World War 2 on WG (White Giant)

Whiteboy,

I need to talk with others on my side. However, I just took moan. That is a total of 4 countries taken; 3 in a row. This is not really a balanced fight, as I'm just clicking away taking C3s at pleasure.

If you can talk the other side into agreeing to a LASTING peace where their will be no insults going in any direction, I'm willing to sit at the table.

I continue to believe that they fight with 0 honor. They launched a surprise attack, with no provication, using C3s while hiding in war protection themselves.

I would have gladly agreed to fight 1 v 1 with either brutus or ec; but instead they did a sneak attack hiding in war protection.

I have a few reasonable conditions:

1. The 4 people who attacked me agree to close down all the C3s they set-up and move out of my area.

2. The 2 countries that were taken from me: Charity and Courage, are to be deregistered, sold, or given to a nonthreatening player.

3. The 4 players attacking agree to consider whatever score they have with me or anyone in the war settled.

4. The 4 players agree not attack any SNAPP member for a period of 1 real life year.

5. The 4 people attacking me admit defeat.

I think this is reasonable. Frankly, I could continue indefinatly taking c3 after c3. However, it is boring.

Since you have shared with EC your displeasure in his actions, I appologize for lumping you in with him.

Facing the reality that the 4 are in war protection and all continued war means is never ending fighting of C3s, peace with worth considering.

That said, I retain my opinion that they did not fight with honor.

Chrysostom - I appreciate your perspective, however I think you guys should directly negotiate any terms, it will make the process much easier and is more likely to result in something reasonable for both sides. Once there is an agreement, as I said, I will do everything in my power to make sure said agreement is honored to the fullest.

I would strongly suggest negotiating via private msgs, not the forums as it is much easier to be honest and direct and far less likely to be interfered with by other players or that one of the players involved in the negotiations becomes offended by any of the requested terms. If you have a private forum that you share with your mates and you'd like them to be able to see what is being said then it would be much better to post it there than have it be public in this echo chamber.

As far as fighting with honor, as I said, I don't know the full backstory of how this all went down so I won't make such a judgment. I think that the issue should have been resolved in a different way and that is as much as I will say on the matter other than that I know these guys, you may consider specific actions or choices not honorable, but they are all very honorable people and very great players. These are great players to have as friends and I think you should consider getting to know some or all of them during and after any negotiations that take place. It is easy to judge someone from the outside when you do not know their perspective or anything about them, but those judgments are most often inaccurate. We all make them but I think we all know they aren't fair most of the time.

WB, I have slightly less than 1 quadrillion in cash, and more than 120K precision bombers.

I can stuff another country with 20K and 20 trillion in you'll come out of protection.

Your brother sounds like you, you think you are good because you took a country with a ready made account(although your 'brother' is you; you cant even type differently). Here's what is funny you both think your good becuase you get an account and use it, big whoop. I made my account. How about you. WB you gathered a few assets on LU, are you afraid to risk them, becuase of lil old me? I mean comon I let your brother beat me.

I'd rather see your 'brother' have his own account and fight, but we all know your brother is your imagination.

Are you still in wp? Yes. I told you back when you were jumping up and down that as soon as I make HOF I would fight you. What do you do? You and a bunch of your weak arse fed start hostile bidding my ceo to sabotage my levels hoping to stop me from getting HOF.

What are the odds that the very day I hit HOF, your whole fed sits in WP and has since then? Obviously it is you dodging a fight you were acting like you wanted so much.

And what have you done since then? Nothing but what you have done since you came into the game. Fight from other peoples accounts and think you are hot stuff. So are you like 15 years old? Your little brother(lmao) lives with you and not his parents? Just man up and say you logged into EO's account. Its about all you've been good for since you first logged into yankees account. Ever since then all you've done is run your mouth. But now you are hiding in wp. I will wait for you to drop WP. The longer you wait the better for me.

Now do you want to make anymore excuses fairy? Or will you drop wp already so we can get your pitiful existence over with.

Whiteboy,

I was in WGC with Brutus and EC for a year. While EC was allied with me he planned to attack me. He is not honorable.

I will not negotiate privatly with people who sneak attack trying to gang up 4v1 while hiding in war protection.

They have not even admitted that they were dishonorable in their attack; nor that they are losing badly.

Main reason I never privately make deals they will twist up everything to try and make themselves look good.

Common sense thing to is they only want to play peace for a chance to come back and do it again. Like a broken record seems to repeat over and over.

Maybe he thinks I didn't let him take the country becuase "EO he never liked you" has an active war. See Whiteboy, I dictate when and how we will fight. You can take all the countries you want. I want more interceptors get them ready.

Tom Willard

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post

In the past days we had some incidents with wars fought by a group of people from one account.
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There are some problems and possible solutions:
Accounts can currently be used to wage war by two or more players, from different IP numbers that are far apart, in different cities, or countries. They can arrange fighting to continue around the clock while the defender is unable to be available and fight back. This is unfair and should obviously stop immediately.
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The simcountry site has all the login data from day one and we know which IP numbers are being used for every account.
We are now considering this practice a multi playing.
As of today, we will check accounts and will act where this is used.

To start with, we will just check several accounts from time to time and if we find multiple IP numbers, we will block the account. In time, we will automate this process.

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WB ask yourself where you or EO would be if they enforced this rule. You just admitted you are logging on to his account, so there isn't even a need to check. I know I know blah blah your brother yada yada ....

Its your IP logging into his account. Thx for admitting it.

w3c can we enforce at least some of the rules here? Maybe then Whiteboy will log into his own account if he wants to fight.

I calculated it out. The 2 countries that were taken from me: Charity and Courage.

Charity has a net asset value about -84 trillion. about 10 trillion in military assets. Population of 53 million, so you can sell 33 million. at 4 gold coins per sale, that's 133 gold coins. At 400b per gold coin, the debt is worth about 210 gold coins. You LOST about 77 gold coins in taking that country.

Courage as a negative asset value of about -38T. Military assets are truely minimal. Population 49 million. Let's say you sold population down to 20 million, that's 29 million pop sold for 4 gold coins each. 124 gold coins. The 38 trillion debt, using an exchange rate of 400b per gold coin is worth 95 gold coins. Your raid wins are about 30 gold coins.

Total winnings from gaining the countries -47 gold coins. NOT COUNTING THE COST OF ATTACKING ME.

What you folks fail to realize is that I have plans B, C, D, and E to make attacking me unprofitable for any raider.

SINCE the war has started, my direct trading account has INCREASED by over 500T from what it started from when war was declared. My gold coins are essentially the same.

About 200T was a payment that I took from the people who raided my countries (thanks), about 300T was moved by me stripping.

I've spent 80% of my time, not fighting the war, but stripping and setting some econ traps.

Am I gaining from the war: no. Are you 4 gaining: no.

All that is going on is destruction and wealth lost by everyone.

You 4, however, have further lost any honor you may have had by your hidding in war protection and your sneak attack. You also lost any image you may have had that you knew how to fight. You've proven unable to fight as people expected.

Chrysostom, you calculated wrong.

Although it does not show up immediately you actually took all the debt in both countries.

Only 2 Trillion in debt is actually kept by the conqueror. The rest of the debt will show up on your books month by month until it has equalized.

This was a fix a long time ago that nuetralized to things,

1. Debt bombing an attacker by loading up a country with debt, then letting the attacker absord said debt.
2. On the other side, it shows up slowly and not right away so that the debt you bring to your main because of conquering doesn't immediately show up and possibly vault you to the threshold of automatic closing of your main. In this case you would have defaulted to your loans and lost your main with the combined debt of those two countries.

Just something to keep in mind.

Wendy, I calculated correctly. I used a method different from the normal one. One you don't know.

my neighbors suck has fallen. That is now 5 countries taken from the bullies. 2 lost. 4 in a row taken.

Oh you mean the other way? LoL, I know that one too. I haven't had the luxury of applying it though, but I am sure I'll get the chance soon lol!

And good job LOL!

Yes :-), the other way. You know Wendy, you are welcome to join fighting in the war at any time. You may find it fun.

I would... but I havea lot on my plate plus I'm waiting for the gms to stop WB from logging into EO's account, and make him fight from his own. You clean up for now I may enter later if there is a later. Keep up the good work. It is about time someone stood up for WG and themselves.

EC just extended war protection again. I put up a security council resolution asking the security council to vote to condemn EC's use of war protection while attacking someone else. I ask security council members to vote for that. Namely, to insist EC either leaves war protection or makes peace.

On the same note, I ask everyone to boycott EC's countries hiding behind war protection. These countries are: If you have not yet done so, please boycott EC's countries hidding in secure mode while he attacks me. The countries are: x2, Epic Chaos, x5, Rapture, Legion, Reaper, Albatross, Cherokee, x4, x3, The Parted Waters, Raven, x1.

It is a miss-use of war protection that someone can do what EC and the other 3 are doing. We need, as a community, to voice our opposition.

Not really you just need to fight. Stop wasting ammo on c3s and wait for him to drop wp.

WP cannot be misused, it is available to any country you have so long as you can put up a coin.

lol chryso, good job!!! now lets find out what plan b is!!!

Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 09:35 pm
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Not really you just need to fight. Stop wasting ammo on c3s and wait for him to drop wp.

WP cannot be misused, it is available to any country you have so long as you can put up a coin.
Sound familiar windbag?Kinda like fightin you?

Chryso you are failing to realize(like windbag) that you are taking worthless c3s, and they mean nothing. They are fighting like windbag, good countries in wp and fight from worthless c3s.

Keto you are still pointing the finger and spamming, just drop wp and fight or leave her alone. You look like a bigger coward because if you drop wp no one but her will attack you, but if she drops you and your friends will attack her. Wendy perfected a strategy to control you and demoralize you and strip you of your imaginary powder and all you can do is call names and act like less of a man with your foul mouth. You and you goons have met their match in Wendy so fess up and let everyone know that the reason you are in wp with your fed is because you know she will own you worse like she did the first time. Wendy is stronger than you guys in mind and spirit that is why you all stoop to new lows just to spread hate and act like unthinkable people calling her a B word over a stupid game and you wonder why no one will speak up for gamemaster to change things because you deserve the ass whooping she is going to do to you if you and your fed come out of wp. You wouldn't have to fight any c3s or Wendy if you learn to mind your manners like I hope you mom told you. If I were your mom I would be ashamed you all need to grow up. at least a little

Olivia oracia has fallen. 6 down.

Keto, you fail to realize that all they've left me to attack are their pure war countries. One had 17 million population and 0 corporations. These c3 countries have full offense, full defense, and no econ.

It is completely unfair that they can attack without exposing their econ. If they were out of war protection, they would have lost 6 real countries.

In the meantime you have taken 6 countries... you're a winner chrysostom ;)

wow, hordo, i wish i had the time to show you why people are complaining about c3 warfare... after all that

chryso, are you really going to brag about every c3 you take? seriously, this could have already been over, like yesterday, but you wont let it go, give it up already

Orbiter, seriousily, this could have never started.

You want peace- ask for it. I've not gotten a single message from any of you asking for peace, nor a single post on this board.

Chryso...congrats on the great war. I seriously overestimated your all mighty war prowess. I have been humbled by you and your greatness. Who else could take 6 C3's in only 3 short days? What an accomplishment.

White Giant...there is a new world power on the planet. His name is Chrysostom. C3's around the globe are already trembling in fear. Not only will he completely destroy them....but in the process he will boycott them and request that NO C3 ever, will have war protection again.

Wow...he's like a knight in shining armor. I can see it now...posters on young boys walls with Chrysostom the Great taking down the dark evil C3's of White Giant.

Take a moment....and witness his glory....forever will he be known as The Great C3 Slayer!

Take a bow...we are humbled by your aura and presence.