The Case for the NULO (Golden Rainbow)

"The Chairmen of the fed would be held accountable, and would face being expelled out as chairman of that fed"

Reason number one that SNA will never support this.

SNA is an independent federation that respects the sovereignty of our members. We are controlled by our members, and not any foreign entity.

That statement is a major stumbling block if you actually believe in this idea.


New players who are interested in joining a respectable federation should visit:
http://web.mac.com/mburckhalter/iWeb/SevenNationArmy/Home.html

Sorry King; you don't have my support. Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are pushing this so hard with no motives but the most altruistic, at best it's incredibly naive. I would absolutely oppose any attempt to get VS or its subsidiaries to join any "world governing body", not that I think there's any danger of that ... and without the support of the largest fed on the world, good luck with governing it.

I mean - whats going to happen if you decide to remove Laguna from the chairmanship of VS King? I will tell you it wont happen - you would find decs on you from everyone in Valde dude.....

The same would probably go for SNA too, so without the 2 biggest feds on LU to support you - how will you cope militarily?

I guess I still don't see how this works. Let's use an example.

The Elite party could be made up of people from your Fed King H.
The Inner party could be made up of SNA members.
The Outer party could be made up of VS members.

What governmental mechanism stops the VS members of the Outer party from banding together with the SNA members of the Inner party and then overthrowing the Elite members? The Elites cannot dec without approval from the Inners which would not happen.

It would be a coup from within. Any large Fed could do it alone and dismantle the entire system, or reorganize it to their own gain. SNA probably has enough members to do it now and VS certainly does.

I think it is an interesting idea; I just don't find it practical or that it has any way to enforce the policies it votes upon. It seems to rely upon the good faith of the presidents of the world. One needs only to read the forums here to see why that would not work too well.
Surely, you King H, can know why it would not work to simply accept that every one will act in good faith for the betterment of everyone else.

Zentrino,

That is an interesting idea. Indeed, the current SNA and/or VS membership could join and take control of the NLUO.

King,

How would the world go about joining the NLUO, proposing that it be dismantled and voting for that proposition?



J/K

If I may speak, I would like to point out that VS does not interfere with how its members run their countries. We are here to help and to be a deterrent if someone were to seek hostile action against you. I have been with Valde for almost a year now, same with Elaieva and Xaldin. I think I can speak for both of them when I say that not once have we been told how to run our country or how to act. We are free to do as we choose as long as we realize there may be consequences to our actions. We are free. If we need help all we have to do is ask and ask anyone and they will respond with possible solutions to your problem then you just have to sort out which one works best for you and/or your country.

If VS, SNA, LDI were all part of this or even half part of it, and I decided to go rogue one day and declare on someone outside of your circle of power. You would kick me out and try to kill me, but you would be hard pressed finding presidents within SNA, VS and LDI that would come to your rescue to kill me off. lol I could probably even rally enough support to climb to the top and then pull in enough votes to collapse it in upon itself.

With that being said I hope you realize that what you have as of now is severely flawed and needs completely reworked. The best way to do that would be to scrap this concept and talk to the community about what they would be willing to accept.


With Regads,
Dragoon

None of you see the vision. It will grow, and we will go from there.

OKStateguy:

Heze answered your question above. You put SNA members into all the vacant seats of the outer party. Then wait for each term of inner-party members to end at which point you vote your members into the inner-party. Then as each elite party term ends you replace them too. Moving into an elite seat could be as quick as 4 real days if you count the first election as 0. The last elite party member's term would take at most 10 days. So you have to hold a global LU majority for 2 real weeks.

If 12 of your fed members take the time to gain control of the elite party, dismantling it would be rash. The "think takes" (I assume he meant tanks) would be controlled by your federation's party so dismantling could be your thought. Modifying the election process would be a better idea.

Taxes and conscription would be even better. Keep all the NLUO funds in your fed's "secure locations" and use it to build up the strategic reserve forces. Have the world's conscript army fight off the insurgent-former-elites.

King Hezekiah,
I see the vision. If you need a secure website where we can hold secret ballot elections let me know.

If it wasn't so time consuming I would consider doing it just for fun. If enough presidents organized they could quickly tear down the NLUO from the inside.

What would this group be called? "The Conspirators" or "The Little Upsilon Resistance!"

Something to consider at least.

The Terrorists????? ;)

Ok after reading through MOST of the Responses.
Hezzy,
Prehaps you might get further by suggesting something along the Lines of -the Elite Party members would be majorly comprised of the (Elected) Head of the major FEDS.These Party seats might be Elected for a 2-3 month period of time, then maybe offer the lesser Feds a seat also if not enough seats in the Elite then fill the next level.. then the NLUO would have a system of gorvenment that represented the people
the LITTLE guy could take his complaint to the HEAD of the FED he was in and the HEAD could take it to the TOP and maybe a solution could be found.
something along these lines should offer some compromise to those who might be open to the idea.
then again you would have those who just didn't WANT any changes at all.
Regardless,
If Hezzy wants to have a FED and try to grow it somewhat peacfully i think he should have the REAL chance to grow it without someone DCing his ASS just because they can't stand the thought of him having a FED.

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I dropped some acid in the early 80's and I had a vision...Does that count?

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Almost. Acid does not grow. Some types of fungi and cacti would.

Why are we all taking about ways to destroy the system? Why are we not talking about ways we can enhance the system? I think what the current world government has is good, but it needs to be more transparent, where everyone can see, that is why we can up with the idea for a site for the world government People can touch it taste it feel it. A government based on what someone says yields what we have today.. Nations able to dec other nations with no real accountability. Mostly because people get bored. But if they had a plce to direct that borom, or that unrest because of a nation unfairly decing them or their fed...

That is the purpose of the NLUO. An Organizational alliance between all nations on wax... or on paper for people who don't kniow what wax means.

SOrry for the bad grammar.
I hoped you had a chance to check out the NLUO updates

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The idea is flawed and unworkable...all attempts to convey this pertinant information to you have failed. Thus destroying it is the next logical step and full of lulz.

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So we should ask permission before we fight other presidents? And who would be in charge of deciding this? You?

King this is a game.

Lets keep it a fun game.

go to the site

www.newlittleupsilonorder.webs.com

Go there it will tell you who will decide. I have put everything I could to explain.. If you can'y undersatnd it, you must not want to try it, and if that is the case, why are you even posting..

That is for all desenters....

King Hezekiah E-United Israelite Empire

"It's the King that they love to hate"

If you disagree, there is no reason to post, but if you agree, or are interested then post your concerns.. But if you are going to be a closed mind desenter, your posts are as good as propaganda on this thread.

Your site lacks punctuation and all you have done is password protect the "terrorists" page.

The official policy of the Fed is password protected so it answers none of my questions.

If I disagree I have every right to post. You claim some rule over my gameplay? Isn't that the whole point of this?

Sufficed to say I hear the drums of war....

No one is ruling over your game play...

With your tone there mr Ok State Guy, I would thin you are threatening me, and if it is a promise then you are ruling over my game play. I just have not gone to either of the sites to update or delete. I will do it at my own pace, and if you can not agree with that, then you have a problem with yourself... By the way OK State Guy, I hope your mind does not interpret this as hostile post..

Why are people deleteing posts? That is unfair for the moderators to be take posts from threads, and delete them or move them

Stop delteing posts and moving them around. That is not fair or cool. I will report you to the game masters...