STOP KILLING THE CHILDREN (Kebir Blue)

@Christos

Probably none :P

Orbiter. The Jews are not the problem. Its the Zionists. The Jews understand the meaning of respect for thy neighbours and all peace on Earth. The Jews did not care where they were settled to create a home Land. It was the Zionists that want to re-claim Jerusalem and open up a 4000 year old wound. It was the Zionists who flooded Palestine with Jews and launching attacks on the British who tried to stop them creating this war. Please Orbiter understand who is the enemy.

LB U said 'I suppose Israel should just sit idly by while rockets are flung into their territory?' LB its not their territory. They illegally occupy it and take more illegally every day. Leaving children homeless or some weeks dead.

The Zionists need this war so they can full fill the words of a book written thousands of years ago and which does not have relevance today other than the End of Days....Which they have hijacked to suit their own cause...totally ignoring the true meaning of End of Days and that is the beginning of the new Age of Aquarius. The re-birth of the humans conciseness. Not the re-birth of a physical entity in the form of the chosen ones which comes after war.

They are crazy. Don't let yourself be fooled for this is one of those things you will have to deal with on your judgement day. For we are the Guardians of the Children and to know children were dying by the hands of Evil and not do anything about it will come back to bite u.

Christos. Yes mate. I spend 3 weeks fighting for Mother Nature in the Old City of Jerusalem. I saw first hand the intimidation/segregation and the human tragedy caused by the hands of the Zionist.

nix, for a person that advocates economic changes that would result in the starvation death of Billions, i find your sympathy toward a specific subgroup, opportunistic

@ Presidium: Ah, so Israel created Hamas so they could have targets to shoot at, and they keep funding Hamas so the y can have an enemy to rail at and rally against? This sounds just like one of my 'conspiracy theories', but you, apparently, actually believe it. That's like Don King setting up both fighters to take the fall at the same time in the same match. Oh, wait, he did that already. Bad analolgy, It's like you starting up a private muilitia, funding their weapons and training, then telling them, "Go and attack my family and friends, and myself". Utter nonsense. I'd have used this scenario in one of my "conspiracies", but I thot it too far fetched at the time.

geez really still on this for American basically a proxy war for us hammas is consider a terriost group isreal doing the fighting we stand back and watch and give aid when needed give a lil aid palinsteanian 'oh poor people' but behind the scenes they house hammas so uh yeah Americans looks like by standers and we eliminate a threat without harm to our people and weve done in a few situations for example Libya their government hated on us we called them dictators gave their civiallian weapons let them do the fighting they destroy the 'dictatorship' we win no more Libya government good movie to watch lord of war at the end a enemy is and enemy of someones of an allie that would benefit if they was busy fighting someone else a little off but in the same scenario . is it ruthless yeah is it smart? very smart if your a head of a country am I American ? yeah and do I get it? yeah I get it

Orbiter. WTF are U talking about? Getting rid of the opportunistic capitalists would result in Billions being fed. I just think U have realised U have nothing to add to this conversation so U resort to lame distraction LOL

Maclean bro check this out....

Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation. Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".

Scorpio....I think I get what your saying but I'm not too sure.....USA funds the rebels in Syria who send arms to ISIS to fight the Iraqi Government who is also funded by the USA LOL...Its not the USA doing this its the Zionists. Like in the American civil war. One Rothschild brother funded the British while another Rothschild brother funded the other-side LOL the list goes on...even Russia and Germany LOL Those sneaky Zionist S-O-B's

your right there nix sorry was having trouble explaining it had a little to much to drink last nite and I got all keyboard happy about the isis that's exactly right kinda screwed our self in the end lol

nix, we've been thru this before, and all i got from you was endless rhetoric,

capitalism, socialism, the problem is greed, not a system

capping the worlds oils supply would only result in the starvation deaths, of billions, wars after wars, it just wouldn't happen

its the tiger by the tail thing. we can't let go, or we and our children die, only so many of us can live in caves with EP, and internet.

you advocate such a strong swing that most of us would die, how ever, you choose to show sympathy to one group, that is put out, because another group felt that 6M lost in a few short years was to much.

Ok everyone ignore Orbiter. Orbiter why are you trying to take this thread else where? If U want to talk to me about this then resurrect the thread in which we discussed it. At the moment the biggest threat to my child's life are the Zionists, ISIS, and all the crazy fools who have mixed up the meaning of End of Days mate.....Your last comment is mad. I do not advocate the killing of innocence and children...regardless of who is killing them...If Environmental groups started exterminating children I would rise against them too. So do not insult me like this mate.

You can really feel the change in 5.5 years.

your insulted, so what, you advocate a cave man-ish life style, to "save the planet," the vast majority of people wouldn't survive that. of course you can, segregate your arguments, to look good on each, but when you put them together, its really like you are picking who to care for.

my children aren't at all threatened by these groups you mention. the biggest danger to them, is me loosing my job, the government running out of money to pay their Social Security, (they are on SSI because they are special needs,) and people that would take advantage of children, or any one weaker than them selves. ie, godless persons.

as it was pointed out, its better for me, for this conflict to continue on the other side of the world, as we've seen, these same people absolutely hate my country, and my way of life. and aren't above killing any non-Muslim. because they aren't muslim, even muslims themselves are in danger of these groups, that will shoot missiles, and blame the pay back on their enemy, it is "Machiavellian," politics. that is create a problem, blame it on your enemy, then look good destroying them.

it doesn't matter if they are a small, extreme group, when they are blowing things up.

Hi Laguna

Orbiter.....U do understand that it is yours and my countries who has caused this by not standing up for good and just letting our leaders do bad things. Whether it be environmental, economic or wars. And like show in history...our chickens will/are coming home to roost.

The World has been run into the ground by her Zionist leaders. Soon, if something is not done about it, these Zionist leaders will destroy humanity its self. As you point out, at the moment in your head your biggest threat is not having any money (as 90% of the worlds population) even though the dollar is worthless in reality. Have U ever thought who has created this problem with money? and why the problem exists?

I bet your one of those who blame the ones at the bottom of the ladder....like you do with the Gazans......

I can tell your a busy person and in a ideal world Mothers and Fathers should not concern themselves with whats going on outside of their lives. It should be the males who do not have children to work out who the enemy is and defeat them...

Unfortunately the enemy is very smart...they have distracted the males with games, drugs, women, fast cars and desire to have the next best thing. Thus leaving those who know and who are fighting very short in numbers to the point where Fathers and Mothers are being forced to spend time working out the truth and acting upon it.

Why do you say it is better for you that this conflict to continue on the otherside of the world instead of saying it is better for me this conflict is stopped and the root causes dealt with....ie stopping the USA causing these wars so as to get/keep the militants in the Middle east instead of in the USA. But this strategy is not working...all it is doing is creating the USA 100 million more militants that are no longer under the USA control (as most these militant groups were started and funded by the USA)

Are U going to take the mark of the beast Orbiter?
U know what it is yea?
This micro chip that will be your only way of buying things or going anywhere...and if you cause your Zionist leaders a problem they will just switch it off and thats you toast.
Again you are a parent with more to deal with that the average parent...I do not expect you to have a judgement on such a thing...but as guardians of our children's future its these kind of things that, because most males have been put into their place, so are not stopping it, everyone are gonna have to deal with and put a stop to it.

Orbiter.....U are aware that the UN have made it quite clear that to ensure our children have a Environment to live in and resources to use, the worlds population either has to be reduced by 80% or we all need to go back to being peasant farmers.

So your first comment should not be pointed at me...it should be pointed at the UN and all their professionals who created the report if you don't agree.....come on orbiter resurrect and Environmental thread if you wanna talk....but then again you know the environmental threads already have the information to destroy your arguments ;)

U know one of the saddest things I have seen? (not including Gaza)

Its 10-12-14 year old girls and boys standing up to our leaders and begging and fighting with them to make the changes....Children should be free from the chaos of the Adult world. They should not be having nightmares about the Adults just letting their world be destroyed...let alone committing their lives at such a young age to try and change us....They are children for F's sake......

I think both the Hamas and the Jews are asshats. Hamas fights back the best they can and the Jews take the high ground because they have high tech weopons. If the roles were switched the Jews would be the bad guys like they were when they were fighting the English before they were given a state. I could go on but you guys already know the history. In my opinion Hamas has every right to fight its been there land for a very long time i'd fight anyone that came to my house and told me that it was there land and they had just been gown for a thousand years.

I agree.

Makes sense to me

Also in agreement with Alterd, Supreme, and Khome.

people like to throw around all kinds of things about the "mark of the beast," but usually its scare tactics like anything else

666, god created the world in 6 days, on the seventh he rested, 6 is incomplete, it is no rest. "with the sweat of your brow..."

the 3 6s represent an incomplete soul, incomplete mind, body, and spirit. its "worshiping the creation, instead of the creator," thinking that you don't need god, because you are strong, pretty, popular, or talented, while not realizing that it all comes from god.

and an example of "not being able to buy or sell," you can take a look at the Duck Dynasty thing, the guy supported biblical views on homosexuality, and lost his acting job for it, he got it back, but the point is the same. more and more the world is ostracizing those that hold onto traditional values.

its not an obvious thing, even some one that doubts, would refuse an obvious symbol. although science is good at redefining things, shoot, all science has to do to is to call it a fetus, it justify killing babies

science has become this worlds religion, but things such as you say about 80%, are easily obfuscated, to come out with any results you want. scientist are as bad as the clergy, with having economic or political motives, rather than pure science... their was a time like 25 years ago, they came out with a study that said potatoes where bad for you, it devastated the potato industry, a few years later, their was a new study that reversed the first. even the "low fat diet," is largely being proven as counter productive, but is butting its head against an economy that has been built for 70 years to accommodate faulty science

@Alterd

I agree with you.

Hamas has no place anywhere, they are Terrorists, the Palestinians though are in their land, they need to evict Hamas from their land and sue for peace, negotiate a two state deal with Israel in peace and prosperity. In the end it won't matter, both Palestinians and Jews will live side by side. But until Hamas is gone, that cannot happen.

Thanks guys wasent expecting anyone to agree with me. I figured someone would call me an anti semite or anti Palestinian. This may be over in a couple of generations anyway. Arabs in Israel will be in the majority unless they somehow lose the right to vote they will change things.

Hi Alterd. The Zionists have already begun a sterilizing programme against any non white Jew in Israel so I fear your last comment will not come true.

Orbiter did you not understand what I mean't by the mark of the beast??? Its a micro chip. They are saying that not only will this micro chip become your passport, bank card, ID card but it will also have Neurotransmitters so to control you if you start thinking outside the box. Anyway thats another convo for another time.

Aussi...Why do insist on calling a resistance group terrorists? It was the Zionists that created Hamas to de-stabilise the PLO. Is that the actions of a people who want to live side by side?/ Or actions of a people who want to control?

Its obvious they are actions of ppl who want control. Israel is not going to stop until the whole of Gaza and whats left of Palestine is theirs. They used Hamas to destabilize the PLO and the region so they wouldn't have to agree to a 2 state deal. I fear this will not be over anytime soon.

Hey orbiter just because science doesn't hold it's views on the dietary value of potatoes in stone doesn't mean that the outcomes of its methodology are based on cronyism

The point of science is that out views of the world are always in flux as we experiment and learn more sure ignorant people can zoom in on one study which is irrelevant and lose sight of the big picture but that is not the fault of science

This contrasts with religion which often preaches rigidity of dogma based on old writings..... Which coincidently can also be taken out of context usually with more drastic consequences then a decline in the potato industry

Also it doesn't matter if you call it a baby or a fetus... To me at least my views on the topic of abortion are not reduced to such superficial levels....

Why wouldn't Israel want a two state deal... It seems to me the cost of supporting underdeveloped regions and fighting a war every few years renders having gaza not worth it

IMO, the people of palestine need to seriously think about retreating from gaza, at least
for a few years..

consider asking syria or IS, for temporary asylum to train their fighters & gain better
weapons from their brothers, and maybe by 2018 they can all make a huge push to reclaim
QUDS, and jordan too if they did this i beleive they can really change things for the best.