WAR LEVELS... REBOOTED

OK, started "Public Vote" to end "War Level 0". Feel free to check the vote or the other topic under "Suggestions".

2 voted "No"..to start...then 3 more now...

If you're voting "No", why don't you come and post something as to why.

Current vote: 5 / 5

I am one of the five.

i made it 6 for

i voted for

i voted YES.

Maestro, it's simple. You don't want war, pay for war protection. Players need to stop being such cry babies and pay their dues like everyone else.

Resolution is too extream and FB bias. There are better solutions.

Synicus, the game for years has been played the way as discussed above and was JUST FINE.

I joined this game as its close to real life sim game there is. I think the game should be made and kept to real life as possible, so what about this,

Get rid of the war levels, and just have Game game levels,

Level 0-1, Build up main country, join a FED & common market. and gain a C3 country. (this gives all new players a chance to learn and hopefully invest in the game)

This should make FEDs alot more active.


Level 1-2, Build up a second country (secured if a full member) and gain a 3rd C3, in which is open to attacks from day 1. ( at this stage the player should know how defense works

(all countries apart from the main should be open for attacks if the Federation as been declared WAR on, which should make the Federations alot more active and responsable for there actions in the game)


Yes iam a new player to simcountry, but since ive been playing ive seen new countrys apear but go inactive, so this i think this could bring new players in to the game & become full members etc..

CEO's, benefit from having that main country (always secured# to grow there corps and have a bit of power when it comes to FED's. as they have control on where to build there new corps, so the better the FED (ie: Peacefull etc) the better the growth of the corps

I hope this makes a bit of sense & Sorry for any spelling mistakes in this thread. lol

I have to state that I am really really shocked at how the poll votes are going. I would like to know who is voting NO and why. The game is stagnant, boring. Shakes head. I'm not going to say another word. I'm just really surprised and really disappointed and it really discourages me in wanting to continue to play. This game used to be so much fun. :-(

Let's face it. People have been saying this exact same thing for years, even before it was started. I know that and I didn't even join until a few months ago. If W3C has been listening to this for years and not done anything, what makes you think they'll change now? There are three options. The first is to talk about this and try to get W3C to change their minds. They've shown they won't do that. The second option is to lie down and let them make us their bitches. We've shown that we won't accept that. Which leaves option three. Rebellion. There are sub-categories to that idea. There's hacking. There's spam. I think that the sub-option most likely to succeed would be a boycott. Just stop paying for memberships until they get rid of war levels. And besides, they're stubborn as a republican. Probably think like them to. They're a corporation. Money money money. THEY WILL NOT GIVE IN BECAUSE OF TALKING! THE WAR LEVELS MUST GO, THE TIME IS NOW, AND WE HAVE THE POWER, IN THAT WE CONTROL THE CASH FLOW! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

Like I said extream and FB bias, No's come from other worlds, folks who like it and probably the coder who spent hours on it. New system is likely to stay, your effort would be better spent resolving to improve it, than remove it.

This is what 'Gamemaster' says on the world description page:

"Peaceful playing is not permitted in Fearless Blue but temporary war protection is an option."

https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwPortal&SN_METHOD=loadDocument&miDocument=theworlds

No, it's not "extreme". Giving away free 'War Protection forever' is extreme, and that is basically what "War Level 0" is...regardless of the world, it doesn't matter. As far as "FB bias", that makes no sense...all worlds have "War Level 0" and it's meaningless everywhere. There is no "Game Level 0", or haven't you noticed?

As the 'Gamemaster' says themself, "There is no need."

Remove all war levels u dont have war levels in real life. Eventually those in war levels 0 to 3 once abandoned get absorbed badk into the gm what a waste.

Get rid of them and billy its been a few months if it went years there be a riot

To all players enjoying the war level 0 - 2 really add no weight to the argument by doing so. If you disagree, protest by moving above war 3 or higher and remove war protection. Raiding is not an issue either, you should be able to make your own way in the game. I don't like them and never have but there are many more players and empires on the maps.... And what would be the point of removing war level 0 if not levels 1 and 2 as well? A waste of resources. Again you people need to just play the game as is, because not everyone will be happy with the outcome as with war levels to begin with. Let the gms concentrate on fixing and improving the game, not wasting time removing a single war level while having two other levels that mean basically the same thing for a player at 1 or 2. Just play your game already, what will we demand after they remove war levels.... some kind of protection against vets pwning newbs that led to this kind of addition in the first place.

In my opinion, what needs fixing with war levels is the benefit of added air defense from a player that will never join in the war game. peaceful level players should not be giving material support to active participants in war. This oversight is impractical and vulnerable to abuse. What is to stop me from going to a friends house, opening an account with their information, then saying I am 'logging in to "watch" or "maintain" their account' and throwing up free air defense to support my empire after they suddenly joined my fed and clustered up with my empire?

These two issues are what seriously threatens the war game and both are completely ignored despite the incidents we have had with them recently.

The war game is/has been dead for a while.
I killed it, I shot it between the eyes in cold blood!

LOL!

@ Super: my mistake, I'm new to the game. What is wrong with you people? Everyone says that the war levels suck, and then all we do is sit here and talk about it. The power has always resided with the lower classes because there are more of us than there are of the ruling class. If more people here in the U.S. would realize that, we could take back control of the government. And if more people in this game realized that, then we could FORCE W3C to make the changes. How long do you think that they would be willing to go without getting any money? They'd become desperate! If a majority of the paying members think in the same way, then we, and they, can make it so that they HAVE NO CHOICE.

Still voting? A NO here. I agree with Maestro, upto level 4 then free-for-all.

At the least, FB could be restored to what the game advertises it to be. And all the Maestros and Gothamloki's can locate on OTHER worlds. I really don't think this is alot to ask.

I'm giving it 3 more months. If I don't see any improvement, I'm pulling my money. <----Dissatisfied customer.

I notice some advocating scraping war levels talking up purchasing temp protection. Isn't that the same damn thing, except reserved for rich empires? Some of us would like to get our footing, build our own little worlds, before having them terrorized, destroyed, and taken by large empires, or worse! by moderately experienced players looking for an adventure. Give us at least four levels of "free play."

Lorelei: I'm all for letting FB be a war free-for-all! (I thought it already was.)

I'm going to throw in some comments here just for laughs.

1) I could be way off here, but I am guessing if a vote on war/no war were required upon log in (so every paying player had to vote) the vast majority would vote to have all war features be completely removed from the game.

2) The current war level structure allows players who want to avoid war to avoid it completely, so they should all be happy.

3) I agree that FB should be a war free for all, but some protected time period should be in place to allow players who are new there to get established and get into a fed before they are (ultimately) raped and pillaged.

4) If you just want to pillage, look at KB. I took a quick look around that was not at all comprehensive and saw a number of countries @ war level 3 that were very poorly defended. Hint: If you are on KB @ war level 3 and are not bothering to put up defenses this might be a good time to start buying some.

5) Last, but not least. If you (war inclined layers) really want a war, it shouldn't be that difficult to "arrange" one.

Personally my take is this. I want to get involved in the war game, but a major obstacle for me is that i have been working 6 days a week for the last 4 months. I can log in from work for a few minutes here and there and dink around with SC but for the most part I have to work when I am working. Very hard to play war under those circumstances.

Best SC setup for me is to be able to play econ only on some planets, and maybe play war on FB, knowing that anything I set up there may be taken away from me without me being able to fire a shot while I am at work. In other words, I like the current SC setup, except I do agree that for the most part FB should be a war free for all.

Lorelei wanted reasons, there are mine.

damn!!!! that was well said Gothamloki. you left out the gang bang but i agree with everything you said. keep it up dude.