White Giant Security Council Aid requests (White Giant)

If you are a new player and need Security Council aid to give you a boost, please post the name of your country and details of why you need aid to this thread, so that the Security Council can try to help you.

Hugs and respect

Jo

hey people in the serurity council pls dont give to much money to people who waste there money in weapons and ask for free 3trillion

Learn to spell and maybe I'll consider your advice.

Don't look at me Frank, I voted against it.

Alan, you said on another thread:

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How about giving my neighbor some aid then, he is actually building schools and corps and not military, and he's a brand new player. <!-/Quote-!>

So why didn't you use your post on THIS thread to suggest the SC gives aid to your neighbour, instead of being generally negative? Or would you vote against that as well, because you just don't want other people to get some help?

More importantly, why are you and frank using this thread to discourage new players from applying for aid? It's here to make sure that aid gets to players who could do with it. You seem to prefer that all new players lose out, rather than a new player you don't know gets a boost.

Let's get this thread back on track. The Security Council has aid to give out. No one loses any money by it being granted so, if new players need it, please apply here, or nominate someone else's country that you think could use it.

Hugs and respect

Jo

I was trying to make a point, not actually suggesting you give him aid....

So your reason for posting was to stop anyone getting aid, not to help someone. Pretty much what I thought ...

I can understand people being selfish enough not to want to give away their own money. But not wanting to give away other people's money? Really? Think what that says about you ...

Hugs and respect

Jo

The Security Council has primary responsibility, under the Charter, for the maintenance of international peace and security.

This is not a Capitalist Congress. It's a Security Council.

If ya want help getting out of dept, look up the Federation, Xion Empire.

well, for the few days i have left in the WG SC, i'll put up what proposals i can.

maybe their just might be a lucky snowball

I promise I will consider any proposal on it's merits should it come to general voting. If the country is genuinely trying to build it's economy at least in balance with a reasonably sized army, I would support aid.
I understand Jo S now has an emotional attachment to this particular country stemming from the exchange of messages, thus the unnecessary ad hominem attacks on my character that are unbecoming of a top tier player.

Alan,

I have served on SC many times over and see the granting of sim aid as a boost to new players who need help in building their infrastructure and staying with the game. Granted, as a member and as voters, it is up to us to decide whether the money is given wisely. But as Jo said, the money is there to help NEW players get started.

Furthermore, Jo's post was NOT an attack on your character, per se, only pointing out her opinion that the aid is there to be used and not quite understanding why you have a grievance.

To Frank, the money is given to new players to use as they will. If they choose to use the money unwisely on getting weapons vs. the fortifying of their economies, well so be it. They won't get a chance at monetary aid a second time.

Thanks,
Lorelei

You want to teach new players here

check out
Confederate States of America

the best example of arrogance and poor presidentency on WG... For everyone that knows me im one of the nicest people on SC and to think of this noob made the list... That says alot about him... I vote restating the nukes for noobs program

SSRCP, I don't get what you're trying to say, alan is doing rather well, except education needs to be up a little, health, social security, transport.... But he is in surplus, which is interesting.

Oh how NICE of you SSRCP, lmao.
Lorelei, the Security Council funds are not for this purpose.

What are they for, Synicus?

Hugs and respect

Jo

considering that the players get to create the resolutions, and vote to give the money away, wouldn't that mean that the players have every right to decide what the money is for?

as it is, it is a useless game feature, as the requirements for receiving aid are so strict and lined with catch 22s.

how is sending 5T aid to a player suppose to create international security? seriously? i've been known to spend 20T on military spending a day, for RL months at a time. some how i doubt that 5T in a pinch is going to make some one secure.

so instead of hording useless money for an imaginary phenomena, that not only wont happen, but if it does, many will find a reason not to give the aid, (ie they didn't get any,) why not *TRY* to do something with it

and if giving aid to player means they stay around longer, well that is better for us all.

And WHO are you, Synicus??? The last I checked, funding from the SC was to help new players boost their economies and build their infrastructures. I was speaking in general and not in reference to any specific request. Having said this, anyone we give aid to, do we have control over how they spend it??? Don't tell me what it is or isn't for. I've played this game for years, have served on the SC many times on FB and WG, and have played with players who, I am sure, far surpass your knowledge and skills in the game.

Smiles,
Lorelei

I'm a returning veteran, I just returned to the game a few weeks ago. Technically I am new, in terms of recent playing time. I reached the top 100 in under 2 weeks with no aid whatsoever but then I bought population. I don't see what is the problem? You are basing my experience upon the statistics of a country that I've played for a few weeks when I played many years ago? You don't know me, Mr. SS.

I never claimed to be some great player with lots of wisdom, I just voiced my opinion as we would like to have a right to do.

But you've put me in my place all right, nice job. This was none of your business, yet you go out of your way to find out my country to insult me? What a pathetic soul. I pity you.

For a returning veteran player in the game, Alan, your choice of fedmates leave something to be desired. I'm referring to Thor Gross, a moron who frequents chat to derive a boner of some sorts out of attacking veteran players. He would be wise to stop doing this, and it would be wise of your federation to oversee the conduct of its members......that is, if you dun wish your federation to feel the consequences at some point in this game. I assure you, I never forget an insult. :-)

Anyways, welcome back to the game.

Hmmm, is this a federation war I'm starting to snuff out?

I don't mind, I'm all for profiteering off war

peter powell

united kingdom of tamworth

im trying to get my economy off the ground and a boost would be most helpful, i can take bigger steps in helping my economy as well as attract corps by reducing tax's etc, many thanks if i am successful

peter, this is interesting, you can get by with out the aid, it looks like you've been building econ appropriatly. and you can probably use a little boost to speed things up. but my SC membership just ran out, so i have no choice but to leave it to some one else to make the call. i'm interested in seeing how other players feel about giving you aid. either way, i'll be ok, because like i said, your on the edge, you can use it, but don't really need it.

and alan, lorelei really doesn't forget an insult, trust me on that.

but

"the best example of arrogance and poor presidentency on WG... For everyone that knows me im one of the nicest people on SC and to think of this noob made the list... That says alot about him... I vote restating the nukes for noobs program" -Super

yea, that was probably a low blow, looking over that country, i don't really see a problem. low indexes doesn't mean poor management, its making a decent profit for being fairly new and small country. and as alan said, he increased his pop, and is now trying to get things back to where they are suppose to be. have a heart, jeese

Lorelei, I'm a Member of the Security Council and Chairman of the Xion Empire. The SC funds are for maintaining peace and security. I don't know where you checked but I find no documentation on the funds being for new player aid. Who you have played with, for how long, and your disorder have nothing to do with it.

Synicus

Security Council ---> proposals ---> enter a new proposal.

Choose Topic
Forbid nuclear weapons - no funds needed (and no use)
Forbid nuclear facilities - no funds needed (and no use)
Forbid nuclear attacks - no funds needed (and no use)
Enforce peace treaty - no funds needed (and no use)
Untied development aid - uses Security Council funds.

Entering a proposal is the only thing that members of the Security Council can actually do. A proposal can be started by SC members to give development aid, but the recipients are limited to new players. It may not be documented, but it is the only thing they can be spent on, ergo that's what the funds are for. There is certainly no way of spending them on "maintaining peace and security".

There isn't any documentation on the Security Council other than a general description on the Council homepage, which describes the real life security council much better than the simcountry one, and that seems to be the foundation for your comments.

May I suggest that, as a member of the Security Council, you attempt to spend those funds on something other than aid and make sure it can be done, before you start lecturing those who are familiar with the system on their use and purpose.

Hugs and respect

Jo

I'm all for Peter getting aid, I have nothing against it. But I am semi-opposed to people getting aid because they made mistakes. Yes, we want them to stay in the game, but there are more deserving recipients?

Until the Security Council can actually stop wars and intervene in fights and all that, it will be there just sitting on money. I dunno, maybe have the Security Council as a peacekeeping force, using player's military as peacekeepers, whilst paying for them (sorta like mercenaries).

Or perhaps use the security council funds to pay for goods. So the security council can purchase goods from a country, and later resell it, at an inflated price for aid. Some like the food for oil program (that didn't work out well).