Missing Ammo

The shortages on the market will disappear.
It may take several days.

This is not connected to the other ammunition problem.
we have all the transactions showing repeated use of this bug. This should not have happened.
No one should complain if he used it.

Even after we started the corrections, and answered mails, some tried to sell remaining "stocks".
we will check again in the morning.

This is the final straw for me. I didnt take advantage of any bug.

The countries I took over had too many assests for the GM's liking. I've tried to get a staright answer in emails but no they just fob me off.

My issue in which I have emailed the gms about and resolved was this... My understanding is when I created multiple bomber wings I did not have the default amount of ammo in those units. I did not need or want that amount. For example The pbomber wings I made had a default of about 40,000 bombs per wing, but I only desired 15 or 20,000. But the game in an attempt to raise the ammo level to the default level caused the country to show a negative amount. Hence, the -500,000 p bomb deficit.

However when those units were dismantled the ammo that was in them was returned back to the country stock and when added to the negative amount the total was no longer negative. For me at least, I did not have a loss or gain in the amount of ammo.

As for those that were not assembling wings but were having defensive missile shortages etc... I have no idea about. I can say that my emails were answered quickly and even when I didn't understand the answer exactly at first, I sent another email and we came to the conclusion that I feel is satisfactory and that I have posted here.

Had the same issue as Serp with interceptor wings.
Forming them up with less than default ammo.
The game then raised the ammo to default, which caused the inventory to go negative.

I covered the negative amount....everything became square.

ditto I made wings in poletaris and I got a negative number... something wrong on the GM side..... I feel free go and refunds comming

It seems that Josias has the real question.

Why did the game suddenly decide that units needed default levels of ammo?

If I were to now set my units and garrison ammo levels at say 50%, would my supply units return the excess ammo to country stocks? I think this would be preferable to me personally, to prevent these expensive ammo purchases.

Can we no longer set the ammo level of units/garrisons? Maybe I could dismantle and rebuild all with lower ammo levels. To my mind, having a default level of ammo for any defensive unit doesnt make sense anyway. Int/heli wings and garrisons are only going to get one shot in normally, maybe 2 for some garrisons weakly attacked, so full ammo levels is a waste as it will get destroyed without being used.

What I have found in units is that the game brings a unit that if formed with say 50% of default ammo up to the default level.

If the unit is formed with say 120% of the default level, it will not strip out the excess.

Only checked on interceptor wings, not garrisons.

Units could be formed (and can now) with more ammo than you have and then the ammo is ordered.

This was intended to help when you setup units and reduce the back and forth problem when not enough ammo was available and you needed to order it first.

The function went too far and created a possibility to create ammo out of nowhere.

this was fixed. The numbers can go negative but in reduced numbers and they will be reduced more.

Several players made use of this and repeated the process to create a lot of ammo.

we have created a procedure to fix it and we found (probably nearly ) all the cases. We will find the rest too.

Unfortunately, very much so, we found exactly one case that was not a case at all and corrected it too.

This Gaz who was grossly mistreated.

We have apologized to him and compensated his account.

Yeah, great.

And do you fancy compensating my account for the large amount of debt your sudden unannounced fix created?

You realise that putting me into max debt causes dropped supply index and immediate orders which cost me more and so increase the debt, right? My units never had any problem before. I would sometimes get a newspaper message saying I was low on some ammo somewhere and a look through the army pages I could find the short and order it. Half the problem was that your auto order system didnt work correctly, not ordering some ammo as it should when low flag was reached. You acknowledged this and said you have fixed it. Obviously you hadnt, or the ammo shorts wouldnt have happened. I wouldnt have suddenly had trillions of purchases to make and my empire wouldnt have been financially wrecked again.

I really wish you would own up to your responsibilities.

This morning I got a nice little message thanking me for supporting SC, and would I continue to do so... How do you think that makes me feel?

Crafty,

come on.
you can regulate that yourself, make sure you do not have shortages of ammo.
experienced players know how to handle it and fixing your cash too.

the shortages in the units where there all this time and the units were unusable. these shortages had to be fixed.

Whatever Andy.

The auto buying system should buy ammo when it hits the low water mark. If it doesn't do that, then it's broken. If it does do that then I should never have shortages. Right?

I see messages of units short, I order the ammo needed.

So are you saying I should daily check manually the ammo levels in all my wings, units and garrisons? How else could I make sure I do not have shortages?

I am experienced and I have always managed it for the years I have been here. Until this fix was suddenly introduced. It's not me, it's your auto buying system and your newspaper and your reporting of monthly ammo use that dont work in harmony. But thanks for replying anyway. CC

Is this the problem I am have here: https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/9/21564.html?1359658059 Andy? I did create a couple of units without the full amount of AMMO in stock, built the game was supposed to purchase that afterwards, and I never dismantled anything. Either way, a reply to my post would be appreciated.