The Case for the NULO (Golden Rainbow)

The basic concepts of NLUO could be workable, as you have presented, Wendy. I do agree with some of the concepts myself. I in particular agree about how the SC works should be changed, and that more people should have a say in how things are run on each world.

I'm a big supporter for example, of direct elections to the security council.

I do have concerns though that such an organization could be taken down from within, by those who desire to be hostile to it. Others have expressed multiple ways this could happen, so I won't elaborate there.

And I do agree some Veterans can be hot-heads, and attack for little or no reason or motivation, sometimes toward newer players who may not understand or not get things.

I'm open to more discussion about how such an idea could prove workable. I think some modifications might be necessary for more of the community to be accepting of it as a whole. I'm slowly warming to the broad concept presented here.

Q

Zentrino, I like your ideas.

Q

And Wendy ONCE AGAIN declares war on me.

@Zentrino ,
In another post which i can't seem to locate.
I have suggested something very simular to what you mentioned:The NLUO being comprised of FEDERATION Heads - with that in mind the Elite Party could consist of the Largest Federations Heads of State,Elected representatives which couldn't fill all the seats (like you suggested limit the seating to 2 Per FED in the upper chamber) then fill the rest of the seats in all the chambers with Representatives from the lesser Feds(lesser being a VERY loose term here).... All this would require diplomatic discussion and true open discussion WITH KING HEZZY.
I have been discussing with HEZZY the idea of Starting a FEDERATION called the NLUO FEDERATION.
I have ask him to discuss the matter with ShcyzMattiCa as to the Fact that she is within the elite party along with Me(King HEZZY and the others have made me the Chairman of the Elite Party for the time being.)now ShcyzMattiCa's input isn't the only vital one to presenting the NLUO as a Federation Of FEDERATIONS. once again it should be like that: A federation of Federations; while each Fed member having a vote and discussion option.
Remember this is not a total redirection of concept in the NLUO but a Clarification of the NLUO's desire to exist and to Grow.I know that the WEBsite has Religious overtones but so does EVERY form of Government.
The U.S.A has several... the English Government with the monarcy Beng head of the church of England ... France with it's clut of Reason.. and the list could go on. but that list could lead us astray from the true discussions here.
If one desired to Help form a Federation of Federations Called the NLUO they would have to overlook some of the religious overtones,Just like we overlook the religous overtones of our RL respective Governments.

P.S.
@ WENDY
Please leave WAR as a last resort

I'm done posting in this or any other thread about the NLUO. The poster goes against her own ideals, so I just won't even bother anymore.

Good luck King Hezzy.

Q

q, send me a message, i'll offer you some help

Grayson, I don't want to be the only voice in NLUO,I only wished to help King get his idea heard without being bashed by any and everyone on the forum.


I respect your place in the Elite party. Don't question mine. I am the the Chair of the NLUO ThinkTank,I was just thinking.

I have left War as a last resort. Q seems to like petty tales on the forum. I invited him to a decent convo. he has resulted to childish insults.

Three strikes. . .YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Please refrain from basing rebuttals based purely on personal issues and petty arguments that will ruin this discussion.

He disregarded that part. . .

Q Q Q please. Comon We just redirected this topic. Lets not make it into another. Please.

AND that part . . . .

Q, I said please, I can say it in other ways,I am trying to play nice.

AND that part . . .

So hes out. Orbiter you need more help yourself. You have forgotten that left over c3s can still hurt you. . . or others. HEHE

no, wendy, i haven't

@ShcyzMattiCa,
I have only the same desire to see Hezzy get his CASE heard
I'm his Friend and will remain so even though I'm in another Federation which i have no intention of leaving nor Forsaking.
At the same time i have a duty to my friend to discuss with him ideas and ways to get him heard and to be allowed to Grow his Dream.
ShcyzMattiCa i know your not the wanting to be the only VOICE, but Hezzy is your Friend also and therefore , your voice is one to be respected in regards to the Ideas and aspirations on NLUO.
My Chairmanship is tenitive and i wish to convey that I'm here to try and help him.
Not to damage him or my relations with my own Federation but to attempt to be a type of bridge between them.

Indeed, well said Grayson

Peace be unto you. . .

Here Here!!!

I only wish that we can get the rest of the community behind this, and not mention the other NLUO members who are afraid to come public..

May we bring this thing together..


By the way Wendy, your were re-elected to your seat for another 10 year term...

Yay. . .NLUO RULEZ

All NLUO members: Check the Awards and scores forum here on the simcountry forums to check out the NLUO election news,

They deleted it, check the General forum...

Hezekiah, the reason why they deleted it is because election news does not belong in the Scores and Awards forum.

That forum is specifically for discussion of IN-GAME scores, and level/Hall of Fame awards. i.e. GC awards for being a good player.

Of course off-topic stuff will be deleted from there; that forum serves a very specific purpose of which NLUO is not a part.

Can't you just keep the stuff on your website? If VS, SNA or in its day CIS duplicated a load of stuff on to this forum - it would be full of things that don't bother or interest you, just like most of us aren't bothered or intrested about what is happening inside NLUO. I'm not saying i'm against it NLUO, i'm certainly not 'for' it - i'm just not bothered anymore, and I bet that most of LU feels the same. Yet, we all have to suffer endless threads that should all be on your website for your members who will access the information if they want to know it. That is the whole point of having a website, to post information on there, not to duplicate it wherever and whenever you can.

N> > > L> > > U > > > O

Well I have to agree with Stuart
Keep NLUO business on NLUO web site.
And i am thinking that the case is made let it Live or die .. enough discussion about it for now.
Cut back before you close any doors that might have opened

King, I apologize if I offended you with my comments about religion. I realize my comments could have been taken in a different manner than I intended them to be.

I'm a supporter of freedom of religious views, whatever they are, and should give you the same right.

I'm done posting about the NLUO though. I wish you luck with it. Perserving seems to have attracted new members for you, so maybe more want this than is apparent.

Ok, I'm out, good luck King.

Q

Frankly...now that I have read pretty much the entire thread...I'm pissed off. Is this what all the hostilities towards Q have been about...paradoxically ridiculous. Wendy, you are talking about a world government that is there to protect the new players of SimCountry from the Veterans who impose there whims upon them and attack them without any real warrant.

Q...has not been egregious on this thread, while you nuked several of his countries yesterday. You are the vet that we need protection from and your current actions are not peaceful and way out of line with your message in this thread...Q has not slandered you or King in this thread.

As far as the subject matter of the thread:

There are some good ideas behind the world government in theory, but with power comes corruption as many have pointed out. Like the world banks...if they are too big to fail then they should have never been allowed to get that big.

I think the Federation of Federation Chairs is the best bet and would not require SimCountry to do anything, so…good luck.

I very much doubt I am going to come back to this thread.

So as not to offend anyone that line near the end was suposed to be

I think the Federation of Federation Chairs is the best bet and would not require SimCountry to do anything, so...good luck.

Sorry to say, but what every federation or person does is news to Little Upsilon. The Peace treaties didn't have to be on the forums, neither did the CIS/VS Merge. NLUO can are allowed to continue to post whats going on within their federation on the forums, its up to the people to acknowledge it and reply, or not.

thats the first time i've seen wendy referred to as a vet, thats kinda crazy. lol

am i gonna be attacked for derailing this thread now?

shrug
i couldn't reset, now back to your regularly schedualed program