The Case for the NULO (Golden Rainbow)

OK, Heres what. I'm in the need for some lulz.

I will join.

you cant be serious Stuart youve rejected the idea ever since king first created it.

Indeed Q I take no offence, you havnt recieved any decs today have you?

Im just stating that to make a real change as pertains to your concerns or suggestions, that will be solely upon the shoulders of the NLUO members which in theory, should eventually consist of the LU public.

go to the Elite party chat, the lot of you, and I will take off the security off so we all can talk there.

General X - I need lulz!!!!!

Anyway King - wouldnt it be better in IRC!!!!!!!

I hear what Q is trying to say, and I believe he is being misinterpreted.

Seven Nation Army was formed by several like minded presidents. They together drafted and ratified our Constitution. They even included in our Constitution the ability to both scrap it or simply amend it. They knew that future growth and members would require innovations and changes.

(You can view the SNA Constitution here: http://web.mac.com/mburckhalter/iWeb/SevenNationArmy)

I believe Q is saying that you might get greater support if you opened the process up to the entire community. Why not scrap your original proposal, and invite leaders of the major feds, empires and active new players to a convention to draft a new one.

Allow all of LU to have a say in the construction of the NLUO. This would bring a great deal of knowledge, concerns and ideas to the table. All of which could be learned from, and might lead to a document that could be accepted by all.

Coming from a democratic federation like Seven Nation Army, I believe our many members would demand representation in the drafting of such a world government.

I understand as well, but policies need not be steered by outside infuences, but by the members. When the public joins the NULO it will be adequately represented. And OKSG . . . many of SNA members have or had no say in the drafting of the charter you follow. Am I right? It doesn't mena that they can't or won't as is the case with NLUO.

er......HELLOOOOOO?????????

I wanna join NLUO

Let me in!

Stuart we are both in IRC where are you?

Wendy,

I agree with you to a certain degree. It is fine to provide a solid blueprint, but you are asking the entire world community to accept this. I doubt that will ever happen unless they get a say from the beginning. I am trying to respond seriously.

As for Seven Nation Army, I was not a member of SimCountry when it was founded just a few short months ago. So no, I did not take part in the drafting of the Constitution. However, many people did take part and the symphony of their united voices created a very well thought document that serves us incredibly well.

Our members have the option to adjust it, or create a new one.

I am simply suggesting that you take your general idea, and open it up to greater input. The current effort is not working, and I doubt, as it stands now, will ever be accepted.

So if this is a true goal that you both wish to see accomplished, I think it would be best to begin a global convention to create a government. We should all have a say in the development of such an organization. Otherwise, do you really think this is going to happen?

(I do not have IRC)

OksG you are just repeating youself while ignoring what is required for anyone affect things in NLUO, you need be a member.

Wendy,

You are proposing a world government. Am I not a member of the world?

I am not proposing anything, I am supporting an idea. Yes you are a part of the world, but not apart of NLUO. May I count you in?

First Off Wendy, I would like to thank you for answering my previous question in the manner that you did.

Next.
Somewhere in here I read something along the lines that, if members went to war you would go to vote on what action to take. Now I have 2 scenarios I would like you to explain how the NLUO would react to.

1. An NLUO member against a non NLUO member NLUO declared.

2. 2 non NLUO members.


Last.
I would like to know how you plan to stop any abuse of power within NLUO that you claim the bigger feds abuse.


With Regards,
Jack Frost

No. Like the rest of Little Upsilon, I haven't had a say, or even representation, in the proposals drafting. I also can't see how many others have had much say. That is my biggest problem with this. Nobody else was included in its creation.

If you two would like to open up a dialog with myself, and include a large portion of the LU community, I would be willing to work on something truly global. For it to be global you would have to be willing to remove all religious symbolism from the organization.

As of now this only represents the thoughts, ideas and beliefs of one person. I'm not saying that the general idea does not have merit, but it doesn't reflect the entire world.

If Little Upsilon was to ever establish a world government than everyone should have the opportunity to be a part of its development. Until then I can't even consider joining.


I think I might take it upon myself to work with others to draft an outline for a general LU document. Something similar to the South African Freedom Charter, the American Declaration of Independence, or the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen.

I would not know how the community would respond to such action, therefore the answer is still undefined as I dont represent everyones vote, only my own.

@ oksg

I am not proposing anything, I am supporting an idea. Yes you are a part of the world, but not apart of NLUO. May I count you in?

Wendy,

I appreciate your position. My answer to that question is directly above.

With out say or representation in the initial development of such a world government, and having seen what has been proposed, I can not join.

But I am not closing the door to dialog, simply proposing a way to actually accomplish this goal.

Dialougue is acceptable, debate even, but for actual porposals for adjusments, that would have to come from within. Thx.

Well... Then this isn't truly a 'global' organization.

I am trying to offer a way for it to become just that. A way for it to represent everyone and all their ideas.

Now that would be something special.

We dont need an offer, it is already what it is, if you join fine. We don't need permission from you to be allowed to do it. Thx.

Wendy.

You can not accomplish a world government without everyone. That is the problem.

100, 200 or even 300 players will never be able to govern the world. All must be represented or it is a fraud.

I will not join because the world is not involved.

Thats fine oksg, however many we have or don't its a start and . . . we'll manage.

Listen, if all who are interested would join we can iron out differences later. register, and put what country you are from. Then we will add your country, and you will recieve updates.

What is wrong with the way things are?

A n00b...You... talked smack on the forums, were slapped down for it and have been attacking everyone for 7 months. The only reason you survive is secured mode. Don't give us the poor little Wendy spiel please.

Don't like the situation seek and end to it. Some n00b Federation is not going to change the resentment felt by me or anyone else towards you.

All you are doing is adding targets for extermination.