L.U.N.A.T.I.C (Golden Rainbow)

So are you apart of Lunatic, and not apart of the NLUO King Grayson301. You can't sit on the fence..
Stuart is setting the stage for a Propaganda war.. You must pick, and choose wisely...

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Theres your answer.

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Which is already won. We are less than 24 hours old - but have more members, more power and more influence than NLUO has got in 5 RL months

JOIN L.U,N.A.T.I.C and help us free LU of spam and tyranny.

Votes for the few?
Secret policies?
A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security?
A world government run by n00bs?

Is that what you want?

NO

Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN.

STAND UP FOR FREEDOM

STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C

L.U.N.A.T.I.C - Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications.

I kinda feel like Humpty Dumpty here,Sitting on the wall.
@ Hezzy ,
why can't I sit on the Wall ,After the discussion I had with Stuart He is ok with me sitting on the Wall supporting Luniatic and NLUO as a Federation.
@ Hezzy,
I consider you a friend BUT don't push for me to get off the Wall.I also consider Stuart a friend

LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military.

LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU.

JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!!

LOL @ Grayson.

I wouldn't worry about Hezy's threats - I get them all the time, and he obviously lacks the ability to back them up.

Besides, an attack on toontown, or toonville, is an attack on Seven Nation Army.


@ Hezy... this is how I see it:

"I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

I would like to suggest LUNATIC elects a Grand Clown for Little Upsilon!

Who is the worst of the worst? Who has no clue how to play the game? Who does nothing but spam the forum?

My money is on the King Clown himself! King Hezekiah!

@Okstate, LOL, I love ya brother!

"The idea behind the forming of LUNATIC was to unite against NLUO, its spam...etc"

Don't you realize that a troll's no.1 priority is attention, because they tend to side with controversial subject is because more people are going to disagree with them, this giving them more attention. Promoting this "cause" is only exasperating the problem.

Yes, I understand that but I and many others tried to ignore NLUO's spam - and we did. Untill he set up a thread or in some cases multiple threads in EVERY forum on here.

I can't be bothered to waste my ammo on taking the C3's they have, so were doing it politically instead. I'm simply pointing out obvious truths to which he seems blind.

I even named LUNATIC after him then found an acronym to fit it!!!

Votes for the few?
Secret policies?
A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security?
A world government run by n00bs?

Is that what you want?

NO

Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN.

STAND UP FOR FREEDOM

STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C

LOL -

Stuart ignored Hezy? WHEN! LOL


Seriously...


This guy has been spamming for five months. Frankly it is one of the most annoying aspects of this game. I don't mind a bad guy, but a clown who is incapable of playing the game shouldn't be allowed to post fifty times a day.

I'm personally disappointed that the "game" hasn't dealt with this. I'm finding myself increasingly put off by the game due to that fact. It would be nice if we could play this game in peace, and not have to deal with trolls like Hezy.

If someone posts racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist and sectarian messages on this forum. They should one, be banned from the forum for a certain time period, and two, be banned from the game entirely if they persist.

I believe if/when I abandon SimCountry - it will be for the fact that the forum is filled with disgusting posts from King Hezy or some other clown.

Forums should be a place for 'responsible' free speech. Not rambling spam.

Take for instance the word 'terrorist.' Can you imagine, in this day and age, calling someone this word at work, at home or in your community? Yet Hezy does this daily here, and it is allowed and tolerated.

People like Hezy make me sick. Thankfully our general society no longer tolerates the intolerant.

in this case, the word "terrorist," is being used as "commie," or "witch," in the past, its easy to give some one an ambiguous label, that could mean anything, and denounce them for that.

i mean the prime example of "terrorist" in sc is wendy, who is a respect leader of the NLUO??? this is bizzar. but stu, who simply doesn't want to be slandered, is public enemy #1???

i guess lunatic is perfect, for todays sc current events

The word "terrorist", the word "strategist", and the word "tactician" are morally equivalent. Any of them could be entirely appropriate label to give someone who is play a war game.

The definition of a "terrorist" changes rapidly. Major changes in the American English meaning usually occur every time the United States gets a new secretary of state. Former secretary of state Madeline Albright gave this definition in an interview "terrorists are militant people or groups that are not part of a government". Since Stuart was using military force and is clearly not part of Hezy's government Albright's definition fits quite well. The game is set up with Stuart as the president and government of a small empire. That could disqualify Albright's definition. However, Hezy either does not understand or refuses to acknowledge the game mechanics. Hezy's use of the word terrorist to describe Stuart is consistent and appropriate given Hezy's view of the situation. Moreover, Stuart should not be offended by the term.

but that is a bit one sided...which is the problem here

to state some one who is militant and not a part of a government, is a terrorist... ok, but the use of the word, implies much more... it implies some one that causes destruction, with the intent of overthrowing a foreign power... with a callus disregard to that powers sovereignty, and human rights. Taking on a moral high ground, that allows for any malicious actions, commonly, but not entirely based on differences of religion.

another instance of a word commonly misused, is "hypocrite," which mean actor, but is used to describe some one that applies a double standard. by that, i could say that king hez, is a hypocrite...by endorsing wendy's never ending war against *every one* but condemning stu for holding king to his own promises

"The word "terrorist", the word "strategist", and the word "tactician" are morally equivalent."

Are you serious? That's a big step towards moral relativism.


Hez uses words like "terrorist" because he isn't creative enough to garnish support otherwise. This is a game, so he's well within his bounds to denunciate his enemies. If this were on a more personal level then his actions would be more of a fool or ignoramus.

BC

I'm here!!!!!

Now my say. I do not like being called a terrorist on this game for the simple fact it is an outragous lie.

I have offered King peace on many occassions. I have kept to my side of the agreement but he didn't. He created a new terrorist website within days of a peace agreement, therefore going against the terms. He still has a fleet by Etruria which has also invalidated the terms but I have chose to ignore that fact since it was from his main and cannot attack me. If I created a fleet in my main and moved it to his coast - that would be posted all over the forums in a flash. He said he would stop the spam - he hasnt, going against not only my terms, but the terms of OKstate guy too.

As you can see - King is a two faced liar who cannot be trusted.

Now Wendy. Wendy and I signed a peace agreement in November. I thought that would be the end of it, but no. For 2 months I ignored her constant baiting and veiled threats untill a couple of weeks ago. I told her I was not going to put up with her behaviour towards me any longer and to stop it or I would stop it. Her response was not in writing, but a series of sneak attacks followed by a declaration of war. Not so bad you may think - she has nothing to fight with anyway - untill I tell you that she decd on Orbiter after sneaking him for hours. Not me - shes too scared to dec on me i think, so she has to dec on my fedmates instead.

These 2 are the biggest spamming, ignorant and down right lying, two faced people I have ever had the courtesy to meet either over the internet or in RL.

I am not a terrorist so dislike being called one, just as if I called Orbiter a nobhead (yes - im being polite, or trying to at least!) he probably wouldnt like that either.

It is a tag that I have done nothing to deserve, and for the record I only ever declared on King once he refused to listen to me after 2 RL MONTHS of asking the same thing. A terrorist would have been in there straight away.

So - what do I do? Do I go into a war with a bunch of C3's and waste my ammo, or do I find another way to get my point accross? Diplomacy is out of the window - I don't trust either of them as far as I can throw them. So what am I to do? This. LUNATIC. I will defeat them politically. I'm sure you will agree that a terrorist would not do that

Anyway - rant over. Sorry for the lack of any punctuation or any spelling mistakes, or if I appear slightly incoherrant - I have now been awake for almost 48 hours due to RL workload, so thats my excuse!!!

Peace and profits to all.

JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!

Oh my. Diplomacy. Yawn. I say let the fun begin.

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@Zentrino,
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you used my line only a little differently.
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lol

BorderC,

It is not moral relativism. You could easily make the case that strategic warfare is much worse than terrorism. During the bombing of Dresden in WWII non-combatants fled to the riverbank to avoid burning to death. The fighter planes escorting the bombers dropped out of formation and strafed the riverbanks. I'm not trying to point fingers at the U.S. The Germans are guilty of a lot strategic activity too. If you try to kill all of the enemy it is not a terrorist attack it is a strategic attack.

Genocide is also not terrorism. The survivors and victims may be terrified. You can say it is terrible. But that does not make it terrorism.

Rape and murder gives an example were an event can be one or the other and both only in a sequence. Saying that a specific gunshot victim was not raped is not condoning shooting people. Stating that a rape victim was not murdered and that the rapist is not a murder does not mean that you are condoning rape.

In another thread there was a discussion about how to kill off all the old people. Someone wanted W3C to add a euthanasia button. When the victims are electronic Sim-people real world ethics don't always apply. Pillaging a Sim-country is not the same as real world pillaging. In a war game the label "terrorist" does not need to be taken as an insult.

I did not know that my presense on this world garnered so much hate and hostility.. This is a great conversation, except for Stuart reoccuring spam through the thread.. I am glad to see everyone diplomatically, and intellectually looking at this issue, in which Stuart and I created... Then tagged along by Ok State Guy..

I will tell you all my motives..
It looks like I am the bad guy because Stuart has been here longer, and he is richer.. His Nation..

OK State Guy, Rich nation.. Everyone likes him...

Here is why, Ok State Guy fell in line with how everyone worked here.. No threat...

I come along, and want to help build a World Government because one, I didn't like the current structure, two the power was uneven... I blasted the promotion of the NLUO World Government to create an alternative to the Status Qutota.. The majority of the World does not see the NLUO as a threat, but if you pay close attention to the posts any NLUO members or me in particular post, there are the power junkies right behind us to spam us.. I understand that I spam alot, but it was in reaction to aggression towards me.. The only reason my nation has not moved forward is becaue I get boycotted every 2 years... ALL THIS IS OVER WORDS... NOT ACTIONS WORDS....

They see that the NLUO is growing and people are interested, and it is a threat to their way of life, and their power.. Period....

If Stuart would have never spammed my threads I created from the Beginning.. I would still be posting in that same thread, or have a thread in each forum.. We have a fed so I can post there... We have a common market, so I can post there..

Compare this to school. Remember when you were in school, and you made up a game, and all the kids said they didn't want to play.. Then you go play it yourself, and then some kids come play, then some more, and before you know it the kids who didn't want to play at first are playing.. Except for the kids that spoke out and said the game was stupid.. Those kids always tried to start a fight to gstop the game altogether, and then later beat up the kid who made the game up. This is the same senario with different people..

No, you are despised because you came here and thought you could tell others whom they could and could not declare war upon.

That decision does not rest with you, never has, and never will. You will never have the right to dictate to another president, especially one outside your fed, what to do. It rests with the president who logs into his respective nation.

No one is trying to control anyone...


Keith, You take things too personal..

"The majority of the World does not see the NLUO as a threat" -- Probably because the majority of the world doesn't even know about NLUO or VS or any other major fed. Let's face it, the majority of the world are comprised of unknown players who don't read the forum or don't use the chat features or both. Those who know of it are the few who use either the forum or chatroom. I'm betting that less than 30% of the LU playing world is aware of NLUO.

You might ask how I came to this conclusion, well mostly just guess work (90%) and the low amount of aid requests from new players (10%). If new players were immediately directed to these forums, I'd see a lot more requests for "FREE MONEY" and they'd know more of all the political nonsense going on here on LU.

Grayson: Good disclaimer. I need to adopt something as well, but for now--"Yeah, what Grasyon said above!"