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NLUO- An Isolationist's POV

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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 05:32 Link
So many questions, so few answers. You can't really say until certain situations come into play.

Until we get most of the NLUO members to agree on some set of principles to abide by, there may not ever be a military unity among the members of the NLUO. I think it will be some time yet until the NLUO can come together and form a militarily cohesive force. As of now, the most common denominator amongst NLUO members is self defense, and defending our right to try and make LU a more cooperative environment, despite the haters.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 06:19 Link
Yes. This is an exact assessment of the situation Ma'dam Secretary, in which I am addressing behind the scenes before my term is up. Hopefully if I am re-elected we can continue to work on this issue. The main thing is to bring those who are active together to be able to learn how to move politically through the government set up, and then bring that to the world of LU through the forums, and all of us moving together on the things we democratically come together on. For example. If King Lord Lee sees that there is going to be a major down turn in economies because of changes in the game, then we need to listen to that, and if he passes legislation that says we need to stay away from a certain product, or we need to not buy on the international market for a time. We all need to communicate that back to the feds and common markets so that it is understand. We all know how to network, so it should not be hard. The main thing is buying into the system of political democracy and incorporating it into the game. It is doable. We have done it on a number of instances. But once we all get to know the process, and move with it, we will be better off as a collective group. We need to set aside time to meet as a government once a real month, and call it the State of Little Upsilon General Assembly Address. Just some ideas on how to build that collective oneness we seek, and still maintain a division of individuality through political ideology.
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shave
19 Dec 2012 06:35 Link
ya know, with ideologies being so far apart from each other, i would recommend you form some office that is neither expansionist or Isolationist, but rather an enforcer of law. sort of a NLUO Marshall's office. someone with a large military capability to enforce the rule of law on both sides of the fence. create a bipartisan congress or legislative protocol that will at least begin the creation of some viable legislation that will direct the affairs of the NLUO and give the organization some kind of solid ground to stand on. it seems to me that like the republicans and democratic parties neither side will as Ms.Wendy said ever really agree on ideologies. but with the enforcement of law, unconditionally submitted to the organizational whole, at least you can guarantee the working ability of both parties when they hold their perspective office. thus at least one would have the comfort of knowing that if elected they then do truly have the power to effect real change. giving one incentive to thereby participate in the organizational process.

more food for thought! :)
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 06:44 Link
We already Have that. It is called the Executive Branch!!
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shave
19 Dec 2012 06:50 Link
yes but from what I can tell, it is neither neutral nor does it really have any power.
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shave
19 Dec 2012 06:52 Link
and who Hezzy is in that branch that is neither EXPA, or ISO????
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shave
19 Dec 2012 06:59 Link
because they are one or the other, they hold to a bias position thus monopolizing the government. and its ability to project power. that's the problem with your system Hezz. you have absolutely no real checks or balances. some how you always seem to come out on top. people will put up with that for a little while why there hasn't been enough time for the smoke to clear and for transparency to sink in, but that point will come eventually if you don't deal with these issues.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 18:01 Link
I thank you for the feedback. It is noted. But each Branch should be able to check themselves. Yes I agree it is easy to be corrupt with the right alliances in position, but that is the beauty of the system. You can make a choice to be corrupt or righteous. In a system you are proposing, there is no room for choice. This constitutes a dictatorship no matter how noble.
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 18:28 Link
I think the best analogy to use to explain this to shave is to use the US congress for example. Politically these two groups are against each other, but when it comes to defending America, the two always meet in the middle. I think the same will be true for the NLUO with the Isolationists and Expansionists. Politically opposed, but united in a common goal of defending the government.
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Mizore
19 Dec 2012 18:31 Link
Or you could ignore the entirely unrealistic view of organizations here as best being modeled on governments and follow the team-based structures that have proven successful and enjoyable time and time again.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 18:52 Link
Here are the checks and balances,

Executive Branch: The Administration: This is the executive branch of the NLUO. This branch regulates, and manages the priorities, and set the policies of the NLUO. It consists of a Secretary General, who is elected for up to 4 terms; which are 40 LU years each term. The Secretary General is the head Secretary of the NLUO Administration. Next would be the Secretary of State who regulates the federations.Next would be the Secretary of Defense, who runs the wars, military training, and coordinates defense strategy withe Secretary of State. Next would be the Secretary of Justice, who regulates the LU International court, and is the Prosecutor for court proceedings. Next would be the Secretary of LU Security who regulates the LU Security Council. Next would be the Secretary of Treasury who regulates the common markets, and in turn the World Bank. Each Secretary must follow the policies of their respective party or risk condemnation by the LU International Court.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 18:59 Link
The Executive Branch checks the tricameral Legislature, and the LU International Court checks the Executive Branch, and the Justice Department Checks the LU International Court, and the Secretary General Appoints Justices. All branches checked and balanced.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 19:00 Link
Now Here are the Ideologies these branches work off of.

Expansionist Party: This political party's platform is an aggressive platform. They believe in an aggressive role for the NLUO in the governing of Little Upsilon. They put focus on the Federations, and the Security Council. They help build up the federations to have a strong military presence in Little Upsilon. They put great pressure on the LU Security Council to pass resolutions for war against any agressive behavior by nations who go to war without consent of the NLUO. The NLUO Secretary General has the most power in this political atmosphere. Through this Party the Secretary General will be free to issue executive orders if the LU Security Council does not act on any issues that should arise. They believe that the NLUO should play a dominant role in the security of Little Upsilon. Generally this party does not focus so much on finance. They believe that through an aggressive foreign policy, the world Economy will take care of itself. Generally the State Department, LU Security Department, and Justice Department have a great amount of power in an Expansionist party Administration. They rarely pass Foreign aid budgets. Instead they prefer to use foreign aid as a precursor for behavior modification of nations. This administration limits the power of the Justice Department, and LU International Court, and uses the LU Security Council for passing resolutions etc. In all this party wants to expand the control and domination of the NLUO on Little Upsilon.


solationist Party: This political party's platform is a more passive platform. They believe in a more non interventionalist role for the NLUO in the governing of Little Upsilon. They put more focus on finance, and helping nations to build their economies. They believe in non intervention in times of war. They would rather pass economic sanctions on nations who are overly aggressive. As long as a nation is not causing any harm to the global economy in their endevors, this political party's administration takes a non intervention stance on war. They don't believe the NLUO should be used as a war tool for control, but rather economically help new and banrupt nations repair their economies. They send resolutions to the LU security council for Economic aid to countries. The Secretary General submits foreign aid budgets to the LU security council. Generally in this adminstration, the common markets are built up, and they believe this will bring security to Little Upsilon. The Treasury Department is generally the most powerful office in this administration. The Secretary General is usually pressured not to use Executive orders in this administration. The Justice Department is used in this administration to contain the power of the Secretary General, State Department, and LU Security Department. This administration also uses the LU International Court more than the Lu Security Council in this Administration. In all this party wants to play a more behind the scenes role for the NLUO on Little Upsilon.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 19:02 Link
People do not follow the ideologies to a t, but in a round about way, this is exactly the divide on Little Upsilon. You have the Econ guys, and you have the war guys. The Moderates are the ones who bring these 2 together.
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 19:59 Link
Scarlet. No one is forcing your to participate your statement applies to yourself and you should not oppose players based on them wanting to play this game politically different than your ideal view.
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shave
19 Dec 2012 20:58 Link
Interesting. I guess Id be interested in seeing the break down of the judicial Branch and how exactly you have it set up. and yea I get what you are saying Ms.Wendy and it makes sense. i just after reading some of the comments of the isolationists, got the impression that hostilities were a factor to say the least. :)
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 22:05 Link
LU International Criminal Court: THE LITTLE UPSILON INTERNATIONAL COURT WAS ESTABLISHED TO HOLD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR POLICIES, AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THEIR POLICIES. THIS COURT ALSO OVERSEE CASES OF GENOCIDE, CASES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE. THE SECURITY COUNCIL MUST REFER ALL CASES OF CRIMES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE TO THE COURT. IF THE SECURITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO PASS A RESOLUTION THEN THE COURT MUST ALLOW THE SECURITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. THE COURT CAN NOT ISSUE ANY ARREST WARRANTS. THE COURT CAN ONLY ISSUE SUMMONS TO NLUO MEMBERS FOR THEIR MISCONDUCT. THE LU INTERNATIONAL COURT CONSISTS OF 5 JUSTICES: THE CHIEF JUSTICE, AND 4 ASSOCIATE JUSTICES. ALL JUSTICES ARE APPOINTED BY THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE NLUO. THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE 2 ISOLATIONIST PARTY MEMBERS ON THE BENCH AT ALL TIMES IF THE CHIEF JUSTICE IS AN EXPANSIONIST PARTY MEMBER, AND VICE VERSA. JUSTICES TERMS ARE FOR 100 LITTLE UPSILON YEARS, BUT THERE ARE NO TERM LIMITS.

The Justice Department issues arrest warrants, and court summons. The Justice Secretary also acts as the Attorney General for the LUICC.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 22:06 Link
PUNISHMENTS IF FOUND GUILTY, AND SENTENCED
LEVEL 7 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, ISOLATED, STRIPPED OF THEIR EMPIRE, PRESIDENTIAL BOYCOTTED FOR 30 YEARS EVERY 2 YEARS, SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS AGAINST THE NATION IN QUESTION FOR NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND NO NUCLEAR FACILITIES IN THEIR COUNTRY.
LEVEL 6 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, ISOLATED,AND STRIPPED OF THEIR EMPIRE, PRESIDENTIAL BOYCOTTED FOR 30 YEARS EVERY 2 YEARS
LEVEL 5 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, AND ISOLATED.
LEVEL 4 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN ALLOWED TO RETURN, BUT TO START OVER FROM THE MASSES PARTY, AND CAN NOT HOLD ANY POWER POSITIONS.
LEVEL 3 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THEIR SEAT IN THE PARTY THEY WERE LAST IN IF NO ONE HAS CLAIMED IT.
LEVEL 2 FELONY: MUST STEP DOWN FROM THEIR POSITION OF POWER IN THEIR PARTY. IF THEY HAVE NO POSITION OF POWER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOTING AT ALL..
LEVEL 1 FELONY: CAN NOT VOTE ON ANY ISSUES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME..
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Mizore
20 Dec 2012 01:23 Link
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
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shave
20 Dec 2012 22:07 Link
ok that helps as far as the judiciary branch goes.:)