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Security Council Aid (Kebir Blue)

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figure8 (Kebir Blue)
07 Dec 2008 14:02 Link
hello, fellow presidents. iam new to the game and would very much apreciate if a council member nominates my country "republica Makedonia" for 4T in develpoment aid as i meet all crieria's needed. also any advice would also be greatly appreciated.
very high regards.
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
07 Dec 2008 19:01 Link
@ figure8

There is no country with that name.

Outstanding Aid Requests

Keddis13 has requested $4 trillion in aid for the country "Pecunia".

This new president's country meets all the aid conditions. in addition, he was just hit by a large earthquake.

lazyoz has requested aid for the country "The Elvis Theocracy".

Lazyoz messaged me explaining that he is a new player who made "a bad war choice" by expanding his empire to two countries too quickly. He has low cash reserves and is in need of funds. He also stated that if he receives aid he will, in turn, continue to avoid undesirable activities, such as the production of nuclear weapons.
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Charles III (Kebir Blue)
07 Dec 2008 19:05 Link
I found it in world brows... Figure8 is president of "Republica Makedonija".
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
07 Dec 2008 19:10 Link
Thank you, Charles!

Please add figure8 has requested $4T in aid for the country "Republica Makedonija" to the aid list.

@ figure8

As for some advice, I recommend balancing your educational priorities to get your corporation hiring up to 100%. And keep building schools.
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SimCEO (Kebir Blue)
07 Dec 2008 21:24 Link
update on my progress, my education index now is around 1.2

I am tinkering around with my corps now ( especially the part about trading between local and common market)

My problem now is that after I somehow got into the supply contracts page, the AI advisor says to trade as much with local and common market as possible. So I modified all the resouces I needed to buy from local and common market.

But now I kept seeing red warnings about contracts not fulfilled, and I am running out of resources that common markets are supposed to supply my corps.

So far I am only able to get into that supply contract offering page via the warning link of contract not fulfilled, when I get into the regular corps contract page the page looks different.

How do I cancel trading ONLY within local and common markets? and select trading with international markets?

Also any Veterans willing to sell me some Population for between 2-3 coins per mil?

Any advise on which is the better Federation to join?
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The Crafty Cockney (Kebir Blue)
08 Dec 2008 22:49 Link
God this is getting sick.

When I started, not that long ago, no open advertising of "Security Council" aid was made. I do however agree with Kevins bringing it to the forums as he has.

But now listen to yourselves:

continue to avoid undesirable activities, such as the production of nuclear weapons.

made "a bad war choice" by expanding his empire to two countries too quickly.

meets all the aid conditions.

Whose conditions? Excuse me, I'm part of the community too. And I dis-agree with some of your dictatorial conditions.

Gandolf has put it most succinctly:

1) NEED vs. WANT - A player that has gotten to the point of being in NEED of aid, through little or no fault of their own, disaster or such, is very different from the player that just WANTS. Generally, it has been my experience that the wanting player has already blown through whatever resources at their disposal on programs that do not foster a stable growing economy, and/or threaten those players around them. Additional funds would only reward poor, unwanted, or unwise behavior. Whereas a player in NEED, who is trying to build an empire, or even just a country that will prosper over the long haul is one that I am much more incline to assist.

So drop your 'holier than thou' stance and view each request on its merits, not your pre-conceived ideas of how a player should conduct their affairs.

Anyhow, I had to get that off my chest, sorry.

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BorderC (Fearless Blue)
09 Dec 2008 00:14 Link
CC, nobody is taking a "holier than thou" mindset. They're just trying to help people. Kevin and others have seen a problem and they are trying to address it.

It's good to have guidelines so people can know what they are, and so the council can act with consistency. You can raise a dissent and influence those guidelines, but you have no grounds to mock the people that are trying to do something.

You could be in their shoes someday. Don't be so disparaging with your remarks.

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Just Spock (Kebir Blue)
09 Dec 2008 01:16 Link
put in aid request for "Pecunia".
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
09 Dec 2008 02:40 Link
@ CC

I started this thread for constructive conversation, not rants.

The conditions, which you seem to imply are secret and concrete, are clearly listed at the top of this thread and are open for discussion.

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Actually, all the quotes you listed were mine. So there's no need to make accusations at the rest of the KB community.

If you have a problem with me, or who I personally feel comfortable proposing for aid, then I'm sure we can find a way to settle our differences.
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GaiusJuliusCaesar (Kebir Blue)
09 Dec 2008 20:49 Link
I think this forum is excellent. I get better info on the condition and the reason for the request for aid than I do from explanations on the SC page. I prefer to make informed decisions, rather than guess why someone needs help. Keep this thread going.......
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
11 Dec 2008 01:20 Link
I just proposed aid for the president of "The Elvis Theocracy". On a side note, I found his messages to me hilarious. For one, he referred to himself as "the high Elvis". Also, after I told him that he was on the waiting list he responded saying that there was a "cheeseburger in Heaven" for me, lol. I did not nominate him because of his sense of humor, but I certainly think that we could use more players with that quality!

Outstanding Aid Requests

Figure8 has requested $4T in aid for the country "Republica Makedonija".
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Just Spock (Kebir Blue)
14 Dec 2008 04:30 Link
Can some one please request aid for "Kingdom Of Heaven"? This payer is new and suffer such big earthquake is terrible.

Major Earth Quake hits Kingdom Of Heaven
The official magnitude of the earthquake was 8.1 which was felt in the whole country. The epicenter of the quake was in Kingdom Of Heaven 2. 1486 were killed and 2892 persons were wounded. 15825 were displaced by the earthquake.



Major Earth Quake hits Kingdom Of Heaven 2
The official magnitude of the earthquake was 8.1 which was felt in the whole country. 31821 were killed and 69900 persons were wounded. 465928 were displaced by the earthquake.


Outstanding Aid request:
"Kingdom Of Heaven"
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Kingdom of Heaven (Kebir Blue)
14 Dec 2008 11:37 Link
Thank you for that post, Just Spock.

All of that information is correct and i was hoping for some aid from other experienced players. That is a pretty big earthquake and i am struggeling to recover from it.

2 months on, no progress.

All help from the Security Council members and general players will appreciated.

Many Thanks

Kingdom Of Heaven
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
18 Dec 2008 02:32 Link
Just Spock has Kingdom of Heaven in general voting right now, please vote yes!

I just created a proposal for Figure8 of "Republica Makedonija".

At this moment, we have no outstanding requests.
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Lombardi (Kebir Blue)
21 Dec 2008 22:33 Link
I ask the security council to intervene to the pending war game on Kebir Blue | Hercula Major | Cabana Magnifica that is being organized by other non KB resident players. Alot of presidents especially those in affected region don't agree to this war. We believe, peace will be disrupted once the war broke out. Assets will be in jeopardy and people will be discouraged if this war is allowed. Only the significant presidents of KB world can impose such sanction to those war mongering players. Please stand up and oppose the war. Thank you very much
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
21 Dec 2008 23:40 Link
Your concern is noted.
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GaiusJuliusCaesar (Kebir Blue)
22 Dec 2008 22:09 Link
My sentiments are the same as Lombardi. KB does not need this war
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BorderC (Fearless Blue)
22 Dec 2008 22:40 Link
Jesus, what a bunch of alarmists.

For one, it was decided DAYS ago to move this war to FB. Two, war IS a part of the game, even in KB. Why don't we get the Security Council to convince the admins to ban war altogether on KB? Damn, ban capturing C3s, somebody could get out of control, become too powerful or controlling and then "ruin" the game for everybody else.

Now I am a newcomer to this game and have admitted that I don't know how all of the systems work, but nobody has been able to explain to me exactly how their "Assets will be in jeopardy and people will be discouraged if this war is allowed" if they aren't involved.

This is an arranged competition... it's not an experiment, and it's not a real war. It's limited to one region. It's limited to slave, or unsecured states. The sides are dictated so KB feds won't be involved. Nukes and navies are restricted. It's temporary (until one side loses) and the only reason it would "drag on" is if the participants enjoyed the competition enough to do it again.

Now, as I've stated, it's already moved to FB because that made sense. The reason it wasn't on FB to begin with was because a lot of people that wanted to do it weren't able to on FB for whatever reason. Nobody was expecting the belly aching on KB that has occured.

There. That was my soap box. I don't mind that we have to move the competition but I'm annoyed by how everybody claims that their own empires may be disturbed on this "peaceful" world, which threatens WAR if we bring this competition to it (not everybody.. but some), without explaining to me how this is true. I think other participants feel the same. Maybe there is just some misunderstanding....

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nix001 (Kebir Blue)
23 Dec 2008 00:27 Link
Hi BorderC.
I think what it is is that over the years people have fought to find a balance in the known Sim Universe, which has lead to an understanding between certain players to whom belongs where.
Our main opposition came from someone not wanting someone else coming to KB. And then as you know, it snowballed into the whole idea was unworkable and basicaly would not be tolerated.
It's a shame, as it looks like we've lost one or two fighters due to the move, but hey, the show will go on.

Glory to the EU
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Jabberwock (Kebir Blue)
31 Dec 2008 07:16 Link
I would like to recieve aid for Adamsfield. My economy could use the cash reserve as my country grows.
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
01 Jan 2009 01:11 Link
I created an aid proposal for Adamsfield. Please vote YES!
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Kingdom of Heaven (Kebir Blue)
04 Jan 2009 22:59 Link
I have accepted the proposal for Adamsfield. However, i think you should sell some of your defensive weapons until you get enough corps to keep you going. The defensive cost is literally killing your country. Lower it, get more corps in there, then maybe increase your defensive status.

Many Thanks

Kingdom Of Heaven
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Kevin Henry (Kebir Blue)
07 Jan 2009 01:38 Link
In the interest of full disclosure:

I have voted against the aid proposal for the country "Verizon Investment". This president has not unblocked his strategic index after my request. He also does not meet the aid conditions due to the fact that he has a plutonium corp in one of his slave countries.

I will also vote no when/if the proposal reaches general voting.
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Matthew Haataja (Kebir Blue)
07 Jan 2009 02:07 Link
I'm curious what made Adamsfield a candidate for aid... his country seemed to be in fine shape and every president could use some extra cash to develop their infrastructure... im a new player and curious.
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Kevin Henry (Little Upsilon)
07 Jan 2009 02:17 Link
Adamsfield met the conditions listed at the top of this thread. I would be happy to propose aid for anyone that meets the listed conditions :).