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Developmental Aid (Golden Rainbow)

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General Dirt (Little Upsilon)
30 Nov 2008 03:54 Link
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Ron Samuels (Golden Rainbow)
01 Dec 2008 19:09 Link
New to the discussion and a member for about 3 weeks - my problem was/is why should he get it, and not me. (yes i've got a little empire now - and no I may not need it now - but I sure wasted a lot of money figuring out how to get started and now have some good debts going) - But I agree with the establish some basic rules - and give it to those who meet those rules. Then you'll get people to vote yes (especially if the vote tells them why people are getting this money).

PS Feel free to nominate me for some... lol
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Austia (Golden Rainbow)
02 Dec 2008 12:15 Link
What is your Main countries name? I'll send the offer through and keep my fingers crossed for u.
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William Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
20 Dec 2008 20:15 Link
Memorandum for: Record (Petition for Economic Aid)

RE: Democratic Union of Makam (DUM)

1. Nation State (NS) requests $E5,000,000,000,000 in developmental aid.

2. NS has the following Indexes:
Health 88.5 Buisne 98.1
Educat 94.8 SS Qua 102.0
Transp 98.1 Ge Sal 162.8
Employ 88.8 Gov Sa 162.5
Supply 90.0 Welfar 86.7
C Wlfa 110.6 Migrat 46.4
Financ 152.9 War In 60.0
Assets 12.6 Def In 14.82 Def 46.2 Off 12.75
No Strategic Forces nor aspirations to aquire same.

3. NS current goal: Achieve Def Force Index of 75.00 in order to reach Level 2.

4. NS has recently elected a new President.

5. NS has 15 operating corporations, 4 of which are privately owned, and recognizes that it is preferable that all corporations are outside of state control.

6. NS has established a corporate tax rate of 10%.

7. NS will use procured funds in accordance with any economic plan attached to the receipt of the funds.

8. Barring direction on the expenditure of funds, NS will use the funds to push each major economic index to 150.0, and will use funds to increase Def Level to 75 and above, if it is economically sustainable over the long term.

9. The NS has a long term goal of settling it's neighboring nations which at the present time exist in a state of chaos.

10. The NS is constitutionally barred from waging a war against any country with a duelly elected president that has not first conducted military operations against it's military forces or citizenry, or of those of it's allies.

11. The NS is not a part of any alliance, federation, or any other informal or formally recognized political, military, or economic entity; although there are no constitutional or policy restrictions against joining such organizations.

12. Should the joining of any sort of alliance be a precondition for the receipt of these funds, the NS will not object out of hand, but is very biased against joining any military alliance at this time.

William Ryan
Democratic Union of Makam
President
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Austia (Golden Rainbow)
21 Dec 2008 08:10 Link
I tried to give you an offer and this popped up "No country by this name. (1)"

Did you get it wrong?
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Rick (Golden Rainbow)
21 Dec 2008 09:01 Link
William Ryan, That's a better game plan than "The Big Three". Get the name of your country right, (because it's not showing up on search) and we'll bring the aid package up for a vote. On the merit of "formality" and "length of application" alone.
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William Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
21 Dec 2008 09:05 Link
[ Messages for The Democratic Union of Makam ]

The above is a copy and paste of the name of the country. Maybe I'm too new?
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William Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
22 Dec 2008 02:26 Link
Alright, I've just learned that I'm not including the "THE" at the beginning of the name:

The Democratic Union of Makam.

Thanks.
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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
22 Dec 2008 02:50 Link
A proposal has been entered and the Council is voting.
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
22 Dec 2008 19:27 Link
Those in the future, this would be a GOOD way to present a proposal.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)
23 Dec 2008 02:40 Link
indeed it would. couldn't do it better myself.

The general vote that goes before the 'people' should reference this thread or better yet just include this info into the vote description.

Assuming this is done, I would hope the vote would pass. If it doesn't, well there isn't much more one can do unfortunately.
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William Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
25 Dec 2008 11:24 Link
Greetings:

I wanted to briefly address the General Assembly of Nations concerning the economic development aid proposal that has been passed by the Security Council and now sits before you.

At this point it appears that pass or fail, it will be a close vote. This surprises me.

As I understand the situation, being very new to the my position, there is a large amount of capital being flushed from the world by forces beyond our control. At the same time, a large reservoir of funds sits in an account which does nothing. And there is the opportunity for any nation to petition for the use of these funds.

Yet quite a few have excercised their right to vote for keeping those funds locked up. It escapes me as to why.

The injection of $E5,000,000,000,000 into the general economy through the vehicle of a developing nation will increase the demand for goods from your own factories across the board.

Keeping the money where it is does no one any good whatsoever.

Furthermore, the rejection of this release of funds makes it less likely that other new nations will be successful in obtaining like funds in the future, if for no other reason than it makes it less likely they will even petition for receipt of the aid.

If this is an issue of, "Well, I'm not getting any of this money, why should anyone?". . .

Well, there's no arguing with that logic, except to suggest that you petition yourself. And if you are not a 'new' nation and are not elligible, then direct your energies to secure similar aid for your allies/friends who are new.

But locking up these funds and keeping them out of circulation does nothing to further the development of the world on the whole.

In closing, if you have not voted yet I urge you to look over the petition. If you have any questions feel free to message me and I'll get back to you.

Pass or fail The Democratic Union of Makam will continue to advance to one day join the ranks of the most advanced nations.

Here's hoping that development occurs at the quickest pace possible, which will do the whole world (including those presidents who will come stumbling into power in the future) the most good.

Thanks.
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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
25 Dec 2008 23:39 Link
@William

I've been saying that for a long time. People believe they have the right to judge who needs it and not. Sum say no empires. I believe Young empires qualify. I CAN say that because I'm on the SC.


@everyone else- Please vote in support of this proposal. If the community can't agree, I will stop proposing aide and no one will get any.

The Poo-Bah
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
26 Dec 2008 21:56 Link
It doesn't look like anyone is ever going to receive developmental aid on Golden Rainbow.
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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
27 Dec 2008 00:08 Link
It's that whole "If I can't get any, I don't want anyone else to get any" attitude on GR.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)
27 Dec 2008 16:13 Link
hmph. Maybe we can petition to have a comment field in the vote proposal, so we can get the business plan attached. or at least a summary.

I can only assume those who voted against don't really know the details aside from what little info is included in the vote description itself. A lot of players may not have read this thread and don't really know what's going on...or that they have the chance to get in on the action.
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
31 Dec 2008 02:35 Link
I ask everyone take a look at the similar thread in the Little Upsilon forum.

They are sending out aid to MULTIPLE countries a week.

While here on Golden Rainbow we can't even get aid out to ONE country. It truly is a sad and pathetic state of affairs.

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Relio (Golden Rainbow)
31 Dec 2008 03:27 Link
I voted against because I had no idea there was a plan. I just noticed there were forums. The resolutions need information attached so we know there is a reason for the aid. I thought, "Why should someone get aid, I didn't?" Stimulating the economy in this manner makes sense. I'll vote yes next time, now that I know. I spend enough time managing virtual horses to read these forums too.
Is there a way to send a message to every country in Golden Rainbow? It would be nice if, when a vote came up, I had a message explaining why.
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
31 Dec 2008 03:30 Link
Well, when I personally join the SC next month (since I'm #1 on Golden Rainbow, that is a given), I will make sure that many more aid proposals are voted upon and be given a chance to be voted on.

The one every 3-4 real life weeks is complete crap.

If we got a system going similar to what they're doing over on LU, I'm sure more people would vote for them.

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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
31 Dec 2008 11:03 Link
I'll Try Again. If you need any Aid and fit into one of the above stated criterea, please post here. I'm sure one of the SC members will give you the nod. I challenge each SC member to sponser 1 player each, within the next week.
Poo-bah
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Nextlevel23 (Golden Rainbow)
12 Jan 2009 03:10 Link
What is the exact criterea for the aid package SC?
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The Grand Poobah
12 Jan 2009 03:13 Link
are you new, peaceful and devoted to the game? How many countries do you own and what scores does your empire consist of?
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
12 Jan 2009 05:46 Link
Nextlevel23, I posted some guidelines in the other thread I have going for this.

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shaun (Golden Rainbow)
13 Jan 2009 08:14 Link
just joined this world. hey Q hows it going lol. wouldnt mind some developement aide to my newbie nation. been playing on LU now for like 45 days. so i sort of know what im doing.
Shaunzland
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AlexandeRtheGreaT007 (Golden Rainbow)
15 Jan 2009 17:39 Link
I would like some aid

The empire of messopatamia

only 8m population

war index 50
trade index 76
corp assets 740m

i just started playing about a week ago