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Jiang Hu Warrior
20 Nov 2012 01:17 Link
it'll be better (or will be) to let sleeping dogs lie before anyone else inflames any kind of misdirected speech reguarding anything in real life before it starts to get out of hand, no one needs to get banned for any outspoken wit or comments! LET it lie and keep your thoughts to oneself!
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nix001
20 Nov 2012 02:32 Link
Shave. Those words were written when man had no idea about the meaning of life. Times have moved on. No one person or kind of person can make claim to land or rights due to their race, ethnicity, religion or their ancient history. To move forward we relinquish the past to the present. For you to stay in the past destroys the present leaving you only hope for a future that will only exist if you destroy the meaning of the present.

This prophesy would have come true if you had looked beyond your own existence. For then it would have proven that you are truly the people of God. Which is why I refer to the enemy of God as Zionists not Jews. The Jews are at one with God creation where ever they are.

Romeo. Monday morning 90 Gazans Dead, hundreds if not getting on to the thousand wounded.
3 Israeli Dead 0 wounded.
Only God knows what it really is in Gaza due to the collapsed buildings and the chaos.

If a occupying force removes you from your land by force and puts you in a prison camp where they control your every move. Would you not resist? How many Jews revolted in the prison camps of the Nazi's? If they could have built bombs do you think they would have used them? If they could have killed a guard do you think they would have done so? If there was any chance of defeating the The Germans do you think they would have taken it?

There seems to be a problem with the Gazans tactics as-well. You talk about their leaders going underground. What happens to the President when a state of war is declared? Does he stroll around the gardens of the white house or does he get on board AirForce One and be kept safe?

Plus when the occupying force kills whole families in one strike and 100's of children without a blink of a eye. Knowing that every citizen of that occupied force is a soldier at a minutes notice who will come and kill your children, why would you think about where your home made rocket is going to end up as long as it hits something? Especially when you know it is more than likely going to end up in a field or blow up in your face?

And as for the seemingly daft question on why Hamas do not come out into the open and all stand in a line with their middle fingers held high shouting 'Come and have a go if you think your hard enough' at the Zionists is because they will all be killed by the drones and F16's. Again it seems like you expect them to just roll over and accept whats happening to them? Don't you think they would love to have F16's, Drones and Battleships with cruse missiles to fight a open battle and pound the Army and leaders of Israel away from their children and Families?

Remember David and Goliath? Can't you see that its like saying that David should have had his sling shot taken off him and accepted his demise.
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Romeo Vicardi
20 Nov 2012 17:57 Link
There are 90 or by now even 100 dead.
Most of them are Hamas terrorists killed while launching missiles.
I would prefer their leaders to die, who have sent them to these missions but they have to stop them from launching.

I wonder where you have been when the Syrians are slaughtering children, women and everyone else for nearly two years, more than 50.000 but we will not know how many.

Every day, including today, yesterday etc. hundreds of Syrians are dying.

Many thousands more Syrians have died in the past two years than Palestinians in the last 100 years of conflict.

I have never seen any message from you about this.
You don't care at all about these children in Gaza. You just hate Jews.
Go away. You are too stupid for this game anyway.

I will copy your texts and mail them to Simcountry. They have always removed bigots, Nazis and other scum.

The Israelis say it time and time again that every civilian in Gaza who dies in this conflict is a grave error and consider it a disaster.
In the mean time, Israelis are running around in Arab villages and cities within Israel, Jerusalem, Jaffa and the entire south to inform the Arab citizens of Israel on how to protect themselves, they have built many shelters and prevented civilians from being hurt from these missiles.

Mr. Idiot: You are the Scum of the earth.

This conflict will be over, the day Palestinians and all arab countries will truly accept Israel's right to exit within secure borders.

Most Israelis will agree to go back to the borders of 67 with some exchanges of land if they will be sure that the war is over.

They have left Gaza long time ago and the Hamas is talking about the occupyer.
They mean that Tel Aviv is occupied and the rest of Israel proper. they want Israel to disappear.

not going to happen and Jerusalem will remain its capital.

peace with Egypt and Jordan happened when they woke up to realize that Israel is not going to disappear.
Now the Palestinians should wake up to realize the same.
they will find a willing partner in Israel who will support them in building their country.
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nix001
20 Nov 2012 18:23 Link
'This conflict will be over, the day Palestinians and all arab countries will truly accept Israel's right to exit within secure borders.

Most Israelis will agree to go back to the borders of 67 with some exchanges of land if they will be sure that the war is over.'

I say this conflict will be over when the illegal settlements stop, the blockade is lifted, Palestinians are free to go from Gaza to the West bank and Israel goes back to 67 borders. Then if the Palestinians still attack, you have the right to call it self defence. Even though the Zionists broke all the rules of the Jews settlement in The Holy Land, so really the Jewish people should be just a part of the Holy Land community and not a separate land.

As for the Arab spring I am disgusted that America, Europe and Israel not only allowed the Muslim Brotherhood to get away with it, but also helped them for their own interest of the Petro-dollar. But civil war is civil war. Syrians killing Syrians. Heart breaking but their own doing. They are not being killed by a occupying force that has removed them from their land, caged them in who makes life hell for them and then will not tolerate their resistance.

But as I said.......there is a bigger picture going on here and we are all guilty of not upholding our duty as Guardians for the innocent by not seeking the truth and stopping those who have lost touch with reality and who choose to create chaos and death so they can then bring in order under their terms.

Zionists are not Jews as Al-Qa'ida are not Muslims. They are the embodiment of the Anti-Christ here to divide and conquer through exclusion, fear and hate.
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Kiss_of_Death
20 Nov 2012 19:08 Link
Oh Lordy, I need a vacation. I'm seeing DOUBLE! I coulda sworn I just posted on this in another thread!!!
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shave
21 Nov 2012 01:38 Link
Shave. Those words were written when man had no idea about the meaning of life. Times have moved on. No one person or kind of person can make claim to land or rights due to their race, ethnicity, religion or their ancient history. To move forward we relinquish the past to the present. For you to stay in the past destroys the present leaving you only hope for a future that will only exist if you destroy the meaning of the present.

This prophesy would have come true if you had looked beyond your own existence. For then it would have proven that you are truly the people of God. Which is why I refer to the enemy of God as Zionists not Jews. The Jews are at one with God creation where ever they are.


are you kidding me? what kind of new age mumbo jumbo is that? ROFL Written when man had no idea about the meaning of life? lol
tell me what exactly is the meaning of life? this i gotta here! lol sounds to me like you are in your own world there. lol im gonna let this go, I can see there is no point.


Wow! lol oky doky then.
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Wilhelm II Hohensteinburg
21 Nov 2012 03:05 Link
Israel has the right to expand in the lands they belonged to for centuries... They don't ask for conflict but if they are attacked then they will more than willingly expand as they occupy the enemy's territories... Why can't the neighbouring Islamic Countries live in Peace??
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King Hezekiah II
21 Nov 2012 04:14 Link
What If I told you that those people are not the Jews of the Bible, but their Brother, which is why their uncle the Ishmaelites or the Arabs are fighting them. The Ishamelites know that those people in that land told are Edomites or later called Idumaeans, which is Ironic because I am allied with a guy named KIng Herod.. lol... Anyways, this this the reason why this is allowed to go on. Do you not think for a second that the international community will stand by while someone slaughters another people unless it was in their best interests. Those so-called Jews are stealing the land from those Arabs, and murdering them to do it. We have more power as people then we know or even care to exercise because it requires sacrifice, and that is something most of thew world is not wiling to do .
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Wilhelm II Hohensteinburg
21 Nov 2012 05:16 Link
Well you can tell that to the US which is supporting Israel to the Death. I find Muslim beliefs quite aggressive though, with millions of anti-american and anti-Jew movements. If they stop those anti-Jew movements maybe they can find peace, then we will know if it is truly Israel that is wanting more lands and power.
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nix001
21 Nov 2012 15:04 Link
Hi ShaveThe meaning of life is to live and let live. For if you do not let another live with dignity and freedom they will not let you live with dignity and freedom.

Wil. 'Israel has the right to expand in the lands they belonged to for centuries... They don't ask for conflict but if they are attacked then they will more than willingly expand as they occupy the enemy's territories'

Thats like me saying that I'm going to go to Latvia and re-claim the land that my grandparents left behind when they fled in the second world war. I would not do it(even though sometimes I think I should)because that was 70 years ago. A whole generation has lived there. I would, if needed, go and ask if I could share the land with them (which is what the world agreed should happen in 1947 and was actually working until the Zionists took over).
I would never force them into the shed and treat them like animals because I'm human.

The USA is a puppet for the Zionist Illuminate programme. They created a self-image for the colonialists of being 'God's Chosen People called to establish the New Israel in America' which became an integral theme in America's self-interpretation. Then they put the Americans to work to create the wealth needed to build the greatest army in the world, for this army would be needed for the Zionist illuminate to re-take Jerusalem, put in place the 'New Jerusalem Covenant Plan', build the new temple on the temple mount and welcome the Anti-Christ into the World.

America is the Army of the Anti-Christ to put it crudely. And like most manipulated people they have no idea that they are playing apart in something that they would never choose to be apart of.
So Wil like all soldiers, the US will support Israel the the death for thats what soldiers do.

I fear that due to the influence of the Zionist, the Jews have become like a child. They scream, shout and lash out because they have been punished but ignore the reasons why they have been punished. They seek solace in the writings of the past (but they told me to do it) to excuse their actions in the present. Like a child, who has been coerced into carrying drugs by the dealers giving them dreams of having what they want, the Jews are doing the work of the followers of the Anti-Christ because they have also been given the dreams of having what they want.
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King Hezekiah II
21 Nov 2012 17:55 Link
Those are not the Israelites of the Bible.
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Laguna
21 Nov 2012 18:15 Link
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Who cares? Does that make them any less human?
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shave
23 Nov 2012 03:24 Link
and yet you still say nothing of the fact that the muslims bomb and kill anyone who does not agree with them. lol i find that incredibly hilarious. all i hear outta you is those Zionists this, those Zionists that! gimme a break will ya..
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shave
23 Nov 2012 03:27 Link
ok even getting past all of the religious ramifications of this conflict. Nix you act as though the Israelis are baby bombing or something. as though they are hunting innocent people to bomb. they are at war with a group of people who have sworn to wipe Israel off the map, no matter the cost. If Mexico made that threat to the US! it would no longer exist. they...the Muslim terrorist organizations, in this case Hamas, a subsidiary of the Muslim Brotherhood. have strapped countless bombs to themselves and blown them selves and countless innocent bystanders up. but boo hoo for the poor terrorists that frankly would murder you in a heartbeat simply because you do not hold to their ideology. as a tree worshiper your head would be severed from your body if they ever got the opportunity. they would murder you and your whole family in cold blood if it came down to it. these people are not only dangerous to Israel, they are dangerous to the whole world. and frankly when elections were held the Palestinians, or so called, helped to put them in power. so i don't see where they could be innocent either. yes its a shame that children are losing their lives. but ill tell you what is really a shame. that those same children you are crying over will grow up to the ripe age of 7 or 8 and will have a rifle put in their hands and will be told to murder the first Jew or christian they come across. and don't be fooled my sympathetic friend. its just a matter of time before they get to the tree people too.
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nix001
23 Nov 2012 22:49 Link
Shave. You said 'but boo hoo for the poor terrorists that frankly would murder you in a heartbeat simply because you do not hold to their ideology.' NO! they kill because they are being persecuted, assassinated, stolen from, imprisoned, killed ect ect The Zionists turned up and said 'right this is ours its time for you to leave. And if you show resistance we will kill you'

Like I said. If Israel upheld international law and was still attacked then I would be shouting for your corner.

Shave maybe you are all caught up in it and only see one point of view?
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shave
24 Nov 2012 00:41 Link
no Nixx, you my friend are incredibly ignorant of muslim theology. you need to do some research into what these people believe. they are murderers period.! one sided yea right. lol
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shave
24 Nov 2012 00:45 Link
ok Nixx fine, then whats there excuse for murdering people in every other country????????? 9/11 madrid, and every other place on earth where the same people have staged terrorist attacks. oh let me guess? if those Pesky Zionists would just go away they would stop. YEA RIGHT!
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Drew
24 Nov 2012 06:28 Link
There are motives behind actions. Oppression cannot be ignored. I've spoke out on this past threads before but I think I'll leave this one to Nix.

But I will say shame on you shave, and Romeo in believing that these people should have their very essence defined as terrorists. Blankly ignoring the opposing side of the argument and condemning millions of people and depending on how ignorant you may be condemning a billion people. Wise up learn and learn a subject before you open your mouth.

And one question to think about, if US didn't have such a close relationship with Israel predominantly based around weapons trade would 9-11 have struck American Soil?
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SweetPea
24 Nov 2012 06:36 Link
Shave, you are severely misinformed. I'm not surprised though, this is the intent of our modern education system and state run news media propaganda.

Oh well.
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Crafty
24 Nov 2012 18:41 Link
Ha! seems like I have a day of disagreeing with you Sweetie.

Where in particular is shave misinformed?

And I'm much older than you and, I would believe, older than shave. The modern education system doesnt come into it. The philosophy of 'kill any infidel who wont bow down to allah' says it all.

Shame is, this makes the Christian world believe that is the Muslim doctrine in general. Not so, as I know you would agree. Extremism (read terrorism) is not excusable in any instance, regardless of belief, custom or creed. Hamas is extremist. Israel as a state is not.
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Jennifer
25 Nov 2012 13:31 Link
these people have been fighting for two thousand years,If you do not subscribe to their doctrine you are not worthy of Life? Education most certainly does enter the equasion,an educated person is more likely to tolerate a differnce of opinion.While Israel may not be extremist they are fanatical about their religon,very small step between the two.
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Drew
25 Nov 2012 19:34 Link
Generalizations about people?
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Kiss_of_Death
26 Nov 2012 16:30 Link
Drew!!! I wouldn't cross Romeo Vicardi..... he's a sim bad boy!!!! *shakes in fear!!!!

@ Crafty

I can vouch. He's an old fart. ha ha ha ha ha I wuvs you, Crafty! :P
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shave
27 Nov 2012 02:53 Link
Shave, you are severely misinformed. I'm not surprised though, this is the intent of our modern education system and state run news media propaganda.

Oh well.

no I am not misinformed about anything! I have actually studied the belief system of the Muslim religion. they are about one thing! a world caliphate. think im misinformed? read the Koran sometime. this has nothing to do with propaganda.


But I will say shame on you shave, and Romeo in believing that these people should have their very essence defined as terrorists. Blankly ignoring the opposing side of the argument and condemning millions of people and depending on how ignorant you may be condemning a billion people. Wise up learn and learn a subject before you open your mouth.

again drew I have studied this subject in great detail. who said anything about any ones essence? Im talking about a belief system that they hold! Death to anyone who is not a Muslim. that my friend would include you! oh my Gosh! are you serious? lol
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Drew
27 Nov 2012 05:11 Link
@shave
"Generalizations about people?"

I know muslims, I know you are wrong. If your statement is not intended to be about all muslims, well then if it is about the Hamas well all I have to say is, generalizations about people?

You were the one who called Nix a NAZI right?