JERUSALEM

DuvalHates

You are misinformed or plain hateful.

Hamas is launching missiles for years and they try to hit civilian centers in surrounding towns and villages. Israel is trying to hit the launching teams and their launchers.

Israel is not doing the same. Israel never tried to hit civilians. If they want to hit civilians, with the precision weapons they have and the quantities they have, Gaza would be eliminated.

This is where the problem lies.

Hamas uses primitive youngsters who believe in the 70 virgins to shoot at civilians. Recently they hit a bus full of kids that travelled outsize the Gaza strip in Israel proper.

Israel tries to fight them without hitting civilians.

Would the US accept Mexican missiles falling on San Diego?
Would India accept Missiles from Pakistan?

Israel has the right to fight them and what you call the Gaza massacre was a decisive action that destroyed their infra structure and killed the terror leadership.
Unfortunately, many civilians died. There were no intentional shooting at civilians.

When a US missile hits a wedding in Afghanistan and kills 60, it's called collateral damage. When an Israeli bomb kills a Hamas leader and a civilian, it's a massacre.

It is now relatively quiet although each day, there are two or three missiles.

The leaders of the Hamas have learned that the Israelis will find and kill them. It is now very difficult for them to promise the missile launching idiots 70 virgins and have them killed. They know that their own lives are on the line and they hide in holes in the ground.
The only way to fight terrorists is to find their leaders and kill them.

The US is also on the same track. Using drowns in Pakistan has changed the war. They can't hide.

Here are just three cases

Kamal Nasser - killed by an Israeli force who went all the way to Beirut, landed on the beach, went to his home and killed him.

Khalil al Wazir - Killed by an Israeli force that landed on the beach in Tunis. They went to his home and killed him. Palestinian journalists said it must have been Israelis who did it. They said they knew because the people who killed him did not touch his wife and kids.

Abu Ali Mustafa was sitting at his desk in Ramallah when an Apache missile went through the window.

Understand this.

The problem between the Arabs and Jews in Israel will never go away. It can't as long as Israel exists.

The Arab world wants the conflict to remain. It's the only issue they all can unite on. It serves this useful purpose.

I don't think so.

Most Arab states are facing problems at home and will have to change. This will make the conflict even worse in the coming years but in time, they will turn to their own business and will have to satisfy their own population.

Most of the young population does not know why they have to be involved and want to live a life which is free and free of war.

Hamas and Hezbolla will keep fighting as long as they get money from Iran.

The Arab world will become a smaller factor in the energy market. it will take a long time but long before it happens, they will realize that time is running out. They will become obsolete and they will try to enter the main stream.

conflicts never last for ever. People get tired.

example: the entire generation of the PLO is now trying to build their lives in a booming west bank economy and keep far from politics.
they want families, kids and a good life.

The Israelis silently agreed that most of them, those who do not have civilians blood on their hands, will be left alone.

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Quote from Romeo: 'Israel tries to fight them without hitting civilians.'

You are kidding right?

The Zionists have an agenda and God help anyone who gets in their way.

Calling the Israelis Zionists is the classic antisemitic way of evading the word Jews when they spread their antisemitic hate talk.
You have revealed your true face in the first sentence.
when did Israelis bomb a bus full of Palestinian kids.
You are full of hate and you are looking to blame the Jews whatever happens.
The Israelis never targeted civilians. The Palestinians ALWAYS target civilians.
The conflict will not be solved until they stop terrorism.

Most Israelis would love to have a peaceful Palestinian state and leave the west bank to them.
But Israelis are not going to give up an inch until their are sure that it will result in true peace.
They left Gaza and the answer was missiles into Israel.

Come on Romeo...you know how the story goes. Britain and the Arabs decided to let JEWS settle in Arab lands as part of an assimilation program. These JEWS had no inspiration to reclaim Jerusalem and were prepared to live there as part of the community that was already there.
But when world war 2 happened the ZIONISTS with the help of the USA started to smuggle JEWS and ZIONISTS into the land against the wishes of Britain and the Arabs.
Once the Zionists had smuggled enough people and weapons into the land they started their program of occupation and ethnic cleansing.

Dam Romeo...........Occupation? Ethnic cleansing? Blockades? White phosphorus? Cluster Bombs? Radioactive tipped bullets? and you say....'The Israelis never targeted civilians.'

Wow... Laguna.

Rubbish Nix, Rubbish.

You donot know the facts and you come from this rotten group of people for whom JEWS will never do the right thing.

The Balfour declaration was in 1917.
This is when Britain already recognized a Jewish entity in Palestine.
Was Palestine Arab before? When was that exactly?
Most Palestinians came from Syria, Jordan and other countries because the economic boom in Palestine. And who did that exactly?
Yes, you guessed, the Jewish incomers who also dried the swamps and cleared the malaria.

Occupation?
Yes. But the occupation is a result of the terrorism that started in 1948.
The PLO was setup in 1962 and its aim was to destroy Israel.
This was 5 years before the occupation.
Then, as a result of terror attacks, there was occupation.
Bad thing this occupation and it should end but only when Palestinian culture of murder rape and torture will end.
They should also start treating their own women and girls with some respect and stop burning them when they want to talk to a boy their age.
I have seen such a case. The girl survived and lives in Rome.
They should also stop beating their wives, stop allowing man to marry 4 wives while women have no rights and stop cutting off the legs of everyone who disagrees. In Gaza they cut both legs of 400 PLO members. Just imagine what they will do to YOU when they come to your place.

Once you will have to scrap the pieces of your own child from the walls, you will understand what terror is.
As long as Palestinian society and Arab society continues to rape and murder, there will be no solution. As long as their hate for everything that is not Muslim and the racism that covers each and every function in their lives has not ended, there is no hope.

And rest assured, their declared aim is to take the world. first the Jews, then the Christians.

now that the first proves impossible, they turned on the Christians first.
Read the teaching of your friends, the leaders of Hamas and Hezbolla. ask the Christians in Bethlehem if anyone is left there and also the Christians in Bagdad or Egypt.
So spare me the rubbish about ethnic cleansing.

How many Jews live in Arab countries and how many Arabs are there with Israeli citizenship. more than 20% of the population and they do not want to have their areas given to the Palestinian state in an exchange. they are much better off in Israel.
Just yesterday, a friend of mine who is an Italian doctor flying patients to and from Israel who cannot be treated or fell sick during their vacation, came to Europe with a boy of 15 who needs a very complex brain operation.

Israeli doctors contacted a special clinic in Europe.
The boy is from an Arab village. He came with his father and will be picked up after the operation and brought back home.
Everything paid by the regular state insurance in Israel.
Ethnic cleansing my ass.

Najib Amhali, a Moroccan standup comedian in the Netherlands, dedicated several performances in Amsterdam, to the Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem which is probably the best hospital in the middle east that give free treatment to Arabs who cannot pay or are uninsured from the west bank or Gaza but also from Arab countries and Africa.

The Peres center brings 300 Palestinian kids from Gaza each year to be treated in Israel because the money in Gaza goes to missiles.
Check the internet, there are documentaries about this including filming in Gaza and what they say about it including the mother of a saved child who said, while in an Israeli hospital, that her son will become a suicide bomber.
You are full of shit.
Shame on you and every other idiot like you who hate Jews because they are Jews.

As the saying goes

Anti Semitism is the last stage before collapse.
Not because of divine intervention but rather because anti Semitism is the last stage before the rotting process is completed.

Perhaps Laguna should end this thread?

Or end you instead. Maybe a better suggestion.

Hi Wendy,

Wearing that string bikini I sent you?

Hope so.

Cheers,

Maestro

Is that the only come back in your repetoire messtro?

I thought it was strange to see my name in this thread.

I'm no longer the Moderator. Something or other about being disruptive. Either way, let them work it out.

LG not the mod anymore... this is gettin worse everyday, ugh.

Psycho Honey
what are you doing here?
Ever since you left you are here every day.

Something strange going on here isnt there Laguna and Romeo? Care to explain?

No Romeo.....You are full of hate. I know how it can go. You can get your self into a rut where 'Offence is the best kind of Defence'. But this only makes your life even more difficult as you then can not see the forest for the trees.
I dont like the way the Zionists have gone about things. Jews live and let live. Zionists, as of all other fanatics, live only for them selves and have no regards for anyone else.

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You should read the response the last time you asked the same question.

Bumped due to yet again the Zionists of Israel are killing the Gazan children. Over four days 3 Israeli dead and 90 Gazans. Estimated 39% are children. Whats started it? The Zionists assassinated a Hamas top official by the means of a missile strike on his car is the middle of a street in the most populated area in the world (due to the Palestinians being forced into one area by the Zionists through occupation, intimidation and murder).

Hamas then retaliated with increasing their missile attacks against the occupiers.
Did you know that Israel accepts that it has to put up with a certain amount of resistance by the means of rocket attacks by the Gazans due to what they are doing? And that 50% of the population in the most populated area of the world are children?

What other government in the world would just stand by while assassination by missiles were taking place on your streets? So why do the western media give the impression that it is the Gazans who started it? And make out that these children deserve to die because of the actions of Hamas, who at the end of the day is only trying to protect them from a occupier and murderer?

I beg you all. Please watch the Arab new channels and see what our leaders are allowing to happen and then allow your feelings to do what you can to show that you do not support the Zionists in their quest to full fill a prophecy that has no meaning in reality.

edit# I thought the thread STOP KILLING THE CHILDREN had been deleted but I found it, so please use that one if you want to post a comment as this one has already been cut in half due to its length. thanks Nix001 MOTHER NATURE CRYZ

while it is a sad thing to hear of the death of any child, there are so many things wrong with what you just said. First! Hamas is a terrorist organization run by a group of fanatic Islamist who hold dear to an ideology that says kill every Jew and christian in site. Wipe the state of Israel off the map! occupiers you call them? Israel is and has always been the Jewish Homeland! Given to them by God himself! after being driven out by the Romans in 70 AD the Palestinian ancestors moved in gradually over the following centuries. god, as Promised brought them back to there homeland, early in the last century. the Jewish people since then have time and again traded their land for a false peace that the Muslims lied about. and have been terrorizing them and the rest of the world since then. even yesterday there was another christian beheaded for his beliefs. simply because he left the religion of Islam. obviously we will find ourselves on opposite sides of the table in our beliefs where religion is concerned, but of those three religions Islam is the only one that holds to Brutal Murder as a tactic for conversion. the Jews and Christians would be willing to live in peace with Muslims. the Muslims will not! their ideology says convert to Islam or be beheaded. its awfully hard to be sympathetic to a group that holds those kind of beliefs.

Revelation 3:9
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

Quote from cutting edge.com:
'However, there remains one possibility before Israel gets to fighting her prophetic wars. It is possible that the United Nations might step in to claim her right of sovereignty over Jerusalem and post a strong international peacekeeping force in the city that would keep Jews and Palestinians apart. What sovereignty, you might ask, does the United Nations have over Jerusalem? Most people do not realize that Israel has long ago ceded control of Jerusalem to the United Nations, an international sovereignty that may be declared to prevent an all-out war and to build that "combination Temple/Church/Mosque" building called for in the New Jerusalem Covenant Project.'

Cutting Edge Ministries – “In accordance with the "New Jerusalem Covenant Plan", Israel has conceded control of Jerusalem and her holy places before negotiations with the Palestinians even begin!

The Rothschild's 500 million franc purchase of the Temple Mount and several thousand surrounding acres may be about to be brought into public view; however, great war will instantly break out when Muslims realize that the Illuminati controls the entire area!�

Shave,

Dont get upset.
nix is an idiot who returns to this issue time and again. He is a hate bully and his opinions are the most stupid ones you can find on this forum.

He would love to have all the Israelis dead and all Jews too.
Talking about the Zionists is the way of Anti-Semites to refer to Jews these days.
You can't say Jews so you say Zionists.

Much to his regret, the Israelis are doing great work.
They succeeded in destroying nearly 1500 targets without killing a huge numbers of civilians. Unfortunately, 30 civilians died in this action so far.
Every dead civilian is one too many and the Israelis repeated many times they try to avoid it.
Moreover, they are spreading millions of copies of messages on paper over the Gaza strip asking civilians to stay away from locations where missiles are launched or stored.
They send text messages to people in houses where the Hamas has offices warning them to leave.

Schools are used by the Hamas to store weapons and several attacks have taken place at night when the schools are empty.

There is no army in the world who ever done this before except for the Israeli army in previous wars.

The Hamas leadership sits in bunkers under two hospitals because they know that the hospitals will not be attacked.
They shoot their missiles from densely built areas to provoke counter attacks and have their own people die. This is good for their PR.

Hamas is doing nothing but targeting civilians and they are dancing in the streets when an Israeli kid has been killed (so does nix most probably). This is ongoing for 12 years and they will not stop they say, until Israel is destroyed.

Luckily for Israel, the Iron Dome system is intercepting nearly 90% of the missiles that are expected to land in populated areas.
More of these systems are being built, one was installed two days ago, and they prevented many dead and wounded. (Tough luck Mr. Idiot).

These are the facts.
Hamas is guilty of crimes against humanity in two ways.
1. They explicitly target civilians. This is their claimed target. Kill many Israelis.
2. They launch attacks from populated areas.

They are increasingly paying with their lives for these crimes and their leaders who do not believe in the 70 virgins story, live in holes in the ground but are killed in increasing numbers.

If you want to stop terror, kill the leaders. They really do not want to die.

Nazrullah (another friend of our Mr. idiot), from the Hezbollah in Lebanon sits underground for 6 years now and did not fire a single missile, not in the last 6 years and not now, to help his friends.

I agree with Shave and Romeo... how unfortunate for nix

keep on crying Nix! I guarantee you the Jewish people will never be removed from their homeland again. and I can also promise you this! before too long, and mark my words! the state of Israel will get a whole lot bigger! in the near future, Gaza will no longer be a home to terrorists! if the Jewish people have proven anything, its that their resolve will not fail. but its not them you have to worry about, its their God! those prophecies you continue to mock are about to happen weather you want them to or not. and judgment will be exacted upon the sons of Ishmael, Esau and any other Nation that comes against Israel. I suggest you turn to the real god and his mercy while you have the opportunity. the Muslims call him the Prophet Isa { may not be actual spelling lol } but he is Jesus the Christ! the only Begotten Son of the Living God!