ATTN: I don't post often, but when I do, I mean it.

Well, let me take all of you great up and new comers, free players, veterans, all alike, as players of this game back a year or so ago. They didn't have to give away accounts to fill their countries, There were always wars, and rivalries, Forum drama if a vet attacked a newbie, or an econ player, and one of the other vets that was around would always step up for those of you who are new when we got a little greedy with this thing that is now known as "declaring" C3's don't count as declares. The most fun part of this game, was the teamwork, was staying up and chatting together while at war with 20 other countries on 2-3 different worlds. Back when federations, and your 'swagger/earned respect/and intelligence played a roll.

Community/Ingame 'swagger/finance/rankings':

We have players that have been here twice as long as me, selling 92Million pop countries to new players or whomever will buy them for 200gc (since thats the base price, then are giving virtual asset coins back to them to give it to them for cheaper than the game actually will allow. which makes me sick to my stomach. a year ago, I remember a vet who left (SOON AFTER THE WAR LEVELS BECAME THE NEW SC)sold his main so a guy with real money in his pocket could become 'a HALL OF FAME player' and paid nearly 4000gc for it, for one month of being ontop of a world....

We have feds like Laguna's fed, like WGC, LDI (rip), The Mob, Wendy (she's a fed in herself lets be honest), scarlets fed, all of the great GR feds of the time period, that arent feds anymore, because, once we couldn't actually fight each other, whats the damn point. the actual community feeling has done the opposite of what this game has intended over this time period. What's left for us to do? attack our friends/ some foes back then that now you consider friends because all the time of no war game, no fed game, no strategy, we've all come to an agreement, upon one thing, and one thing only.


The game you think you enjoy to play for free, wasn't offered as freely then, You paid, you either kept paying, or you faught for earned time on your account via assets, and GC for registration days. and Game levels, War Rank 1/econ rank 1 players, and the ' top 10 of a world actually were respected and congradulated for not with the GC rewards (which back then we're only like 110gc) it was the respect of having, for instance me on LU, for 10 straight months held finance rank 1. People noticed, and began asking questions on how to make good money, their are players who are good at both, their are players (or were rather...players that is) that didnt give a crap about econ, and we're war lords, that we're either feared, respected, or you hoped for you're sake, we're on your side, or liked you, or even took time to help you.

It's hard to get people trained and in chat, because they enjoy the fun we have in there and how quickly they learn by asking, because though I may be logged in alot, but thats so they don't feel alone, I always mail their account if they left a message when I return. And the in game friendships and loyalty (and disloyalty *coughwendy* lmao)

All I'm saying is the game needs to evolve again, space yes its nice and all, but it's also highly expensive to own as much as some of us do, who can control the space market with just wealth, space is nothing, if someone destroys your empire, what can you honestly do? be a space pirate? or ' tradesmen in space ' WTF. it's called SimCountry, not SimEcon, not SimSpace...however im sure godaddy will sell you the URLS for those if you'd like them too. space worked well when it first came out, (as did automations, and initial player boosters, and a certain livelyness that most of you who actually read to this point or respond too, will agree, is gone. on all worlds...no 'elite federations, or (well i guess WGC is still here and huge but..what do they honestly do as a fed now days, the last war they had, 3 of the mob members pretty much bought a c3 on WG built up as best they could while declaring and ended up taking half of their fed out...(which should have been against all odds from the WGC history they used to defend very well.) oh wait, thats right, auto declares and war treaties dont work anymore with the stupid levels so pretty much, if you're a higher level, you get to sit and wait for someone to want to fight you to get declared, or have a member of your fed who is war level 3 declare them and you just play defense via air D or something..lol yeah, wow...


Sorry, I felt the urge to post this, I just feel Simcountry needs to reset the game to a year ago, and compare how many people actually would come back and play and how many new comers and free players, would become vets in years...to come.


I guess this is a rant, or perhaps my say it how it is statement for the current game, and what it used to be (which sounds like years ago, but really, only 18months or so ago..)


I just wanted to see, how many people would reply, or feel the same, or the exact opposite you know me, I just speak my mind and sometimes, that makes all the difference when you want something to change...

and SC..needs a huge game update again. (for the better this time)..


Sincerely,

Wild

+1

but wild, you are the game's downfall. got bored with you're rant after the first sentence. (yawn)

No It wasn't as if I acted alone. Hell, I'm sure people will say "yes I got a little greedy back then" at least then there were countries worth taking that werent you're fed memebers, or long time friends..


Heck It'd be nice to actually play the game again, whom ever you may be in hiding...

its people like you, that are the downfall. Not me.

I couldn't be bothered to care. I give most of my assets to new players, and helping them get started and interested. Funny how karma works out, if I am the so called 'downfall, to be the one, giving away countless GC's and Trillions of dollars to new players, not because of my conscious we all know I don't have one of those, nor a soul. lol, but because, I loved to play the game, not sit and decorate my countries and adjust settings to whatever is broken when the game does updates...

@Tom Morgan, appreciate the +1 ;)

itll be you're only +1 ;) i give you a -1000

Aww. If only I gave a damn about your point system, I got my point across, 'nuff said.

i'm with ya, like i even need to say so

gregg, you've got no idea. Shhh or I'll nuke you to the stone age.

See... I can make this game fun again!

Also, I think the player has a big part to play. Open a fed and poach as many newbies as possible. Leave for 3 months, and you have lots of fully grown players causing all sorts of horrors. And make use of the forums. Create interesting threads and encourage discussion on anything. This forum has been a little bleak recently. If we all promote a strong community, the game will retain more players.

Player numbers need to grow if the war game is to survive.

T

+100 to everyone but gregg (sorry, dude, but I think you're out of touch).

I think along the same lines as Wild. It was part of the fun to know you were always in jepardy of being taken out. It added excitmate to the game and gave incentive to learn faster.

+1

Wild eyes,

thanks for your contribution, for your support for beginners and for your worries about the game.
at least you care a lot.

It has been a bumpy ride for many experienced players and the ride continues because we have to make the game attractive for beginners and easier to play for them.

In the process, it probably became a little harder to keep huge empires but you could also say that the differences between starters and very large players may have become a little smaller.

In the past years we have also made it harder to kill all new players immediately after they started. This used to be a popular sport here and it is now quite hard to do.
This was a very important change that was hard to accomplish, involved many features and took some time.
Some of the early measures will probably be relaxed in the future as other changes, later, made the hunting of beginners quite hard.

Long time players are the group who generally dislikes changes because some of the changes have an influence on the profits they make. Also war levels, the higher ones, are not so easy. much harder than fighting a beginner.

But what we also see is a growing number of beginners who do understand what to do when they start, who are successful and who also become premium members.

We are now working on many more features and tutorials that will guide them through the initial steps and "force" them into higher levels, even into winning a war if they want to play the war game.

once all this is in place, there will be many more war features, resources game and missions.

We hope that long time players will stay with us. Simcountry is a game people play very long.
They will see new exiting features and we hope they too will like them.
but everyone should understand that simcountry must evolve, become easier and more fun for beginners too, and in the process, some old features will become obsolete and will be removed.

we do not have a shortage of features. we have enough. In my opinion, we just have some that are not relevant any more and need some fresh ones.

Andy, it used to be my sport, lmfao let's just be honest, between me and EO, and Pink and Barney, we we're pirates of the Caribbean back then. Had i known OUR actions, would have led to the war level acts, i would have slowed down to know what I know now...was partially caused by my greed, well that and, war has always been war, few actually know it. New players get cocky, and dont know what war is like fighting c3's..

That's why i've always wondered about you guys adding a feature for players like me, orbiter, crazyeye (who in general just love to war) and would probably all do it, as a err, "paid in GC per war trained" but i came up with this a while back and of course, it was ignored...haha...

Why can't we have 'trainers' and who setup training wars, with new players given, they want to learn it, and then at the end of the war, no matter who wins or loses, the countries like, reset to having all of their military assets back they had, cash etc..and perhaps an added +5T for training or whatever you'd even call it, I'd just call it fun, because tbh The War engine hasn't changed that much, just its rather hard to war and figure things out ourselves, to even help people who don't know the 'inner' mechanics of it, as in explain it to them, I miss the federation part of the game too, we vets who were once as one fed, already agreed to split off to seperate feds, (given 1 or 2 per fed) to train new players,

Andy I love you dear, but seriously, I used to use a kitchen timer to take them just to make it exciting. lol Now I've hardly bothered, sold off ALOT of my assets, to get some more vets, to come back and have more to give to new players..Even though they never write my name in when they register > But, it's okay I guess. so much for the 'affiliates' button. Or my ignored emails for me to just become the security council for you guys through chat, Do you realize, how annoying it is to have to go vote 100 times per day per world, when i could literally, just virtual asset it in 1second, which is what I did for quite some time, til I found those people soon left their after. so I've been a bit more picky in my selections.


I understand evolution, Look at me, lmao I think you did this as SC Rehab for players like me and Psycho Honey, and CE, Orbiter, etc. BTW, you guys still owe me 91K 250 quality navy fighter planes from the war on WG when orbiter and I nearly got our tails handed to us by an inactive with just 3 wing response... > but, I'm just giving you a hard time and you know that.


I'm excited for changes, but ones not as often like the old days would be nice, where we used to see Game news, and got excited about it. Don't think we're against change, but consistent changes, and seeing the effects on not just the new players, but ALL players, I've been trying to write up a finance guide for new players, so far I've revised it 31 times. (by revised, deleted, and started over. within the last 8 months or so. So, no Don't think I dislike change, I dislike my countries that held themselves together on their own, after god knows how long of setting it up, and to show up, and be in debt...with like, 20 indexes for health ed, everything, 1400 corps that we're ASQ'd selling things to corps, and countries, yeah, I'll be the first to admit, their were a few times I wish I could just declare you all for that. it's one thing when you have people with 200 corps, what about maestro, LG, me, Orbiter, Kitsune, Wendy, with massive CEO's and ASQ (given I and a few others were the only ones to use it) If you give us back 100 quality items, it will work better, and make new players more money If something economically would stay constant for longer than 30 days.

My once massive empire on LU is now 2 countries and 1 ceo. my WG empire, wiped out by the 3 wing response testings, and war setting changes, the whole purpose of FB...'fearless' has just turned to a place of memories, GR, has potential, once the garbage gets taken out ;)..*cough*


Anyway, Shortage of features, hell we have too many. I can't even keep up with them anymore haha. We have some that need to be consolidated into one feature, etc..

Transfers of all and any product should be allowed to be done through the empire menu...etc.. I'll stop there.


I knew I wouldn't get banned, as I'm not here to bash SC, im here to try to fix, what I feel as if, I am (certainly not souly myself) but played a large part in how its changed today.


The DT Market Andy..really.. :P come on, put that back together, Look at real world, Our government is printing us 100 dollar bills out of paper, when we're in 13 TRILLION in debt, (Not SC money) lol :P If the supply of GC, and or the DT market is completely now controlled by what the market price is ' set ' at, not what it natural arises too..seriously, not to mention supplying 100,000's of coins over the last 6 months or so, then just stop..that's like Obama saying, "hey..we're giving out 100,000 dollars to every person, then we wont have a government system, we'll officially change our party to anarchy, check you later America" Im sick of all the mails i've been getting, for asset loans, and or just hand me outs :P I don't get paid enough for that..haha (or at all)...


Glad you saw this as how I meant it, just alot of things i've not said, for a long time, and seeing HUGE empires disappear and great players disappear..I felt as if I had to say something

Since no one else was saying WHAT was going on, only yelling and cursing about it to you..I think most of us that are in chat very often, would rather be part of the solution the point fingers at you guys and cause more problems...

I'm pretty sure I caused enough problems in my time here.. Time to be part of the solution, besides we oldbies, are you're best ideas, all you have to do is ask, or send emails of ideas you have or something to a few of us, we'll tell you or even give input to the idea to make it easier for players/and yourselves...

Now, Get your arse to making Happy faced Game News Updates please, haha


<3

Wild


PS: Where is this 'greggwalken' disappeared too, just 'walken' away from his cause?..

*sorry guys, I couldn't resist.*

Wow, I hate your and You're..Im not even going to attempt to correct my grammar in my previous post.

-1 for me lol

Homerdome, clearly, Blaming andy for everything changing.. that's really going to help get a game we enjoy and love to play to work in our favor..That's like telling God his shirt doesn't go with his tie...


When you go after the GM, there is no, "I WIN HE LOSES" it's always, "****** Im banned or ***** why cant I do..." trust me seen it happen to too many, myself included in my 'Wilder' days.

Now I'll just train mini-me's with sharks with laser beams and such to take over my old role..mwhaha..

I would like to thank the vets for helping new players and giving me tips and instrumental assets. Wild, you are for sure one of the most hated players because of past actions, but to me, you are one of the most helpful and I appreciate your efforts and offerings. Keto has been another great vet that has made this game so fun for me. Chatting with you two makes things fun for me.

I see your point on the "community" of friends that can make this game fun with having to co-ordinate attacks during war and just plain getting together and having a group fun with something. I can see that part of the game is just about gone if not forever history. Discussions in chat about tactics, econ, strategies and the "leave my fed alone" type stuff is part of what makes me want to play.

We can figure out a way to bring something back in some way shape or form I'm sure. We just have to want to and actually try.

Thanks again,
Redman

Dearest Evil Sister,

I love the Avatar of you and that is by far my favorite. Since the game has changed so much, when people can find the time to play such in depth parts of the game like war and coallition raids, it must not be the same as back in your happy times. What can we do as players to make that fun again?

I can declare on you if you want. : P I am not sure how that would go for me. : P You would need all of your friends to help defend against me. Four "quad" air defense is nothing(whatever that means : P) against my QueenBikini over 18 but under 21 swimwear teams and pilots.

In all seriousness, with the game changes unfortunately we have to find ways to make it fun again. I have fun, I just do not have allot of time to play. Even with multiple emails to the gm's never being answered and being deflected away as spam without a second thought. I spent time on those emails and nothing. Just to be explained away as spam. Even with the master of deflection gms I still play.

I do not think that the gms realize just how valuable the vets are. You are the ones that help new players. YOu are the ones that shape how some of us play. You are the ones helping with monies if we crash and burn. You are the ones taking us in to your feds and teaching. You are the ones that offer up advice. You are the ones explaining the complex econ. You are the ones on chat. You are the ones doing all to "HELP" new players. IT is NOT the gms and it is NOT the game changes.

I have been shown neither the game nor the gms care about me in the least through past actions or lack there of. It is solely the players and the veteran players that have helped me. Vets actually answer my questions, unlike the gms who neglet to even respond.

Cheer up,
QB Yay!

Indeed, repeating the same baseless accusations does not help.

WildEyes,

Too much text and for me, unclear.
We discussed this before in mail messages.

We like constructive criticism because it is helping us to improve the game.
many features in the game are the result of discussions here and are based on players ideas.

However, we need it short and clear without the history and the "really" and the "Come on" stuff.
mails should be short, but on the forum, the messages should be even much shorter and very very clear or no one, including us, will not read them and for sure not understand what is actually meant.
"Bring us the past back" is what? THE past?

we are very busy here and decrypting a page of your text takes a very long time and then explaining it around here, even more and then we are not sure if we really understood the message.

Tom Morgon, go ahead lol You will nuke me to the stone age? Can't because of war levels!

My opinion is this. I was a former player in a solid fed on White Giant. Wild and her band of misfits chose to gang up and try to wipe my fed out. Several players left the game as a result of this, myself included. Wild has a history of game bullying as does Orbiter, EO, her whole band of misfits, who get real life egos built from some sense of power from a game. She and her fedmates wiped out players and ran paying players off. She really contributed to the game, let me tell you. Great for building the player base, kudos to Wild!!! Where are all these new players in the game? I see the same old, same old. She may have you small time players fooled, but I have been around for 7 years in this game. I know the history. I know this player. Lousy choice for a game moderator, lousy choice for anything to promote Simcountry.

I would like to add one more thing. I am also a strong advocate for Simcountry past, the day of federations and good natured fighting. Player misbehavior is what has ruined the game. Wild was a big component of this as was Orbitor, so his opinion doesn't really hold here. Maclean, don't know who you are, but as you don't know me, you can't really state what I know or don't know. I stand behind my opinions. I just find it rather amusing a player who so took away from the spirit of the game, advocating to rebuild it. It is she and her fed that prompted most of these changes to the war game to protect the player base or what was left of it. So please, continue to applaud her. You support the contributor to your present game, Simcountry, and your current complaints. BRAVO!

To QB - why are your multiple emails to the GMs not answered when Wild's are? According to a past post by Andy, there were no conversations between players and the GMs, except through game mail, despite claims of personal convos on chat clients such as skype, MSN and the such, but yet this one was awarded a Moderator position. I came back a week ago when one of my WGC mates told me this. I had to see for myself. I would almost see this as a smack in the face for any player. Makes me wonder. Does it you?

an interesting point to made about the changes of the war game.

i'm left really wondering where W3C is trying to go. I mean, i see the evolution of the war engine. But i'm seriously confused about the future of the war game.

the event that brought on all the changes... was when a large powerful fed, that dominated their planet, and was founded to help protect new players, (from the very newbie bashing mentioned above.) SO when a serious threat occurred... the game was changed prevent that... a larger fed, with more long term players, that bragged about defending themselves... some how it was wrong to attack such a group.

so what confuses me... is it seems if a player or group looses, it has become a moral issue, as to whether the war was "justified," ok, then when the game masters step in, and say its not fair for one group to beat up a larger sized, long term fed, with equally experienced players (years played,) that was found to protect newbs... it really makes me question W3C's entire concept of the war game.

READ THIS PART IF NOTHING ELSE

honestly, the sympathy, for defeated players, especially for long term players, out weighs any ones right to actually use the war features... i'm wondering how you plan to change that?

Orbiter, there were many ways that you and your game buds ran players from the game. Not just in war aspects. Game ethics maybe? or do none exist here? Chat bullying, forum bullying. I would advise any new player in the game to go back and read ALL the old logs of the game conversations. They are ALL in the forums for you to see. See the threats. See the ugly, fould names. See the misconduct of players. See who is doing it. Figure out who is good and who is bad in the game. Don't be suckered in by those who give you gifts, advice, countries, gold coins. Besides what they give you is what they have amassed from years of bullying and taking advantage of weaker and undefended players.

shrug

and the people that promised to protect the innocent... and built their power base around that... dramatically dropped the ball

ya, plenty of people willing to step up gather masses of new, and moderate players!! while promising them protection. then take the combined stats and brag about their military prowess. And even go so far a use these inexperienced newbs, to further their own political agenda. But don't you dare challenge them with a war dec... its not fair.

the fed i mentioned above, loosely fits into that mold.

as far as the "bullying," well, if we just setup, and attack, its an "ambush," so yes, we are REQUIRED to forum bash, to give your opponent a heads up, and entertain the bystanders. If you want to move away from the "uglyness," you need to give us an outlet.