Obama v. Romney

OKAY enough with the War people!! The only reason i mentioned all that stuff was to try to end a bunch of Accusations that mightve happened before they happened!! the War is not whats on trial here.

And Drew, Sorry for any misunderstanding on my end or caused on your end. in my attempt to shut it down I sorta pushed it further it seems lol

And @ Crafty not sure if youll get this joke or not but Nice "pair of Kinky Boots" you have there :P xD

Well some warmonger called Ron Paul a racist because he's against wars, including the Civil War.

A few people try to get to the root of problems and fix things and they get labeled racist, and for the stupidest reasons.

burger tax???? You implying we fat again????

lol crafty a burger tax indeed


Jojo's your an idiot not being a republican doesn't make you racist you myopic fool in fact the democratic and republican party's have switches sides in the last 200 years Republicans are now the more right wing rather then the democrats

Jojo, the repubican party of the 1800's is not the current republican party, that's just nonsense. As far as extending the simple rights and liberties to all Americans is a neccessity. Waiting for the process to happen naturally is the issue. I recognize fault on the timing of the northern states but you cannot defend the injustice of slavery. period dot end of story.

Jojo my issues with Ron Paul isn't that he's a rascist I believe any and all social issues will eventually sort themselves out as the will of the people. So the reason I'd vote for someone over another are the real issues at hand. I like the idea of increased nationalism with Ron Paul, and I like the social politics involved in the libertarian party. But money backed by gold and the desire to lower taxes, and 0 out corporate taxes, and give more power to the states is my real problem.

If this issue gets brought back up again, I will come with quotes, ok? I'm not going to retract him being a rascist but it really it puts it out there when the issue keeps coming up doesn't it.

So Jojo you seem pretty defensive, I take it you have the answers to my questions? cuz me thinks you don't

Tom,

Skimmed your reply. Bored me. Nothing to which I feel the need to respond. My initial post says it all.

Who's trying to defend the injustice of slavery??

The issue, Drew, is that you're calling someone a racist because they wish we hadn't fought a Civil War with horrific costs, first and foremost over 600,000 people killed.

Are you in favor of our country going to war today against countries that currently have slavery and forced labor? How millions of people would you kill, and how many billions of dollars would you spend? But if you're not in favor of doing so, that makes you racist and sexist by your logic.

NO! I'm against my own country allowing racial or discriminatory acts.

Other countries are none of our countries business, that doesn't mean I don't despise their actions.

When did I ever say we should go to war?!

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Now to be fair when Dr. Paul referenced the civil war quote he brought up the 600,000 deaths. If the civil war never happened however how many african americans would have been subjected to slavery? Related question, how many countries followed suit when we abolished slavery? (I know we weren't the first) SO STOP CALLING ME A RACIST!!!! I call him a rascist because he is a rascist, you call me a rascist because you're a dick. So stfu and stay on topic you dousche!

BUT AS I SAID SOCIAL ISSUES WILL CORRECT THEMSELVES NO MATTER WHO RUNS THE OVAL OFFICE. SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT RON PAUL BEING A RASCIST STAY ON TOPIC

It's the same issue now as then, except other countries instead of other states. Is it none of your business, or is it your business, if other people's laws and actions are morally repugnant? So if you don't think we should go kill people to end oppressions in other countries today, don't be so quick to condemn someone who doesn't think we should have done it 160 years ago.

As for Ron Paul's newsletters from the early 90's, yeah, that's a pretty bad attitude he had. He approved that stuff, even though he didn't write it, and I think he's rightfully pretty embarrassed about it today and has been for a long time. I like that he's skeptical about conventional wisdom on a lot of issues, but he's also not been skeptical enough of anti-mainstream viewpoints like racist and conspiracy theories.

So what's the topic? You're going to start calling out politicians who talk like that today as racists? Or if you agree with them on other issues then it's okay for them to talk like that a little?

@ Drew: Re: the civil War remark: His quote was taken out of context. What he was saying, is that it would have been better to have been able to resolve the situation without engaging in a fratricidal conflict which killed and maimed a sizable chunk of the entire U.S. population, and destroyed the South for generations.
you might also check out The Onion as a news source, if you feel that colbert is fair and accurate.

Look, I'll end the debate right now. It's Romney all the way or I'll beam you all wif shoes over and over and over and over again! lol :P

Furthermore, if Obama wins a second term, someone better make room for me to move to their home in their country...... Tom in Australia? Crafty in da UK? Bobo in Canada or Homer whereever he is!!! Now do y'all want me movin' in wif ya??? Better start supporting Romney now! ha ha ha ha

<-----I blame this guy for drews pain right now lol sorry bro... BTW racist doesn't have a 'sc' wouldnt have said anything but you constantly made that same mistake not hating on your spelling just trying to improve your communication so dont jump on meh lol

The south suceeded from the union, if China offered Alabama 1T$ to succeed and join China, that is an attack on the union. The states are run by the fed, so their are no state rights that are not subjected to the rules and guidelines held by the fed so it is an entirely different thing.

Why Romney Lorelei? I feel South Korea may need to open up some space for me if Romney gets elected.

why would you go to south korea that place is the epitomie of capatalist societal decline a very sad place if you ask me

Their sense of nationalism is sane, they have a strong sense of community, and are willing to make any adjustments to do what is best for the nation. Slightly more authoratitive but they do what is fair for their public, just maybe not what's fair for the rest of the world.

the question is are we better of 4 years ago than we are now, and the answer is yes. compare the financial situation during 2008 and right know its much better. i just hope they get that point across during the convention OBAMA 2012

Drew, I rarely vote democratic. lol I am more of a conservative. Honestly, of the republican possibilities, Romney wasn't my fav choice. BUT, I firmly believe Obama has done diddly squat, so to see him re-elected would be painful for me. Dun worry, I'll come visit you in So. Korea when you move there. (winks)

How ya been? You still keeping that hair short and you lookin' all spiffy? Good youngun! :-)

Shallom I like your outlook but its wrong, the only 2 questions are we going to do be better off in 4 years with Romney or Obama? And what are the long term implications of a Romney or Obama presidency?

I guess I can let it slide, vote along party lines Lorelei... You know you can dislike Obama and still vote for him, because you and I both know Romney will mess everything up. (I did say that very lightly with a very happy connatation btw) Yeah I'm doing good, being business Drew keeps my hair short, and flirting high. So I've been keeping busy getting into trouble. How about you, are you cleared for work yet?

My Father would kill me for going Democrat but... I do have to agree with Drew... Romney can't go into office Party aside (Of which i have no Affiliations)

well it is both questions, like lorelei said, "I firmly believe Obama has done diddly squat, so to see him re-elected would be painful for me" but if the democrats would hammer what Obama has done over the last 4 years and what he would do over the next 4 years it wouldn't be such a close election. because if they don't do that then people will just try something new.

oh and jojo, the paul ryan speech was so amazing! It's such a shame it was just a bunch of lies. I'll tell ya if the things republicans say were true they'd have 90% of the votes every election every year. 10% to Mickey Mouse of course cause people could throw away their vote more easily. But the sad fact is, there is just far too many lies. tsk tsk... But Paul Ryan's path to prosperity paired with Romney's plans can increase my income (if my math is correct) roughly 23%. Nice huh?

This election really worries me.

Hey Drew, Yes, I'm back at the dungeon as I call it, but gratefully so. This is my second week back and interestingly, I was swamped first day back! ha ha ha They did restrict me from any filing for a month. I'll have to get that extended, as I hate it. Still have issues with pain/nerve and muscle.

I had some beautiful flowers awaiting me my first day back and people from several areas here have come to see me. Even received some hugs from some cute young fellas!!! Hey Now!!! ha ha ha ha Now I'm looking forward to Halloween!!! Planning a divisional party. <--My work priority. I'm head of special events.

Good to hear you are doing well and you are still lookin' all sharp and professional! lol And what about all this flirting???? Tsk tsk!

Stay in touch. Since my home computer has crashed, I won't be posting as much...... Do I hear cheers in the distance???!!!! SCOWLS ha ha ha ha

Muahs and Shoes!

Drew, your post is full of lies. Except for the first and last sentences, it's all lies.