VOTE: Remove/change the War Level System (Kebir Blue)

and @ Maestro about the continent Refer to my long post. shh. See before you were around we actually had ' un written' boundaries for instance, people knew where they shouldnt go unless they wanted to train or die... i mean usually a new neighbor before war levels ment, Im declaring..it before it builds up more, no worries anymore though. but the point is, players like you could learn warm and actually have fun, instead of constantly IPOing corps. I mean seriously, Ida quit week 1 if thats all I did here.

Yes Maestro, because I use the DI to satisfy game level requirements. I have 3 countries on GR, plenty enough for me. Dont need to take on more C3s.

You also forgot to mention I am war level 3 everywhere else. Half truths are as bad as lies. You become more an object of loath with every post you make.

True dat Wildeyes, but again. Reality is that people should be able to choose when and where they want to fight. Once they jump above the level 3 threshold, fine.

And another alternative to please some folks if w3c is in the business of people pleasing, Give them the change they want. Reset everyone to War Level 0. Change level 1 and above as fair game. Remove the c3s moving you up war levels automatically.

Then everyone can stop crying(for a week) about level 3 being too restrictive. No one is abused by being thrown into the war arena. Zen can have his immunity back. And we can all live with the choices we will then make. Case closed.

Honestly, war levels have nothing to do with the problem. The problem is that you people cannot live w3ith another persons choice to not want to fight.

Remember when I would declare endlessly with c3s, many of you war players didn't think that was fun, because you couldn't turn it off when you were done fighting. I could go as long as I wanted. If that was a problem, I don't see how people declaring on levels 2 and 3 for your own enjoyment isn't a problem as well.

But there is a "we all win" solution above. Reset, change the requirements and enjoy.

You should all re-read my posts. Then read them again.

@CC

92% of the players in the top ranking on GR are at level 0,1,2 and you are one of them. I fould this ironic.

I noticed you were at war level 3 on KB today when I was doing that list. Only 5 players are 3 or higher on KB world in the top 100 list.

@Wildeyes/CC

Agreed the top 100 list isn't the full game picture but it's a good gauge of player interest.

Currently player interest is blowing the econ way.

I hope the gamemaster will take note of these statistic and put some more engineering hours into econ upgrades.

And perhaps a war continent for us Econ players to play in.

Cheers from New York City,

Maestro

On the contrary, Jojo, days of our lives is a prime example of the construction and violation of inter-subjective structures every bit as silly as those that crop up in SC. Given the GM's propensity to change the mechanics of the game as of late, I find myself watching such drivel to maintain SANITY.

Doesn't quite make sense.

...are we comparing this thread to a soap opera?

Jojo, surely you don't really think she watches that crap >_>

This thread is a dead end. I started a thread "War on FB", check it out and see if it has any merit

Sorry, didn't mean to distract.

Personally, although I think p vs p and fed vs fed fighting is the best aspect of this game, I think that Maestro and Wendy/AC have some good points that can't be ignored.

Kolenski your thread is a dead end as well. Nice hijack though. Very valiant effort.

Let the thread die! Argue folks, argue. Haveing fun?

Actually, keep this thread open to break the record.

Actually, I'm going to sincerely apologize to Kolenski. I mistakenly spoke too soon. Sorry Kol. Your ideas on putting this all back on track are right up my alley. What planets do you play on?

Hey Appreciated Customer, did you get my apology?

Ja, Kommandant

Cool, thanks.

Thread dead.
Unless Maestro decides to start harping on about 'continents' and 'wind blowing in favour of econ' psychcotic energy-drink-induced, profit-enhancing, econ propaganda.
Oh, and this was all AFTER he has stated he will never post on this thread again. Again.
Cheers,
T

The numbers don't lie.

If everyone else is done them I'm done as well.

Cheers,

Maestro

Hmmm....lets see...this is what was put up for public vote:
It has become apparent that the 'failed experiment' that is the war levels has not only killed the war game but the community of SimCountry. IMO the war levels need to go. Doing so would revive the need for federations, bring in new players and boost the demand for weaponry (thus the world economy) in all of the worlds.
Vote yes to revive the greatest game on earth!
Vote No to see it slide further into the abyss.

Result: 40 for
31 against

I guess that means it passed

THOSE numbers don't lie, and I'm not even close to being done with it

Regards, EC

war level 1-7 can PvP war
Level 0 is econ mode.

Supersoldier's right everyone, but I think it should be applied to all worlds and this is probularly the closest thing we're going to get solving these silly war levels, only if the GM can even be bothered to acknowedge this.

I say that once a level 0 (economic) player wins his first war, I think he should automatically be promoted to war level 1, then that way he will be forced to get into the real world and not escape the possibly of being attacked by another player of this game and not hiding behind closed doors for example, Like those large 10 country empires at war level 0 that can never be attacked just like what Maestro's empire is on little upsilon.

It sounds like the war levels is a loophole for the rich rather than trying to protect beginners.

Or we could make economic warfare easier. Like reduce sharply or eliminate the costs of buying/moving corps. Bringing back automatic IPOing of corps, (anyone remember when very sucessful corps IPOed themselves?), and other nefarious schemes that can be cooked up. Poor maestro wouldn't last long as he has made himself such a target. Respect for the community must be enforced now I believe, people are just too selfish nowadays to do it under their own morals.

Kolenski..from the looks of where your putting your countries..your SC empire looks like a dead end.

Just a waste of your time, and money. Why not at least learn how to sneak up on people you'd like to declare..instead of boldly just moving next door. Which I dont mind I've been sick for a while and am setting up finally anyway, but dont expect much from anything on LU, its war level 0 until I decide or see a reason for it not to be. so when you happen to look around and see, there is really nothing you can do but be my Mr rogers and wear sweater vests, your welcome to MSN me or msg me, and see just what is your deal, and what it is your after... and as for Crafty: I fully agree, since we cant really fight on any standpoint people like *cough* Maestro *cough* we should be able to have economic warfare brought back, and boycotts (reworked to be more severe and easier to accomplish) though a limit on debt bombs I still think is fair. I mean, if someone honestly looked at IPOs and how we have to do them, and how to cheat the system.. etc. Why not just make a page for it to be done on. Hell I've been waiting 3 years on a 34/0 vote on being able to transfer ALL products between your empire not just military up to the set limit, seriously, I have to first DT it to the country, then it pays money, then go back and transfer that money back (in theory), and CC I'd love to do the massive buyout thing we tried on wendy which sure gave her cash but wendy didn't we get like 30 corps or something out of your main in one swoop? It looked much better on paper though..I promise. Lol