Ukraine mobilizes after Putin's 'declaration of war'

Cant believe that no one has started this thread. So the question is are the Russians being to aggressive or are the neo nitwits in the Ukraine ? Could be both

For sure both Moscow and Kiev are being unreasonable. It doesn't help that Ukraine banned Russian as a language especially considering that almost a 1/3 of Ukranians speak it. I've noticed some interesting parallels between this situation and the stages leading up to ww2. When Hitler invaded Czechslovakia and claimed that it was to protect German interests in "sudentland." Anyways, Putin's attempts at recreating the Soviet Union will fail...hopefully.

Ukraine never banned the Russian language. They repealed/removed a highly controversial law enacted in 2012 by the former President they had just removed that made Russian (along with Romanian and Hungarian) an official language in some provinces.

They reverted back to having Ukrainian as the official national language and that was it; no official province languages.

Yes your right, Ukraine Parliament voted Ukrainian the only official language, I missed my facts...nevertheless a full military mobilization undoubtedly heightens tensions

this is so much fun to watch, talking human monkeys trying their hand at war, while a real warmonger has the finger on the button, hmmmm one should press it just to frak the americans off

I'm going to sell both sides some ammo from my country over here on Fb I think Putin plays sim.

I think Putin may have seriously overplayed his hand and that may be pushing him toward a dangerous resolution. Talk of a flashpoint is not totally unreasonable.

@ roving eye: Rofl!

IMHO,the russians must act for the sake of humanity against nato & it's fascist dogs..

Many people i know are praying for them, once they're finish in the east perhaps
a few wives & kids of the now deceased berkut officers, who lost they're lives in petrol
bomb showers & shootings.. can have a closed door "meeting" with the woman who caused
what may lead us all into WW3!


- Mrs Victoria Jane Nudelman

Its all to do with de-stabilising the world so the Zionists can re-take Jerusalem without any committed opposition. Its the same for all these recent so called revolutions.

There have always been conspiracy theories and there always will be. From time to time they may even be true. But, one mistake often made is to see pattern where there is no pattern and to presume that a nation state is a unitary actor with a unitary purpose. Keep in mind that when we refer to "nation-state" we actually are referring to a vast number of specific variables. Individuals (powerful and not so powerful) form the basic units of the nation state. Some of them, like Putin himself have a great deal of influence, but there are also lots of other people who have influence too. The public perception, the market speculators and buyers and members of the army have all had an influence. The leadership of other nations and the media have also had an influence. They don't all see eye-to eye. Even internally, people are generally chaotic and have competing motivations in their own heart. People have families, they have homes and they must live with the consequences of their actions. They also have flights of fancy, hallucinations and grandiose ambitions. There is not one single narrative leading us one way or another. The narrative itself is a construction of the biological entity seeking to make order out of chaos. We frequently get it wrong and I suspect that those who see a larger conspiracy here are also ignoring the very obvious.

Crimea was Russian. It was handed over to The Ukraine in 1954 by Krushev. If the rumours are true, he was actually drunk when he made that decision. One motivation may have been appeasement; another is the official line from that time that it was simply an administrative action. The people of Crimea speak Russian, many are Russian citizens and Russia has a strong motivation to protect them. We are far from beyond such motivations.

I understand where you're coming from @Craigwilliamson, i just feel things are so hot right now there is no hope of deescalating tensions
this time as some in the past were able to do..

Speaking of Krushev alot of this mess started with him, hell some would say america gained it's super power advantage over moscow in part
if not solely because of krushev.

Still i feel war is coming, the american foundation has all but been destroyed, people at home living off food stamps
or working for slave wages, Nsa spying, judges replacing state laws without peoples consent, cops killing family men just cuz..

Then look at the EU they're doing real bad a young person can't even find decent work, germany decides who eats & survives day to day..

Russia has alot of problems they're growing tired of being Hades/underworld superpower they see china & japan along with the eu/us
getting all the praise & spotlight from it's tech advantage or larger airforce or naval might etc, so they decided to make one last stand
knowing by doing so it is Do or Die time for them.

Russia does not have time on it's side another 4 years america will supply the EU with oil & gas, china's currency will be greater then the us
japan will still be making gains in tech or warfare, but what will russia honestly have left to offer the world in the next ten years?

Answer not a dammn thing & putin knows this so he must & will start WW#3, can't say i will miss much about this place.

To speak of patterns, there are a lot of related patterns that are never spoke of or revealed to the general public in such matter. There are things about Russia we simply do not know, but Putin and his KGB ties are a forefront of secrecy and a key to this conflict. This is more than meets the eyes and I am not going to make comment on Zionist and such, but will simply state watch Crimea and watch Syria. The main goal is undisputed access to the Black sea and 2 key Russian military bases. I do not think Russia is bluffing and I think one should not underestimate Russia and their underground programs. Red, I think this is their plan.. Take the heat off them for decades, so they can grow with out constraints then pull them back in once they are ready or forced to act. Putin is the person to do it and I am sure that he will capitalize on it once the conditions are met to his liking. I am American, I do not like what my country is/has become. Sorry that history took a nation from what it was to now, without considering more than just the here and now. I think Russia wanted America to grow out of proportion and now they are moving to destabilize it more. Russia wanted out of the spot light and that is what they did. Underestimation is the worst of all war mistakes made. I think that is a problem that Russia will not have in the beginning of this, but like WW2, the long run will be the determining factors. Yet the players have changed a lot since then. Russia maybe forced to do more like Red said. It will be a political dance for a bit then we will see where it goes. I do not think it has to be do or die and I don't think Putin is going to take die. He is a closed character, but I sense a lot more from him then what is broadcast, they are masters at propaganda just like China.

I haven't forgotten about Georgia in 2008.

Someone needs to call Russia out in Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia.

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Man, what I wouldn't give to see some internal RT News staff e-mails right now. Got to love Liz Wahl (she's kinda Hot too)

what i find interesting, is the western powers declaring the up-coming segregation election illegal. imagine that, the "champions," of democracy declaring an election illegal, because they like things the way they are, rather than letting the local people decide, or find a way to ensure that its honest, with out coercion.

says something about hanging chads, and thousands of voters, voting from beyond the grave, about our amazing 2 party system, that makes it difficult for other ideas to come into power, and to basically tell the population what they should believe and value, while constantly restricting the public's right to bear arms. things are getting kinda scary, aren't they?

MotherNature Cryz shared a status.
7 March
The Crimean situation on the state of the Western mind. Yea.....lets do it.
The Russians can't allow the USA having the Crimean naval base. It was a good try by the USA but there gonna have to find another one. Well I say USA but who i really mean is their Zionist rulers who are creating chaos so they can accomplish their mission of being once again 'Gods chosen ones' which they can't achieve until they have their capital.....'Jerusalem' ......which they will and are taking by force and murder. They will carry out the self-full filled prophesies of out of chaos comes peace. But for them its out of chaos comes blindness so then you can get away with things you wouldn't normally get away with.
This has been 3000 years in the making and now they are just moving their final pieces into place.
So Mother Natures 300. A bonus to Committing to protecting Mother Nature is that it will keep your soul positive and keep your mind focused, thus allowing you to keep calm and not allow the bad actions of a few to influence your mind into thoughts of despair and loss of hope.

Can we stop it? No.

Should we fear it? The amount of Toxins that are gonna be released through these wars that are all around us are gonna be horrific for Mother Nature and our children (buy gas masks, I have mine) So yes we should fear it as without fear you do not put into place the mechanisms to deal with what your sub-conscience is telling you to deal with.

Can we help reduce the impact of the chaos? We can beg to Israel to learn from the teachings of Jesus and forgive the actions of Man 3000 years ago.

Phew....

I always wear my ass mask

Nix, Israel already has possession of Jerusalem and rightfully so... I prefer that historical city in the hands of a developed nation than in the hands of an unstable, extremist, Islamic State (search up what the Taliban did in Afghanistan)... Russia will lose this conflict and sent to their corner with hungry stomachs. I can't agree with Red more on Russia seeking attention it lost two decades ago.

The only ones who will lose I'm afraid are the democratic people of Ukraine... Talk about being between a rock and a hard place... The former KGB officer on one hand and the Neonazis of the new regime on the other. Not much of choice isnt it?

Aussteigen so by ur logic its totally fine that if ur a citizen of country X and country Y comes in and forcefully holds ur land claiming that they have higher status than u and u cant run ur country properly??

"Israel already has possession of Jerusalem and rightfully so",the only right by which israel is holding jerusalem is by murder and force and nothing else. u know it , they know it , we know it.

Not sure its murder when they are defending them yourselves

*themselves

lol this is funny food stamps.... NSA.... Fascist NATO then nix comes in about Zionists and toxins poisoning mother nature prophecies and neo nazis

"constantly restricting the public's right to bear arms. things are getting kinda scary, aren't they?"- josias

yes because America is known for restrictive gun laws Oo


some of you see the world in a very interesting way please continue

especially you redcoo4