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W3C - Some news, preannouncement

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Tom Willard (Little Upsilon)
31 May 2011 08:32 Link
One fully upgraded FMU corporation with a good welfare index is producing enough for an average of 9-10 fully upgraded corporations.

Nuclear power corporations deliver electric power.
there is no Nuclear electric power. The output of both types is electric power.

we plan to add other power generating company types but they will all generate electric power.

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There is no problem with FMUs or any other product. If we reduce the need for FMUs we will need to re-balance the corporations and other products will be used more.

The base of the economic model is the balance between the total income and money to spend, and the use of the money.
if there is more money around for products than the total of all products produced, we get shortages.
if "the people" in the countries will spend less, there will be structural overproduction. product pricing will decline and many corporations will bankrupt.
We are checking this balance all the time. We are not in control on a micro level. we can try to make corrections if it goes off balance but effects of what we try to do take time to materialize.
It is like turning a large tanker. You can turn the wheel but the tanker will not turn until some time later.
Currently, there is more money to spend than product to purchase. one way to make the model more stable is to allow for higher pricing which will reduce the amount of product you can purchase.
we have prepared some measures in the past year that will allow us to remove some limitations, and allow for more flexibility, opportunities and some disasters as a result of shortages.
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white darkness (Little Upsilon)
31 May 2011 16:17 Link
Warfreak ~ The FMU corporation isn't that extreme. Not a 1 to 1 situation. I'm perfectly in line with Tommi on the approximate 9 to 10 when fully upgraded.

I've actually been surprised/impressed to see people being a little more diversified. I was discussing cutting costs on a shuttle corporation with someone recently and was shocked and awed to find they'd built a wood corporation.

Nuclear power isn't dead. It's just different. Take the 16,637,502 shortfall at the moment on Little Upsilon. :) I love nuclear power and when it was introduced I jumped on to that bandwagon asap. I haven't checked yet, to see if I can set things up so some is automatically ordered every month (I remember you used to not be able to do that) and it is slightly annoying that you have to buy it and then it converts to electric power, so you can't get it directly to the corporations. But that's just a couple of extra clicks when you want it. The difference between the two is because of the extra clicks, most of us are lazy. Minimum effort, maximum benefit.

Tommi ~ killing the "magic bullet" of the FMU corp would be one thing that would address your point of the balance between income and money to spend. If the shortfall on those things disappeared and that price sank from where it stays bumping against the ceiling towards the base price, there'd be a lot of people having to realign their entire methodology. Since they're dependent on that ceiling.

Now the thought of "disasters" in regards to shortages, has me interested. Since actual production halts due to shortage would be a "disaster" in and of itself, it would force a realignment massively, and if it allowed for a determined individual to monopolize because others aren't paying attention...though once someone squeezed with a monopoly successfully, people would be howling for blood. Economic warfare at it's finest. :)
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white darkness (Little Upsilon)
31 May 2011 18:22 Link
Just rechecked, and there is no nuclear power monthly auto-order. Oh well. :)
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white darkness (Little Upsilon)
02 Jun 2011 23:09 Link
And I was just blessed with my first production halting shortage today.

Strangely, I'm happy. :)
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alan watt (White Giant)
02 Jun 2011 23:17 Link
WD, simple answer is to stockpile fMUs in your country. It's my strategic stockpile, I just dipped into it and my corps are producing just fine through the shortage.

Of course if everyone does this than the problem gets worse lol
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jambu mr jambu kick (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2011 00:01 Link
sorry frenzz...
i have many problm!!!!!!!!
u all jangan marahkan i.....
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warfreak (White Giant)
03 Jun 2011 00:36 Link
I stockpile at least 200k FMU in my main country, and about 100k in my slaves. Mainly because it is cheaper for me to order over my corps, and well, strategic stockpile, like my stockpile of strat bombers.
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white darkness (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2011 02:14 Link
FMUs don't stop production. You run out, nothing happens but your operating costs start to rise. The FMU is not important.

I'm sure almost every player is stocking them, but me. I don't care. I want them to surplus, and the price for those POS's to go down. They're the black hole we're going to have to deal with.

Now that gold shortage I had, that was important.
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warfreak (White Giant)
03 Jun 2011 02:48 Link
Players are stocking them, we all know that, even still, FMUs aren't being supplied enough via factory production, factories don't cover them all.

And it isn't stocking them that is the problem, I don't want my corps ordering 185Q FMUs when 100Q would do.
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alan watt (White Giant)
03 Jun 2011 04:45 Link
Production halting shortages in computer countries and others is probably the only thing that keeps the FMU shortage from getting exponentially worse. And of course the obvious interventionism.
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Tom Willard
03 Jun 2011 09:45 Link
The only way FMU price can go down is if more people will build these corporations and there will be an oversupply.

The number of corporations increasing but not to the level that we can make FMUs "normal" products and have corporations stop on a shortage. This will eventually happen but will be announced several weeks ahead of time and repeated every week.

Realignment should take place all the time. We cannot wait for a disaster which is the point when shortages become very severe and thousands of corporations close.
It is then very difficult to restore the economy.
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Crafty (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2011 19:36 Link
Perhaps the game level at which a player can build FMU corps could be lowered a level or two to allow more to be built by newer players.
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
03 Jun 2011 20:44 Link
Is there where I will find SC's version of Robert Peston?

I want some sim antics. Failing that L'd settle for semantics.
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
03 Jun 2011 20:45 Link
*Is this where
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Border C (Little Upsilon)
04 Jun 2011 01:34 Link
Unless Robert Peston is a flaming troll or asshat, mooooooost likely not your best shot.


~Trolling Asshat
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Crafty (Little Upsilon)
04 Jun 2011 15:18 Link
Hey, Border Collie, they dont make hats big enough to fit your ass, hahahahaha

Though you probably live in a swamp under a bridge like a troll.

P.S. Did you get that job as a monkey on the Mars mission?

CC, Press officer, Asshat Patrol.
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GameMiser
21 Aug 2020 15:03 Link
Can MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF SECRETLY STORED SELENIUM be dumped onto the World Market or Space Stations to make a Very Large Profit??

Sorry, your spending limit been reached for this month.
The remaining credit for this month is 144,800 SC$.
You cannot buy another ton.

Wait until next month.

Is this boring mercantilism?
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Zentrino
21 Aug 2020 18:32 Link
This resurrected a really old thread to ask a questions. Fun times.
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John Galt
21 Aug 2020 18:57 Link
Man I was about to buy a ton of weapons grade uranium, then I saw the date lol.
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Gaz
21 Aug 2020 20:31 Link
I get a blast from seeing all the old names. I recognise many
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The_Wicked_Lady
22 Aug 2020 02:39 Link
Yeah, these folks go back to my heyday time in the game. I miss them all. Wish they would come back!
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Andy
16 Sep 2020 23:09 Link
I just sent a message in the game to an old player.
it will trigger an email message.
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Gaz
17 Sep 2020 14:37 Link
Which player?
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Andy
17 Sep 2020 17:58 Link
Warfreak

arbitrary. Just wanted to try one.

you are welcome to send them messages.