U.S and Israel to attack Iran soon

ok my honor has been insulted I must destroy you

hmmm I don't know how to qoute posts so this will be annoying

"The US and Israel plan to attack Iran. I think its stupid and they are playing little war games but how do you feel?"

you do not know if they are planning to do anything I doubt you are the president or someone of importance in fact I doubt if you have even hit puberty yet there is some talk about it during debates that you probably watched with your mother and you know nothing at all about these threats so don't make any judgements on what is smart or stupid you are probably not educated in these things weather it be diplomacy espionage or military so please stop tainting the air....IT IS NOT A LITTLE WAR GAME SC is a little war game this is real life with real nukes and its serious shit just shows your immaturity

True. The US is a bully too. I give Iran alot of respect for standing up to the US

again I doubt you know anything of the geopolitical situation and what would Iran be standing up to the US for??? idk there goal is simply to destroy us and Israel in some manner they are not standing il for anything good...idk maybe nuclear winter maybe they simply have a nationalistic vendetta against us like the kind you would see in 20th century Europe maybe all this hate for us is simply propoganda given from the leaders to the populace so the populace allows the leaders to continue to lead not to uncommon in a dictatorship.

No i agree with Yankee. If we attack Iran with no reason (like we r trying to do now) then Russia and China are going to come to Irans aid. But if Iran attacks any one of the US's allies then we should attack them

again we are not engaging atleast in my limited knowledge albiet greater then yours in any combat operations against Iran it is all talk right now...AND NOT FOR NO REASON they have nukes and they are a threat and idk if Russia and China would go to their aid probably not militarily and if Iran attacked an ally or us would it change anything? you don't know and nethier do I....so if they nuke us or our allies....whatever....well just attack them...millions will die...eh...its called a preemptive strike a very important strategic maneuver I don't want to live in a world where there's an unstable country that hates me and has nukes the Pakistan and India situation is bad enough how many more problems can incompetent politicians handle btw you just agreed with someones sarcasm full heartedly kind of awkward maybe stupid

Yes but wouldnt Iran want to take US off the map since they hate us and they know we will back Israel up

yes so that's why we don't want them to have nukes...so your also American basically hating on your country and premoting those that want to kill us...you realise that those terrorists (or In drews terms the people that hate us) probably laugh at how stupid we are for being so naieve...think about it

Yeah let Iran build nukes. If every other country can how come Iran cant? Since the US has nukes how come Iran cant have them? The US has over 200 nukes and couple hundred deactivated. Iran knows if they nuke Israel its going to be suicide



not everyother country has nukes in fact most don't because most country's don't want to kill out a whole country in a genocidal racist rage....the US can have nukes 1 because we invented them and 2 because we don't have a nsrcissist genocidal dictator bent on destroying Canada or something while Iran does except they want to destroy Israel suicide it seems to me that Muslim extremists actually favor suicidal destruction as a form of demise they get to go straight to heaven with the 14 virgins or whatever it is it would probably go down in their history as the greatest act ever or something


Shut the hell up and drop dead bitch

try responding to my posts with something that resembles a reasonable argument perhaps try to change my mind

for everyone please refer to my last post it seems many believe that Israel and the US are bullys and that means Iran deserves nukes this is simply false and I would love to debate it with anyone and everyone this is a serious threat and it saddens me that Americans and other westerners are so immune to the dangers that surround them wake the fuck up many of these people are serious threats to us the world and themselves much of it has to do with the Americas and European imperialism in the area but it is still a threat and while I do support a change in foriegn policy in the area we cant just close our eyes these people have grown up in a different world then us and part of that world is hating us we are the great Satan how can we let the people who call us the great Satan and want to wipe a whole country off the planet obtain nukes it is quite simply a moral wrong...for those of you who want us to return to a cold war state with people who are more irrational then Stalin fine lets have another go the cold war wasn't that bad was it....just the threat of global destruction ever imminent and looming....whatever I'm going to live in Alaska

Yankee I awknowledge Israel's military supremacy it is not all on us but you cannot refute the fact that if all of the hostile middle east teamed up like they say they will and with the extra backing of nukes....Israel would be in trouble and many would die

If China and Russia, and the middle eastern states all team up, were fucked. To put it lightly

Lol im moving to canada if this happens lol

that's all you have to say after my long argumentative post I would say I was surprised but I suppose its the typikal fashion of someone like you

Ehh im just going to ignore. Forget about what we said. Im done fighting. Im sorry. And i apologize to NATO. I want to move on from this. I want to start a allience with NATO.

this has nothing to do with NATO and I doubt many want to be associated with you...you know because you left and then disparaged our reputation along with your degenerate friend megnotata

As it does have something to do with NATO. Me and micheal dont even talk anymore. Not sure y but we dont. Anyways if the allience is accepted with NATO i will ban myself from declaring war on a president (unless it is absolutely nessary)

this topic has nothing to do with NATO if you want to talk about an alliance message Constantine

Ok, This is my opinion. Im a Christian so i believe in the prophecies. I believe that WW3 will get started but be ended before any major damage happens. There will be a peace agreement over seen by the antichrist, who will fool many into believing hes a man of peace, then 3 1/2 years into it, he will break it and WW3 will resume resulting in millions, possibly billions of deaths. But lets put that aside for now since not everyone agrees with the Christian views.

My opinion is the US and Isarel are bullies, in a sense. Because were the world super power, we pretty much do as we please. Thats the way the Middle East sees us, thats why most of the world and even our own citizens hate their own country.
But we, at least in public keep our noses clean. If this Illuminati shit is real, and trust me, The Iranian President is a big time conspiracy theorist.....then yea..were the big bad wolf that wants world domination and thats the way Iran and most of the middle east view us. So in a way i can understand the "dont tread on me" state of mind that the middle easterners have.

However, Iran has pledged to blow Isarel off the map. Thats not the words a man of power in charge of a country should use. Thats childish and damn right dumb. If thats your goals, then at least dont say it then expect the world to be ok with it. In a sense i think they should be allowed to feel secure theirselves and with all the countries around them having nukes, i feel they should have theirs too. I mean in this very game...if a Security council voted to restrict me having Nuclear weapons, but my enimies had them and could use them on me, i would be pissed too! We all would. But if i said imma gonna get some nukes and blow all of you up, i have only myself to blame. Cus DUH!, tell me your gonna shoot my ass and see if i dont make sure you get a gun. Tell me your gonna spray my house full of bullets and see if i dont take it lightly. I would probally even try to kill you first if i took you really seriously. Which leads me not to blame my country for wanting to pull off a pre emptive strike, thats just my own rational thinking if im told im gonna be shot.

I guess im kinda on the fence about this. I see both sides of the story and see both have a valid point. But in the end since Isarel isnt outright vowing to destroy Iran, and Iran is, i would probally back America if i was a foreign country asked to choose a side.

However i do believe America and its little brother so to speak Isarel are bullies who think its their way or no way. I could argue all day over posting shit about the things we both do to the rest of the world starting with the invasion of Iraq. We went there for so called WMD's and the rest of the world knows were after the oil. We invaded a country causing billions in dollars and thousands of casulties over damn oil and lie saying its to topple a radical regime. But at the same time we should had helped those people because a super power of the world has a responsibility to help people who cant help their selves.

Libya, they were threatening to use their own currency and gold to market their oil and that was a bad mistake. Thats another example of the western world bullying countries who cant defend themselves, i know Libya was toppled by rebels but the US most likely set that up. The middle eastern riots, all of it. No i cant proove it, but others have theories. The man wasnt that bad from what i hear. He offered very good healthcare to his citizens. But i dont live there and know what he was like so i cant judge what should had been done.

I do find it odd that we never invade countries who's main export if cabbage or tomatoes. Its always countries rich in oil. Thats something to ponder on.

But the religion they view as evil shouldn't have a secular country as a target. We have freedom of religion yet half of our appointed politians violently push judio-christian values. This wouldn't even be enough to invoke their rage if we didn't supply Israel with all of their weapons. Since we do it allows them to continue to bully palestine. Now i'm pretty confident you may not all understand middle eastern politics fully, so briefly. Iran has president akmed dijinijad. He works like a prime minister then 5 of the big countries have Ayetolohs or religious leaders of their respected countries which works like the queen or king. President makes decisions but ayetolohs like nooo.... don't do that. Then the ayetolahs hve a supreme ayetolah that picks the others, so if they don't like what is happening he'll replace them. So any injustice done onto any muslim nation is an injustice done to all of them. So if we enable Israel we piss off the supreme ayetolah. We have freedom of religion though our government is picking sides, it is OUR OWN fault. Not us US citizens but the garbage we elect that decide to assist these "satins." Even those these "Terrorists" don't need any more of a reason to hate us, we armed Iraq many years ago to fight Iran, to settle a problem with Russia. So how can you justify the actions of the United States. to reference the gun rights thread we can't outlaw guns because if people breakin you need to be able to defend yourself. What makes it right for American citizens but wrong for muslims?

every county that has nukes is a threat to the world iran just happens to be one of the greatest threats and its not childish to say I'm going to blow up Israel its insane demonic racist and on par with a certain Nazi genocide called the holocaust again it is morally imperative that we don't allow insane destructive regimes who want to bully others with nukes obtain them it is a threat to the US the world and it is also a threat to the average Iranain citizen

amerrica is not a bully we go into dangerous extreme country's and try our damnedest to "fix" them introduce equality suffrage and economic wellbeing so they are no longer so threatening it would be the historical norm to go in for oil but we are Americans and we think we are so good


if we went in for oil why am I still paying 4 bucks a gallon did we spent billions of dollars invading country's so we could BUY oil based on OPEC standards I think not I don't see the logic in that argument we didn't invade Iraq or afgahnistan or free Kuwait and then load their oil on tankers and leave we stayed fought insurgencys and tried our best to befriend the populace and overhaul their entire society

we also didn't bully Libya we were just going along with the UN and France for human rights that was hardly our show

drew I didn't understand half that post are you high maybe?

I don't even know who akmed dijinijad is but hes definitely not the president of Iran it makes me question your supposed supreme knowledge of ongoings in the middle east

Are you familiar with Pat Tilman who quit pro football to "defend" his country. He was killed by his own people, which is still debated to this day. However his message still made it home. He said the only thing he was doing in Iraq was defending poppy fields. You think just because the price of gas goes up, that it means were not taking their oil. The entire middle east wants to stop accepting the dollar for their oil! Thats why were invading every damn country there is and are now sounding the horns agaisnt Iran. I suggest you do more research. Even main stream media often questions the intent of the goverment. This is well known, this isnt even illuminati theories, many people question Bush and his Iraq invasion being that hes in Big oil. If we hadnt invaded Iraq for oil, gas would be 20$ a gallon.

Statements from main stream media

It’s somewhat rare to hear a Senator tell the truth about American foreign policy, but we did get a glimpse of reality last week when Senator Lindsey Graham lustily talked about the death of Gadaffi. He said, “There’s a lot of money to be made in the future in Libya. There’s a lot of oil to be produced. Let’s get on the ground and help the Libya people establish a democracy and a functioning economy based on free market principles

While we have the illusion of choice in our politics, the only real consistency in policy-making is Washington’s commitment to war and oil, and increasingly often, war for oil. Libya was the oil dealer to Western Europe, but the market for oil is global. And oil is the prize, not democracy. This is why John McCain praised Gaddafi in 2009 for his peacemaking efforts, and applauded his death last week. It’s also why our military is increasingly extended across the world in oil-rich regions.

Our oil-drenched, defense-heavy industrial policy is increasingly creaky, but it is protected by the money that flows into the political system to wall off politicians from voters.

Without a reformation for new politics, and a different way of relating to one another, we will continue with the status quo. And we will have to keep finding countries and asking the question of how our oil got under their sand.

Note: Anyone who thinks that the Middle Eastern wars are a response to 9/11 should read this. For example, the Iraq war and [threatened] Iran war were planned before 9/11.

The Afghanistan war was planned before 9/11 (see this and this). And – according to French intelligence officers – the U.S. wanted to run a lettuce pipeline through Afghanistan to transport Central Asian oil easily and cheaply. And so the U.S. told the Taliban shortly before 9/11 that they would either get “a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs�, the former if they greenlighted the pipeline, the second if they didn’t. See this, this and this.

WHERE ITS SAYING SEE THIS....ITS LINKS TO MORE DETAILED EXPLANATIONS. DO NOT FOR ONE SECOND THINK THESE WARS ARE OVER EVIL MEN AND TERRORIST ATTACKS.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/everything-were-doing-now-was-planned-before-911.html

That link there is from a national recognized website. Go to it and read. The wars were planned long before 9/11. Thats why i say 9/11 was an inside job meant to use an excuse to invade these countries rich in oil. I, and many others say, Bin Laden wasnt resposible for 9/11 but was a cia Asset.

THIS IS WHY WERE CONSIDERED BULLIES ACROSS THE GLOBE

oops Ahmadinejad=Ackmed dijinijad gimme a break its hard to get those names. And my post was very coherant

yah that seems slightly over the top we don't even get that much oil from the middle east so your argument has no basis have you ever thought that maybe the mainstream media you qoited right there is just trying to get people riled up most of our IMPORTED oil comes from the western hemisphere we are not in the middle east for oil we are there because they want to kill us and we don't want to die

"we are there because they want to kill us and we don't want to die" rediculous

we are not considered bullys across the globe actually contrary to what you think we are just seen as backwards

and we are not considered billy's across the globe because of that conspiracy theory you just used to back it up because guess what its a conspiracy theory which means most people don't believe its true

we went there because we needed there oil

rediculous two can.play that game drew we don't even get oil from the middle east

how is my post rediculous it seems simple and straightforward actually logical

The soldiers of our military are honorable men and deserve respect and praise. However they think the same thing you do. They think were fighting for peace and to help people. Bullshit. Why do you think so many are writing home saying there waking up to whats really going on. I support our soldiers but i dont support these false wars. The goverment has lied and continues to lie. Like i said, you think the world is exactly what it seems, no...not at all.

You really think this countries goverment would spend billions of dollars to help people they dont even know. Hell no, you cant feed the poor but have money for wars. You think they care about Saddam Hussein killing his own people. This is games meant to disguise the real intentions. They spend their own money...and OUR money, wrecking our economy to secure their future as leading super power of the world. Without oil, they cant ride in their gas guzzling SUVS. Or fuel there planes and tanks. Do you think the goverment spends 4$ a gallon. No they most likely pay nothing. However if they didnt have the Iranians oil, they would be paying just as much as we are. Very nice of them to let us have a little for sky high. If we never invaded these countries, then Iraq would be setting its own price for oil and they would be paying much much more for it. Perhaps into the hundreds of dollars a gallon. Then they couldnt wage future wars. Then Iraq and Iran would be becoming super powers while the USA falls behind over years.

"we are not considered bullys across the globe actually contrary to what you think we are just seen as backwards

and we are not considered billy's across the globe because of that conspiracy theory you just used to back it up because guess what its a conspiracy theory which means most people don't believe its true"

Bugger me sideways. America is perceived by EVERYONE, including Europe, Britain, Australia and its allies, as the "great interferer". There isn't a corner of the globe where America doesn't strut around thinking it has the right to boss around everyone else.

Most countries (especially in the Middle East/Asia) would prefer to see the United States butt out.

Its spelled, ridiculous. Both of you. The main stream media isnt trying to start anything, these people are pro's. Conspiracy theories are believed by many. Its just not accepted as truth and reported as truth. Doesnt mean its not true. If people were admitting its true...it wouldnt be a conspiracy theory now would it?

Alex i agree with you on some topics but you need to do more research and bow out respectfully until you get more facts. I can admit when im wrong, can you?

MY POINT EXACTLY TOM!! EVERYONE KNOWS THIS!
If you were Iran wouldnt you be pissed too. I would. I would quickly say, mind your own damn bussiness! We said after WW2, that we will stay in our hemisphere and ya'll stay in yours!

Kinda hypocritical? Seems like we been meddling in others affairs since Hitler killed himself.