U.S and Israel to attack Iran soon

The US and Israel plan to attack Iran. I think its stupid and they are playing little war games but how do you feel?

Israel is a bully and the US has no reason to back them. Iran would have never threatened us if we left them alone in the first place

True. The US is a bully too. I give Iran alot of respect for standing up to the US

Yep I think we should simply let them make all the fissionable material they want. I can see Israel getting upset, however those missiles the Germans sold won't reach the U.S.

I think we should wait until they fire one off at Europe before worrying about it.

I take it that is sarcasm?

No i agree with Yankee. If we attack Iran with no reason (like we r trying to do now) then Russia and China are going to come to Irans aid. But if Iran attacks any one of the US's allies then we should attack them

The US and Isarel are bullies who need to be checked. It doesnt help Irans case that they wanna "wipe Isarel off the map" but they should be allowed to do what they want as far as building weapons. Then the allies should tell them, if you screw with us, or if you allow a Nuke to fall into Terrorist hands and scream its not your fault, then you'll never be able to enjoy Isarels demise because we will turn Iran into a Nuclear desert. Kill every one of you. This shits all about the oil. Not pre emptive attacks, its about oil.

Yes but wouldnt Iran want to take US off the map since they hate us and they know we will back Israel up

It was said in a way that could be taken as being sarcastic however, I actually think we should leave them alone until they actually decide to produce a nuclear weapon.

I can understand from their national standpoint wanting the technology to enrich materials, they have multiple uses other than weapons.

The problem stems from, once they possess that capability, it's relatively easy to produce a nuclear weapon in a short amount of time.

I doubt it could be done in secret on a scale where it would be viable as a "weapon" for war against the U.S.

They could very well sneak a few bombs into Israel or even the U.S. if given to terrorist groups, while they can get to Europe, they have no weapon delivery system other than human carried that can reach the U.S. at this time.

At that point, when the first dirty bomb was used, attempted, or it was proven they where developing military grade weapons, then remove their capability to do so even if it means turning the country into a parking lot.

Until then leave them alone.

I believe they are after the capability to produce nuclear weapons. That's not the same thing as intending to produce nuclear weapons.

Until they do, they have the right to enriched materials for medical purposes as anyone, and while we are willing to give them access to those materials, I can understand wanting the capability to do for yourself.

Yeah let Iran build nukes. If every other country can how come Iran cant? Since the US has nukes how come Iran cant have them? The US has over 200 nukes and couple hundred deactivated. Iran knows if they nuke Israel its going to be suicide

I didn't say let them actually build nukes, I simply see no reason to deny them the technology.

It does have other purposes.

a nuclear iran will be HORRIBLE, a country that says they want to wipe out a country of the face of the earth and also considering isarel's size, they should not be taken lightly. sure let them have nuclear facilities for energy but those facilities should be open freely for inspection. im not saying we should attack militarily but we should sanction and isolate them so bad that they give up the program

I agree with all of you except shallom =)

Iran has been wronged continously by Israel, the United States, Europe, and even Russia. Most of the middle easy feel the same pressure, these sanctions, and restrictions are what allows Israel and Russia the ability to keep all of this pressure on them. Have you ever wondered why we call people terrorists? It's because they hate us because we give so much to their enemies.

Also Iran had agreed to give up their Nuclear Enrichment program as long as they were given the ability to purchase medicinal nuclear equipment. That plan went south only because the (snotty attitude) French had to be involved. Why should Iran have less rights then the rest of the world? Especially when they are willing to compromise

I agree with you Drew. 100%

If anything a nuclear Iran will make Israel behave itself. It's been strutting around unchecked for too long, pushing Muslims off their land and annoying its neighbours. No wonder America has 20+ terrorist organisations after it.

Hopefully a mini-Cold War in the Middle East will keep both sides at the best of their behaviour.

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Iran is not goverened by a rationally thinking governement but rather by a group governed by the thought that the big satan and the litle satan must be destroyed no matter what the cost will be.

Most likely, they are more interested in hitting the US than Israel or Europe.

If not checked, they will be able, quite soon, to hit NY from a small submarine, from a distance of 2000 Miles.

Whether exploded or not, a small nuclear attack on NY, or even a 40 pound enriched Uranium wapor from a small conventional missile or bom in a containes in the NY harbor, will force the US to evacuate NY for the next 2000 years.

This will destroy the entire economy of the US and probably the world.

So if you are into such a risc, and hope that someone else will get hit, sleep well.

The conventional missile/bom spreading highly enriched uranium or plutonium vapor is today the single most dangerous thing that could happen to the US and the one threat that is costing the US billions each year to try and prevent.
Nobody mentions it, it can cause a huge panic.

The same discussion took place before Israel destroyed Osirak.
This time, it is not an Israeli problem. It is more a US problem.
In addition, Israel has a very large arsenal of self developed Arrow missiles nobody else has, that can stop very fast, balistic missiles at 50 to 150 miles distance. The US is too vast to defend and is in a far greater danger.
It has a very weak president who does not dare to stand up to the occasion and defend the country.

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Possible however unlikely, I don't believe the Iranians ever got the Type 209's they had on order from Germany. That leaves the Kilo's they possess from the Soviet Union. Yes they bought them from the Soviet Union not Russia.

All of those I seriously doubt could make it to within 2000 miles of the U.S. and are not capable of launching anything that could cover that distance.

They could make life difficult for a regional conflict but unless you possess a A.I.P type submarine the chances of a hostile getting within delivery range of the U.S. without being spotted are extremely slim.

Diesel Electric boats while extremely hard to find when operating without diesels are easy to kill once located. Movement is very limited and depends on the condition their batteries happen to be in at the time they are forced under.

Since the capabilities of submarines produced by various countries are known, if you even suspect one might be headed your way finding it is relatively simple mathematics.

Now if they acquire A.I.P. submarines, they might be able to get close however then the damage they can do is limited by the weapons possible for them to carry.

There is of course a threat, but I'd rate it as very low to the continental U.S.

The reason the Soviets moved their ballistic missile submarines under the polar ice packs was not because it was better positioning, it was because off the U.S. coast they where vulnerable.

Unless they begin producing Nuclear weapons I still say leave them alone.

Iran President allows no American films other than Michael Moores in the country. Sounds like hes a bigger conspiracy theorist than i am. But i do respect the man, i just dont agree with his statements, beliefs, and possibly even his religion.

I support Isarel, not the goverment of Isarel. Just the people.

we have 20 plus terrorist groups after us not for any foreign policy issue but for religious issues. a lot of the terrorist view isreal as the small satan and it is there duty to wage holy war to fight this "satan" and since we support them and provide military protection and aid they view as as the big "satan" so its not our fault they they hate us its because of there religious beliefs. iran right know is a rational thinking organization, but the fear is that they become so radical that although they know that if they bombed isreal they would be destroyed, that they will see that as a necessary thing to do in the eyes of allah. and with such a small country like isreal a nuclear bomb would have a very bad effect. the u.s isn't bullying anybody

the US did screw up bad with foriegn policy in the middle east I understand completely where those people are coming from (minus the suicidal tendancys as a result of there fanatical extremist religious beliefs)....not all country's have nukes drew most of the country's that have nukes are stable rational 1st world and don't have nearly suicidal rage towards their enemy's.....all you people who say whatever we wronged them let them have nukes are complete fools and nitwits and I hope you feel alright when our city's gets blown up by the dictators of Iran I also hope you feel alright when the US retaliates and blows up all the innocent Iranian citizentry

and drew about your comment "Israel is a bully" I find to be completely idiotic and perhaps you could enlighten me

the way I see it (I don't know much) they were invaded 2-3 times by Arabic neighbors and are under constant threat from militant terrorist organizations and the middle eastern dictators spew out garbage about pushing Israel into the sea almost as often as American politicians say God bless america plus Israel is very dependent upon US support to hold its own against these "bullys" narcissist racist genocidal weights upon their respective country's.....not at all the kind of people a respectful dignified outspoken liberal such as yourself would support

and pancakes every one of your posts are idiotic please don't make me explain them all...everyone just disregard him

Shut the hell up and drop dead bitch

The thing I respect about Israel is they are more than willing to fight their own battles.

Yes we've had to empty the decks of at least one carrier to give them weapons to fight with back during the 7 day war, but they do their own fighting.