Ok. Someone else laugh with me.

Nicely said Zen.

Barbaric? Your federation is a war based fed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The only reason I would attack anyone in your federation is to provoke sunny into attacking me, or to see if he would actually protect his so called "friends". Yes I said it. Me, provoking war. Who would've thought. I never even thought about getting involved, nor did I actually want to get involved in war.

I started as an econ player and went up war levels for the cash. Then I realized how important military is for protection. I have more then enough at 450q to deter any attack Sunny and BE can lay on me. I've spent probably well over a 1000T on military and upgrades. Instead of putting it to good use like filling countries and making share profit.

Fortified Heaven FOB( which btw Sunny stole from me lol )The FOB part. Forward Operating Base. From months ago when he decided to plop a country right next to my federation chairman and line it up with units. This was long ago before anything serious started. I would attack Sunny directly, however I'm not going to waste my time and assets on a small country he wouldn't even defend.

The only info people need to know is clear. I'm out here to grow quickly and help people. That's pretty much it. I have a lot of passion for this game and like most( most not all )of the community. I'll never have the intention on destroying a player unless they deserve it. My country that's in your region is actually a defensive measure to protect my federation in the area from potential threats. I don't need to capture your countries since I can just fill mine up 1.2 million population a month from c3s, and I'll have a few countries over 200 million eventually on kb. That'll be fun for me to defend myself with. If I'll even have enough to defend all of them.

I do not want to put myself out there as a bully. I don't see the point in attacking players who don't have similar asset levels. I don't plan on attacking anyone unless it's needed. To put it out there. If nothing does happen good. Just shows Sunny would be all talk and no action. When your federation started that's when I decided to have KB as my home empire. I can't have a war federation possibly bothering peaceful players in my federation who just want to grow in their own right.

Normally I wouldn't get heated over these things, but it's been bothering me for a long time. However it gives me motivation to keep pushing forward. I'm still pretty new to the community. I don't want to just come in randomly and attack/threaten vets who've been here longer. I check up on everyone. I don't see a reason to attack you. That's why I was concerned about you.

I'll be open about it. Every story has two sides. BE attacked Zentrino for no reason other then to draw out Aries. I decided since Zentrino was a friend that I would help. Zentrino at the time didn't have much to defend himself with at the time, to BE that was easy prey. Then aries and I get involved and rain on his parade. I don't know BEs intentions on that war nor do I care, it's attacking another player who isn't threating anyone other then John Smith lol. Which was pretty much small talk and troll talk. Zentrino ended up spending pretty much all of his gc trying to get out of debt from the war. If I were to attack anyone in your federation it would be for the same effect. To draw out Sunny into attacking me or at the least putting his own military at risk. If I lose mine no big deal. I'll just build it up again quickly.

Every player has their own goals on this game. Some serious, some casual. Everyone wants to grow. That's what the game is all about pretty much. Some will be very selfish, some very giving and some in the middle. I'd say I'm in the middle. Since I need GC for all of my empires/enterprises. I'm a serious player and take the game seriously. Peace is my policy, war is fine as long as it doesn't involve me or my friends. Which I have a lot of now on KB and FB. I've helped out atleast 30 or more new players getting them off their feet and into the econ game.

@Sunny If war is something that is inevitable then I want it done as soon as possible. 600T is more then enough to take me down. So go for it. To be frank I don't like you sunny. At all. I can't stand your attitude towards people on this game. It makes me cringe. I'm not the only one to dislike you and I'm sure you dislike me. I'm sure there's others who dislike me too, and that's fine. Not that I cause any harm...

@Tony I never planned to attack you for any reason what so ever. I sent you messages before about that when I started the country. So taking countries out of wp won't make a difference as I have no reason to attack you. Also just putting that out, don't really have any pvp background so I wouldn't be able to effectively take you down without losing more then I'd want. I just know how to build a good defense.

Tony this is for you.

I think many of us have been spending time with family and enjoying the holiday. I know in my case with my parents long divorced and me being married I have spent time with my Stepdad's family twice, met with my Dad and family, spent about all of Christmas day with my wife's family, and still have a get-together with my mom and some other of her family I missed this weekend. Between that I have been taking in a lot of football for which my Dad, a friend of his that has known me since I was born, and I make bowl picks to make it interesting. So implying that you have been enjoying the holiday while others have nothing better to do then play Simcountry is false.

I am not sure what Zen told you about your countries or about making up. This is an exchange I am not familiar with. I can tell you that I moved into that region on KB after a ludicrous comment that you made in Hangouts about me putting Zen up to maneuvering into a region that you have countries. At that time, I was in your fed, I was completely unaware of what Zen was doing, and if you brought it to my attention, thought it was a threat, and asked for my assistance, I would have offered it in the same way I sent assistance to Sunnyknight, also in your fed, when he asked. Either you made a completely invalid assumption or accepted what someone else was saying before bringing it to my attention. Either way, that did not seem very respectful to me.

In addition, you were similarly influenced or inclined to believe some false set of events with the Blackeyes conflict. Blackeyes was the aggressor. After his attacks on FB he talked about fighting me on LU and babbled about leaving some type of gift in his warring countries on FB for Zen and Zentrino. No peace was agreed to in chat, no peace treaty was offered by Blackeyes to anyone in game, and he started to move his assets to LU making it look like the war was being expanded to that world. This was certainly a more credible threat than all the silly war smack talk that occurs on FB these days.

For all this, you talked in Hangouts as if I did something dishonorable. Again, this seemed a stab in the back for someone who came to your federation to try to help you guys be the war fed you guys said you wanted to be. Again, this didn't seem very respectful to me.

Lastly, a lesson in the way Simcountry threats and diplomacy works. I don't make threats to players. If that were to happen, most players would simply run up war protection, so that doesn't make any sense. If I have a beef with you, I will make sure my war declaration is up first. That will then setup the timetable for diplomacy before the shooting can start and maintains my options should diplomacy not work out. Don't expect any idle threats coming from me, if it is on you will know it.

@Aries

The message I sent to Tony was just about that. You never told me what exactly was said between you two and I shouldn't have come up with conclusions. I guess Tony laughing never took me seriously which is fine... I also tend to be heat headed on certian things and can have highly negative and positive opinions on other players, that's just my personality I guess. I can be a pretty emotional guy. So I guess the term I'd use for myself is. "I'm mad bro" because I do rage at games often. Not that I'm raging on simcountry, just ranting.

Well well well, all this bluster. I thought surely by now war decs would be up.

Hey, I got my drink and popcorn all ready. Where's the action? I want to see report after report after all this talk.

Yes, the view from the cheap seats is fine, lol.

It's my experience that war never profits those who must fight it.
Let me get several popcorn companies up and running. I want a good vantage point, too.

Aries i have built loads

The seats in the house will go fast, so reserve your seat as it may be a bumpy ride along the way. Who is your money on, what odds are being offered? Or is it a LONG SHOT as to who the REAL WINNER will be........?

My money is on those who supply both sides, as always.

@John Smith,

You've built loads of what? Bluster and bullshit?

Hey now, I'm sure he has loads of military units.

Two is "loads", right?

Out of the country for now.
Will reply when I get back.

@John West. Forgot to add, I use up gc as fast as I earn it. I spend probably 10-20 a day on spending and corp boosters. Owning one empire/enterprise you won't need much to keep up. I own 5 enterprises and 3 extra empires that's 240gc a month. Idk how I keep up on it without spending real $. I believe there's no need to spend a dime extra on games with premium currency if there's trade. That's pay-to-win imo. That's why I spend half my assets/time just building/selling countries to keep up with my greed. I enjoy talking to you and actually read up on what you say sometimes. I look into alternative things as well. This is what upsets me with sk. After BE lost around 200T military and changed his name to the white house, obviously it's still him. Gives sk 600T in military assets. Probably worth over 1,800T with quality and pros added. Sunny didnt have nearly as much, not even 60T. Seriously? It's a cheap gag none the less. Not like sunny will even use the military he was given. Even if he does I'll be the first one to respond to any attacks on players sk attempts to attack. Since he's BEs new errand boy. We're two opposites. Neither completely justified. However, someone who needs to complain about a war they never ever got involved in and call out the victims as the aggressors on a notorious warmonger whos lust for power and recognition spitting out their bluffs on attacking and defeating the #1 player while failing to beat 2 under armed players with aries support. If he couldn't beat that then how is he going to even come close to putting a dent into aries? Why didn't Sunny come and help BE on FB at the time? Well that's old news now that BE is on the down low still selling me his pros. Other then that I'm also tired of the way sk speaks. Most players with that type of personality will get 1 loss and quit the game. Too bad he has nothing worth attacking. Two faces behind every player myself included. Can't wait to see what happens in 2016, or another boring year for simcountry. Well I'm done ranting for now. I'm going to shut up and be a good boy friendly ol zen. You guys are great. Very interesting personalities in this game. I think I'm starting to fit in. Maybe I'll get kicked off fb from getting attacked... Reading old war posts is interesting maybe sunny can bring it back with great wars to come.

Was 2015 boring? I could be more exciting but I have attempted to encourage some action.

Some 2015 things:

March 28, 2015
-I recommend a simplification of unit management

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/8/24775.html?1427724961

May 17, 2015
-Aries security forces liberate several LU territories.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/4969/24866.html?1433621286

August 12-14, 2015
-I recommend different game enhancements to teach and provide incentive to participate in the SC war game in Battlegrounds and The War College. I follow this with an interim player-driven system in War Games.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/8/25045.html?1439461174

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/8/25043.html?1439414203

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/3/25052.html?1441027174

August 21, 2015
-I add to the Beginner's Forum my C3 War Guide and an outline for war player progression called "The Path of a Warrior".

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/16295/25063.html?1440168966

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/16295/25064.html?1440165977

September 6, 2015
-My LU empire celebrates its 500 game year anniversary.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/4969/25097.html?1441907090

October 11, 2014
-Player Power Ranking data is first collected on many top players and posted to the forum.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/8/24236.html?1426105397

November 13, 2015
-Blackeyes is defeated at the Battle of Camp Foxtrot.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/3711/25234.html?1447529218

This almost reminds me of me someone else who once played this game but got run off later.... Oh well Aries is more than capable of defending himself.

@BE Speaking on this acct... all things i say here today , for the final time... does not reflect on the current owner to which i sold it to!!!

@Zen Let's get one thing very clear about what happened that day. #1 I was NOT defeated or lacked the ability to take down 2 low level players such as yourself & Zentrino, With Aries help or not victory was assured. #2. I GAVE you all of what i dropped into FB as my way of making things right for my past actions and disturbed behavior in this gaming community, which i actually thank you for making me think about some personal issues in that chat we had. If not for your blunt words... i would still be here... and still suffering from personal demons. Weird stuff i know

@Aries Hi Aries, i hope you are well & fighting IRL.

@SunnyKnight Is not my ERRAND BOY! I did for him what he has asked me for since we met + I didn't have the desire to continue this "game" anymore... i told Jan about my decision to finally go away long before the Zen/Aries situation flared up.
I felt the game needed a balance restored, one in which myself and players like me, broke long ago...

Giving everything away that i didn't simply delete haha like i done for month's prior, but giving back what i could to @SunnyKnight was the right thing to do for the game IMO.

Whatever he decides to do with his stuff is up to him, but he is a cool player & Zen is a cool player to... with his amazing speeches lol
Take care yourself everybody, happy new year... and God Bless

- BE for the final time!

So you sold the account to someone else, but you're still posting with it?

BlackEyes or whatever your name is, you claim to be leaving, but how can we believe one who consistently changes names????? and ironically, your avatar on one of your countries is OBAMA (hahaha its so evil I almost like it), so again how can we believe what you're saying??????

I suspect you took to your latest identity to troll me because I raised the rebel flag, so perhaps you chose a potential nemesis against this flag, making OBAMA an interesting choice. However I admit that may be a bit of a stretch, as I also figured you maybe more likely chose to be OBAMA to troll everybody.

I also suspect John Smith is trolling me, and I think that's less of a stretch. That's maybe why he chose a similar name as mine (also generic like mine), and positioned his country in close proximity to mine, and then of course proceeded to make nuclear threats against the world . .. but OK maybe that's all coincidence. .. .sure. . . . . .don't think I didn't notice these patterns right away John Smith.

and so as I suspect I'm potentially being trolled by BOTH of you, . .. . is it too far of a stretch to suspect. . .IS THAT REALLY YOU BLACKEYES??? by that, what I mean is the both is actually one?? hahahaha who really knows on the internets anyway. . . yet I'll continue to point out that it's possible as you BlackEyes have already displayed that you have multiple personalities, and I am also aware of you have a history of a multitude of names, so are you moving onto multiple accounts now so we lose your trail?? so of course you proclaim you're leaving to throw us off, and the diversion is further reinforced by giving away your resources !!

But you know, you share a similar pattern with OBAMA (AKA Barry Soetoro or Soebarka or Davis or whatever his name really is), and so I conclude it's plausible that YOU ARE OBAMA !! !!! and now that you've revealed your true identity, you realize you've got to drop that account so you can continue to shapeshift (and more effectively by transitioning from shifting names to shifting accounts), which you've already began by morphing into John Smith. The complete inverse of the an infamous man ("OBAMA"), who wants to change his identity once more, is a completely generic name ("John Smith")!! and so I wonder, who will John Smith eventually evolve into before the cycle repeats?? Joseph Stalin?? haha

Regardless of who is or isn't who, if you leave then, the only villain we'll have left at present is John Smith ??????????? so now John Smith has to be twice the villain he already is to fill in the vacuum you've left us.

Yet somehow I feel as though we're just being trolled further when you say you're "leaving"

and I feel left out that I'm mentioned zero times in your parting words. I bid you farewell although I suspect you will return, if you've even really left that is !!

but don't think I'm at all actually bothered by BlackEyes or more obvious trolls like John Smith just because I've pointed out that I'm onto your shapeshifting. You regularly make me laugh. Clarification: I won't really say BlackEyes is so much a troll as John Smith is, but perhaps Smith is a refinement in the art of trolling, whereas BlackEyes used force, John Smith spreads disorder with mere words alone haha.

The point of all this I have said is that:

JOHN SMITH IS REALLY BARACK OBAMA !!

Lastly I'll admit that what I have just laid out is largely speculatory, although based on actual observable patterns.

(and no I don't really think BlackEyes is John Smith, just pointing out the possibility hahaha)


and in response to Zen I admit I'm not on that level. Yes I have but one country really on one world (its lesser states are sort of worthless speedbumps at this point, they need some work. but they are tax havens!), along with an enterprise. I plan on starting a second enterprise on another world so that I can really bring in some cash taking advantage of different markets, but that'd be likely the full extent of my presence as I intend to keep my operations efficient and my expenses light to avoid the sort of overhead you speak of. I would not be proud of such colossal expenses. I have the resources to begin a presence on all worlds, but then I would be dealing with the added expenses that come along with, and I'm not sure I can afford or want to deal with that sort of overhead at this time, and it sounds a bit of a hassle. and so my point is I look at it as though sometimes less is more.

VOMIT that's what we got from this load of babble BS, IF YOU GUYS WANT to make 2016 a year to remember cause HAVOC in simcountry


as WE intend to!

If I caused you to puke than I am proud of myself .

interesting, so mr west you desire to tangle with us OK

No actually I like you, you make me laugh. In fact I perceive that you're the most interesting character(s??) here.

mieke we surpose hmmm positive hmmm maybe that you're that we are, that you are the most interesting character(s??) here???.

???? + LOL