Can Any GM please try to explain this: War Engine Fail? (Little Upsilon)

For two days Steven Ryan has been nuclear bombing David Walker and one of my c3 countries in a dispute over some countries of Zentrino.

I have a fleet, in range of the Country Lexana, currently an open declaration on a member of Stev Ryans federation called "War Ensemble" on LU

I have fired 2 shots on 2 undefended Targets. Both times No damage is reported, Yet the targets are undefended.


My Country Name is: 'Bollocks To You' on Little Upsilon

The Country I am fighting is "Lexana" on LU, Previously owned by Slade, then passed on To Corporate Partner, and now being managed by whoever took over EC's account.

I have fired on Lexana 2 Times with a nuclear Submarine.

Both fired from Fleet:

YERDUNSON
YERDUNSON is a helicopter carrier of Bollocks To You


Position Navy Map

YERDUNSON is not damaged.



Image
Change Defense
1 Nuclear submarine
5 Supply ships
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Bollocks To You Daily Telegraph, Mar 19, 2928
International News


Hostilities between Bollocks To You and Lexana
Bollocks To You fleet 'YERDUNSON' placed a nuclear attack on Roberts strategic airport. No damage to Roberts is reported. On the Lexana side no weapon losses were reported. The weapons chosen by Bollocks To You were not effective in this attack.



Hostilities between Bollocks To You and Lexana
Bollocks To You fleet 'YERDUNSON' placed a nuclear attack on Venedig military base. No damage to Venedig is reported. On the Lexana side no weapon losses were reported. The weapons chosen by Bollocks To You were not effective in this attack.

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Notice How both targets are undefended. Paste from the Radar Plane Report

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Roberts

Roberts is a strategic airport in Lexana. Roberts is not damaged.

No Damage during this mission.
The following weapons were detected at Roberts:
Please note Radar Planes do not detect Airforce Defense capabilities.

Roberts is not defended.



Venedig

Venedig is a military base in Lexana. Venedig is not damaged.

Military base defense garrison
1 Radar Plane was damaged during this mission.
The following weapons were detected at Venedig:
Please note Radar Planes do not detect Airforce Defense capabilities.

Venedig is not defended.


How is this even possible, can you guys please look into and fix this problem or end the wars and return Zentrino's countries back to his account since we can't actually expect to fight an honest war and regain them or exact a just revenge.

Wendy and i don't see eye to eye often.

But i do have to agree with her 100% in this case. This isnt a fair for any war. Things like this have been noticed in both PvP and C3 wars. Either attacking with LRDS or nuke this seems to be more common. I personally have had instances where i used 1000tanks/1000artillery attacked a capital took no losses but did no damage.
Theres also been issues like cities moving to random places and capitals changing there names randomly. The GM needs to really redo the war engine. Its apperent that its dead and has been killed. But to have these issues happen when the FEW people who want to war war is unacceptable.

I think a heavy revamp and tweaking are needed.

Issue list

• A - Undefended targets are not damaged by nukes

• B - Defended targets ARE hit by nukes

A - According to the game documentation, Nuclear Batteries doesn't work like Helis/Ints that show up and fire back even if they are not the targeted directly.
That said, I don't know what could be.... maybe it's related to my explanation in point "B"... And for weapon units running out of resources trying to make attacks, their efectiveness becomes random due to that factor, and random could be zero (unless specified on the code with >0 etc).


B - The only thing that came to my mind is an issue with the supply units.
It might be possible that Steve was lucky enough to hit such targets when they were "unavailable" due to lack of gasoline/fuel, etc.
Remember that if a garrison or military unit is not properly supplied the military unit does not fire nor move.

Personally, I found out that 150 supply units (mixed between small and large) were unable to maintain the following army all the time active/up.
35k helis
35k ints
90k mib
90k dmb
90k aamb
many thousands of the def ground forces

15k heavy artillery
15k heavy tanks
15k Bombers
24 Stealth Bombers
3k cmb
5k lbmc
5k land to sea mb
30 SF
4 rdu


The issue might come here. Remember that ALL these weapons are spread in hundreds of Garrisons and Military Units and it takes time for a supply unit to replenish a garrison/military unit ---> Time to reach it, time to replenish it... multiply by N, you need a lot of supply units.

Also, they have units outside their main country (airlifted) and to keep them replenished/supplied (or however it's called) you either need a good amount of Military Transports OR make sure you are not leaving your country without enough supply units if you are airlifting supply units too.
And I think they have been airlifting supply units too.


It's an idea, it might be right, it might not .
I'm trying to understand how it was developed.

By the way, anyone knows the exact times for this processes?

1 - Time it takes a supply unit to reachs a garrison/military unit it has to replenish

2 - Time it takes a supply unit to replenish the garrison/military unit.

3 - Right after a supply unit reachs and replenish the garrison/military unit...... does it goes back to the nearest base to take more resources?
If so, how much time does it takes?

4 - Are time-numbers the same for a Small Supply unit and Large Supply Unit?

Steve hit targets because they didn't have any nuclear defense batteries present.

I just want the same graces applied in the opposite direction. The targets are undefended with no nuclear defense batteries, but the system made my nuclear missiles duds. That doesn't happen by accident.

Ok.

In that case, did you check the section "Use before XXXX"?

I have no eyedeer what yer talkin' 'bout!

Jonni, Andy, Robo?

And yet the problem persists...


You commanded a Nuclear Attack on Lexana.
You launched a Submarine nuclear missile from your Fleet DROPITLIKEITSHAWT.

Your attack has been launched. However, no additional damage was done to the target. Bollocks To You fleet 'DROPITLIKEITSHAWT' placed a nuclear attack on Roberts strategic airport. No damage to Roberts is reported. On the Lexana side no weapon losses were reported. The weapons chosen by Bollocks To You were not effective in this attack.

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Roberts
Roberts is a strategic airport in Lexana


Position 61.77°S 70.59°W

Roberts is not damaged.

Image
No Damage during this mission.
The following weapons were detected at Roberts:
Please note Radar Planes do not detect Airforce Defense capabilities.

Roberts is not defended.

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There isn't even a report of any use of a nuclear defense missile.

Are we ridding the game of nukes now? Why not at this point?

I have more questions...

Will my ground units have any effect against targets?

Is this country so special that it doesn't obey the language in the code we "assume" governs the war engine?

Is this being done because "Bad Dukes" doesn't wish to war, even though he is at or above war level 3 and is in a federation named "War Ensemble"?

Is this not an error worth mention.

Is it an error at all?

Silence from the GMs is deafening...

From: Lextron
To: Inannas Temple
Real Date: 23-02-2012 01:23:08
World Date: July 31 2928
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Hello...
Message: Okay I talked with david walker and him and i made peace I also left steves fed which really wasnt his to begin with it was ECs. I havnt attack you or your fed mates. So why are you still trying to nuke me. Bad Dukes


I have two Letters to whoever this person is in general...

F.U.


I'll see you dead.

Oh and +2 for having a sense of humor, Bad Dukes.


Let's see who laughs last.

lol stop ur whineing psycho mumma the one who raids everyone and complains when someone else get a bit of gear lol

You don't see me whining about anything. This game playing with a dishonest hand is bad business and bad form.

And don't address me out of turn again you multi POS.

I have 3 Offensive Airports in my newly Conquered country

"The Empire of Vibressa" on LU yet I cannot deploy any air Wings at any Military Airport.

I cannot select an airport by clicking on it. I get the error message

"You can station this military unit near offensive military airports."

I cannot select an airport by using the "Select from a List" Option. The list comes up blank.

I have a war with "Nuke Me If You Can" in just 10 game days.


I just want you all to see the lengths some will go to, when a side is taken. Apparently Steven Ryan and all his accounts is free to nuke and take anyone's country but the same courtesy is not given to others.

One wonders what is so special about Steve...

Watch and learn.

A change of Heart? Things apparently work now in my Newly conquered country.



However: This Problem still persists.


Nuke Me if You Can Daily Telegraph, Oct 13, 2928
International News


Hostilities between Bollocks To You and Nuke Me if You Can
Bollocks To You fleet 'DACHAMPISINDAHOUSE' placed a nuclear attack on Grand Rowena capital. No damage to Grand Rowena is reported. On the Nuke Me if You Can side no weapon losses were reported. The weapons chosen by Bollocks To You were not effective in this attack.

This Problem still persists.


Bollocks To You Daily Telegraph, Oct 19, 2928
International News


Hostilities between Bollocks To You and Nuke Me if You Can
Bollocks To You fleet 'DACHAMPISINDAHOUSE' placed a nuclear attack on Roberts strategic airport. No damage to Roberts is reported. On the Nuke Me if You Can side no weapon losses were reported. The weapons chosen by Bollocks To You were not effective in this attack.

obviously has nuke def lol

Yeah nice try. I've been doing this long enough to know when a player has nuke defense. Oh, maybe by the time the gms fix this pretend error he'll have actually bought some nuke defense.

Do you or any of your 5 or so accounts work here?

For those with an interest, there is no nuke defense. look for yourselves Not that I need to defend my position.

Strategic Air Base

Offensive Base

Defensive Base

Off Air Base

Def Air Base

Capitol

City

Now hurry and change those garrisons before anyone sees how full of it you really are...

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Hello World.

The War ravishes on. I would have wasted my ammo taking this country but who knows what other weapons the GMs will decide not to "allow".


Just another rigged Casino with a stacked Deck.

Typical of a casino, they don't tolerate winners for very long. Congrats.

If you can't win by playing fair then why do we have to pay real money to play these slots? Are the numbers not in your favor that this kind of crap is allowed? That is a great question. If this hasn't happened to you yet, you haven't been successful. Apparently that isn't tolerated much either.

Exactly in which time we switched from Steve Ryan to multiple accounts?

me lulz at da chat. lulz