The New Little Upsilon Order: Fact vs. Fiction

You shouldn't be able to call someone an asshole and a bigot and get away with it. It is abusive and unnecessary. And if I should get banned for less, the same standard should be applied across the board. The fact that there is not even a warning is even more puzzling. I guess it is a free-for-all until I call you an asshole, for acting like one. I guess we should overlook your actions because Hez is a Nazi and you are a poor victim Jew to hear you tell it. Anyways I'll be done with the profanity and pointless abuse.

He said the Jews worship Satan. I call them like I see them. To be honest, I doubt he actually thinks this is the case. He's probably just screwing around.

Either way, the game persona he is creating is an asshat (is that better?) and a bigot. Someone creates that kind of persona, he will be treated as that persona deserves.

EDIT: My point was that he should not be surprised by the hostility.

Zionist Jews do worship Satan. Even those who you think don't have been proven to worship the "Sun" or the morning star and that Christianity is just a Sun cult.

That doesn't amount to him being a bigot. It isn't his idea, he did some research and found out about it, and possibly decided it holds more credibility than blind faith.

Criticizing a religion or cult within a religion or certain group of people does not make him a bigot. You are taking your comments about him way off the game and getting personal, and I can remember being warned and then banned by Tommi for saying something far less offensive about you after you complained.

Scarlet, you've been here long enough. You know well you should keep the insults within the game and not based on his personal beliefs. I'm not trying to get you into anything with the GM. I am asking you that you observe the rules you once complained I wasn't.

Zionists don't worship Satan, they are jews that don't believe in the state of Israel. And depending on where you look Zionism was said to be started by secular. A secular sect is pretty much the opposite of worshiping Satan.

I don't agree with any organized religion, but I will not chastise anyone for believing however would like to, I really prefer that it doesn't get brought up. In this case the religion was falsely represented and on matters of faith that is very dangerous, yikes look at the world.

I guess my point is this, people tend to get carried away with the argument and pick sides. An issue that I have no place in, but Wendy Hez was wrong on his description of a very sensitive subject. That kind of information spawns from misunderstanding or discrimination, I will not presume to guess which category is true. Just because you are in a situation on his side, that does not mean you have to defend statements such as this. War lines are drawn based around certain idealogical differences NOT every idealogical difference. If you guys have a reason to have hostilities that is fine but you do not need every ideal to exasperate the situation, and allow a misunderstanding to turn into hatred. I myself am never offended but intentionally offending people is just something not needed here on the forums, and should probably be done in private messages not to be reposted on here.

But Wendy this also isn't only on you and Hez. Scarlet I remember seeing that post and scratched my head, but he didn't shove that point down our throats the post just kind of ended there, to bring it back up is a way to ignite a fire. If that's what your looking for okay, but as I said previously it only takes 1 ideological difference to have a reason for conflict when you make the entire world issues your platform is it difficult to think rationally as dislike, mistrust grows into hate. I would hate to see hate on here.

Dear Sim Community,

I would like to rescind my stated apology above to Sweetpea aka Wendy. It is definitely NOT deserving. I do, however, keep my apology to CC, as he is a very respected player with the utmost integrity.

Also, I would like for all of you to take this into consideration as Sweetpea/Wendy corrects the behaviors of other players in this forum as she felt compelled to do above with Mizore. She was banned from having a voice in these forums for about 8 months by the Game Masters. One has to wonder why.

Anyways talking about something stated that was "unnecessary" was her telling me in chat that she didn't "give a f===" what I had to say. Tsk tsk. I find the use of the f word in a conversation towards me abusive and unnecessary. At least I have the decorum to state my mind without doling out the cuss words. :-)

The Rothschilds have been Satanists for many generations. The Rothschilds are an important part of the history of the Seal of Solomon (also known as hexagram, Magen David, six-pointed star, Star of David.) The Seal of Solomon, the hexagram, was not considered a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds began using it.9 Throughout the Middle Ages the Seal of Solomon had been used by Arab Magicians, Cabalist Magicians, Druid witches and Satanists. One of the few ancient uses of the symbol was on the floor of a 1,200 year old Moslem Mosque found where Tel Aviv is today.10 In the twelve century an Ashkenazic Jew Menahem ben Duji, who thought he was the Messiah, used the magical symbol.11 Because the Rothschilds were Satanists they adopted this powerful magic symbol in 1822 for their coat- of-arms.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm

The name they adopted for their family actually comes from the fact that in the 17th century Mayer Amschel Bauer began hanging out a red hexagram in front of their house to identify it. Mayer Amschel then decided to take the name red-schield (Rothschild in German) after the red Seal of Solomon that they used.In 1836 Zevi Hirsch Kalischer approached Rothschild and proposed Rothschild buy all of Erez Israel. It took many years for the Rothschilds to finally create Israel. The Rothschilds have been a primary force behind the creation of Israel, and so it is appropriate that the nation carries their magical Seal of Solomon as the state logo.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm

Ezekiel 36:5 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Ezekiel 35:15 As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the Lord.

This is what leads me to believe what I believe, and question begs to be answered. Where are the Edomites/Idumaeans today?

Edom ( /ˈi�.dʌm/;[1] Hebrew: �ֱדוֹ�, Modern Edom Tiberian ʼĔ�ôm ; "red"; Assyrian: Udumi; Syriac: �ܕܘܡ) or Idumea (Greek: Ἰδουμαία, Idoumaía; Latin: Idūmaea) is a Semitic inhabited historical region of the Southern Levant located south of Judea and the Dead Sea. It is mentioned in biblical records as a 1st millennium BC Iron Age kingdom of Edom,[2] and in classical antiquity the cognate name Idumea was used to refer to a smaller area in the same region. The name Edom means "red" in Hebrew, and was given to Esau, the eldest son of the Hebrew patriarch Isaac, once he ate the "red pottage", which the Bible used in irony at the fact he was born "red all over".[3] The Torah, Tanakh and New Testament thus describe the Edomites as descendants of Esau.

During the revolt of the Maccabees against the Seleucid kingdom (early 2nd century BE), II Maccabees refers to a Seleucid general named Gorgias as "Governor of Idumaea" Some scholars maintain that the reference to Idumaea in that passage is an error altogether. Judas Maccabeus conquered their territory for a time in around 163 BC.[34] They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them to Judaism[35] and incorporated them into the Jewish nation,[17] despite the opposition of the Pharisees. Antipater the Idumaean, the progenitor of the Herodian Dynasty that ruled Judea after the Roman conquest, was of Edomite origin. Under Herod the Great Idumaea was ruled for him by a series of governors, among whom were his brother Joseph ben Antipater and his brother-in-law Costobarus. Immediately before the siege of Jerusalem by Titus, 20,000 Idumaeans, under the leadership of John, Simeon, Phinehas, and Jacob, appeared before Jerusalem to fight on behalf of the Zealots who were besieged in the Temple; but later betrayed them, and 1,000,000 Jews were killed. The city was laid waste and the Jews were enslaved in their thousands. After the Jewish Wars the Idumaean people are no longer mentioned in history, though the geographical region of "Idumea" is still referred to at the time of St. Jerome.

If you tell a Zionist that he worships Satan what is the chance he will shoot you dead?

This is all from two sources, one of which is a holy doctrine that condemns all Jewish people. And the revelations quote was used out of context. I heard that quote recently used for this very purpose debunked by a Bishop in an interview. The bible condemns all non-believers to hell. This includes all non-Zionist Jewish people, Buddhists, Athiests, probably the Mormons too if the book of later day saints was around before this edition.

The other source you are using is unfornately propaganda.

The start of Zionism was a really simple concept that didn't go as far back as what you are stating in your posts. Zionists were like hey let's form a communist government to ease the transition of the migration of Jewish people because of the holocaust, and other discrimination. Israel didn't like that, so the groups began to argue. One side wanted their values based on government and the other based on religion. I'm not exactly sure why "sharing is caring" which is supposed to be important in like all religions doesn't seem to work when confronted by a religious entity, oh well. cough cough republicans... Of course Israel wasn't a country until 1948 so I'm probably going a bit out of order. But you see the point of Zionsists were to produce a safe haven to the oppressed and was started by SECULAR individuals that realize worshipping that jewish stuff alone isn't going to support their people they need to take real-life free of religion concepts and develop a sense of salvation and restoration from the rubble of persecution the Jewish people had underwent. It has nothing to do with the devil. The Rothshild family was just a bunch of rich Jewish in which some were Zionists.

And the biggest reason why your source has lost COMPLETE authentication is that references the Illuminati. I can't take anything that mentions the Illuminati seriously.

THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF MY POST ->But you know none of this has any importance, I'm not going to change what you think, you probably won't apologize for your comment. All that is fine. So what we have here is a complete lack of respect. If you are homophobic do you yell and scream at gay people? If you are racist do you yell and scream at black people? NO, no you don't. If you have a derogatory sentiment towards a group of people you keep in your head, though you should never have a derogatory sentiment towards a group of people as every person is an individual. I personally would judge each individual of Al Qaeda separately and not condemn them because they are in group. Now before you say that it isn't derogatory because it's true, which it isn't, however for the sake of argument I'll let it be true. It still should not be said. Here is why, if you found someone on the site is chinese and statistically you are 85% likely to be taller than him, and you assume it to be so call him short or something. There may be no offense but you still could be misrepresenting him to the entire community. That is wrong. This goes back to the top of the post, if you have a Zionist next to you saying "oh that's ok, that won't offend me" that still isn't good enough. If you go into an all Zionist chatroom and spew that, and they say "it's alright" well then maybe it's alright. Still a maybe though. Religious Persecution is not okay on the forum. So stop it. Even if it's true stop it! I can say a certain type of people spread a deadly disease very heavily, but I won't. I can say that certain people tend to perform certain crimes but I won't it's offensive and doesn't define anyone. If you don't stop it, I'll complain. My ability to complain has no relevance in my religion, gender, race, ethnicity, social status, social class, sexual orientation, age, politic alignment. None of things. DON'T SPREAD HATE! simple

Note: the last two hez posts were not present when I wrote my rebuttal, but they do not change my opinion. And they still don't seem to answer the challenge at hand. That challenge that should be dropped, well should be apologized for.

If Zionists do or do not worship Satan, is all each player's opinion. Facts or information will be used by either players to support whatever conclusions they come to.

@Kiss, no one cares. I'm not Jess, get over yourself. You can keep your apology, it meant nothing. I wouldn't be fool enough to think it did, and so should crafty. Enjoy your game.

Dear Wendy,

I can really only shake my head at you. I think Crafty knows that I'm sincere, because with me here it isn't "game", it is just me. Furthermore, that is between he and I and doesn't really concern you, and if he feels a need to question my apology or post on it, perhaps he should do that or even send me an ingame message??? I don't have involvement in the "game", per se, and you know it. So this is NO game to me.

And furthermore, my apology to YOU was in fact sincere. I felt bad that I may have offended YOU, someone that I considered a game friend and didn't want it to appear I was against YOU in the game. Whether YOU choose to believe it or not is YOUR problem. I am glad to know at last that YOU are in fact a heartless female after all. You may not be "jess", but you certainly now are coming across every bit as heartless and mean of a player as she ever was. You make the game so fun and lively, but YOU go waaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top, sometimes. I've always been a strong advocate for YOU and even was right there in chat that day, asking Andrew to lift the ban that YOU needed to come back. I question my wisdom in opening my mouth on this now! ha ha ha

Also, I don't see anyone else posting here that they don't care about what I have to say. Are YOU now the entire game spokesperson??? lol I would say that it is just YOU that is "uncaring". Well this "uncaring" as YOU say, suggests an almost socio-pathic personality, because people, who are in fact GOOD people, SHOULD care even in an online game. Just saying.

By YOUR words here, everything YOU spout about so and so's behavior or trying to "clean" up the game, YOU aren't really caring at all, it is just to be self serving in a game. Selfish motives, indeed.

Well I assure YOU, I have no "game" interest. I have always just enjoyed coming here and goofing off and cutting up with the people. My intent here was GOOD HEARTED. I really CARE about people here, which included even YOU. THAT, my dear, is what separates ME from YOU.

Also, please come off YOUR high horse, because I really doubt alot of people here really care what YOU have to say as well. Just saying, if you want to state that to me, I will turn it back on YOU. I'm just pointing out some things to YOU, just as YOU think YOU need to point out to me. I am not afraid to cross YOU as noone else should in this game.

Also I should point out that YOU are every bit as "abusive" as you claim that Scarlet (Mizore) or whoever YOU tell that to. Why YOU even told Tom Morgan he was BORING.

As I said, YOU must be a "problemed" player because I know I have never been banned from the forums before, but YOU sure have and for a VERY long time. Perhaps the GMs will "rethink" their decision. For if I were part of game management, this would NOT be tolerated.

I do have to question. Relative to my post as to why I was going to leave, YOU are the only one who had anything negative to say. Highly interesting, I would say. :-)

Anyways, Enjoy YOUR game, love. I just enjoy the people here, well most of them. I don't enjoy the nasty "games" and frankly, right now, I don't enjoy YOU, the player.

Merry Christmas. May you find love in your heart this holiday season, even to extend to a game where there are people just like YOU. As I stated, the players in this game, veteran or new, are human beings with feelings, life stresses, health issues, and what not. A shame that people can't come here to laugh and smile, over and above the "game", at times. But YOU are obviously in control and dictating to everyone. So I respectfully just bow out.

Anyways, I emphasize the YOU throughout this message, so that it can be ALL about YOU. *Gives you a big pat on the back. There you go, girl friend.

Muah!

Happy Gaming!!!!!

Too much to digest... have you ever tried readers digest Kiss?

Do you really want me to read all of it. Just skimming through it is telling me you could have got your point across in a few less paragraphs.

I like how so suddenly I play all these "nasty games" the instant you and I disagree on anything. Kinda makes me wonder about Josias, Jess/BA and all the 'nasty' games accusations.

Do you use the term and apply it liberally to those who generally disagree with you or what?

Yeah I just read the rest of it in detail and it was a useless spew of nonsense. Have a good one kissi, sounds like you need it.

But before I go an analogy to sum up how retarded all your typing amounted to basically nothing.

How do you put "Boring" in the same category with "asshole and bigot"? Really? Wow

That is like you "suddenly" putting me in a category with Jess as far as harassing you in chat. Please tell everyone of a single example where I did any of the things you alleged she did to you, and find out how hollow that accusation was as well.

You should just stop. I'm starting to think you made the whole Jess harassment thing up, as I am sure many have already concluded.

I am not going to apologize. Where are the Edomites? Also look who AshkeNAZI Jews come from.

Genesis 10:1-3 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

See the AshkeNAZI Jews are from Japheth, so they are Gentiles or europeans. They are not Semetic. Edom is semetic, but why are they not mentioned anymore?

Wow, these people knew how to choose names huh?

Educate them Hezekiah, for they know not what they speak of.

Dearest Wendy,

1. *Smacks self! Why of course you wouldn't understand, one of such a little brain. ha ha ha ha

2. Please forgive me. I will use the K-I-S-S method for you (to Keep It Simple Stupid) at a 6th grade level JUST so YOU can understand.:P KISS method ha ha ha ha

3. I'm also sure that ALL of simcountry will keep their posts in the future to 10 words or less so that YOU can continue to understand.

After all, let's be super accommodating for the Queen! Oh I mean, let's all bow to Wendy!!!! <---much simpler of a statement to use, I'm sorry. I want YOU to comprehend.

OMG thank you, Wendy. I so needed this laugh today ha ha ha ha ha ha

Anyways, glad I could satisfy your need to be a ummmmmm what's the word that people usually say??? Now forget about me and go terrorize someone else. :P

Wendy, you can rest assured that I will not use any game position or personal belief as cause to stalk or harass anyone outside the game. I will not dig up personal information. I have no desire to be involved with your life in any capacity outside this game. This is the boundary that I will not cross, and I have not crossed it.

However, I will use any opinions expressed on these forums as cause for hostility within the game.

If whoever is behind the keyboard cannot handle King Hezekiah II being called a bigot by Mizore, he should refrain from volunteering his opinions on the forums.

Judge and prepare to be judged as the saying goes.

If it makes you feel better, the person behind the keyboard here isn't actually angry and is greatly exaggerating the level of offendedness. I still think he is wrong and wrong in a dangerous way, but that doesn't mean he means any harm, does it?

As far as "bannable" language, I can understand where it may be confusing. Given their history, it isn't only about bad language. Until you understand the difference between threatening to destroy someone and threatening to murder someone, you will be banned and I will not.

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Is anyone surprised that there is not a single example?

I'm not. You probably aren't either. Apparently Kiss is just upset that we didn't agree on %100 of everything there is to agree on. Therefore, I am Jess, Stupid, and any other level of insult or wrong she can lodge against me. Case closed.