STOP KILLING THE CHILDREN (Kebir Blue)

Im sorry 1John 5:19

I know Jack.

Serp: yup. don't think the misquote was unintentional. i believe that, control of the evil one.

@jackwagen; amen, lol, i lived in brazil for 5 years, so i know whereof i speak

and whereof you speak, i should have said...

Well my point is that according to the bible at 1 John 5:19 the world is in fact currently being controlled by wickedness or evil. This bible fact explains many things.

I thought the world was controlled by god. Thought he had some divine plan

According to the bible God is not presently controlling the world. That's why 1John 5:19 plainly says that the WHOLE world is in the power of the wicked one.

In fact even the temptation that was presented by Satan to Jesus at Luke 4:5-7 proves this. Because if it was not possible for Satan to offer the 'world' to Jesus for an act of worship, how would it have been a temptation? Also wouldn't Jesus have simply said, 'its not yours to give'. So no, the world is not being controlled by God, if it was things would be different.

However, you are right that according to the bible God does have a 'divine plan'.

God is the giver and taker of kingdoms even tho the wicked control the world. God intercedes in many ways, but don't blame him for the hustle and bustle of this world.

Trust me I don't blame god for anything

If there were a God I'm sure he would have taken me to heaven by now is'nt that what he does when there are people to good for this world? Or at least Fb

Here is a question. One that all of us should ask ourselves. "If I died today, where would I spend eternity?"

As to the inference, "if there were a God" as stated by carbon above...well there IS a God. He is VERY real. I just saw a very thought provoking movie, God is NOT Dead. It talks about athiests and their hatred against God. Have you often wondered why athiests/non-believers are so offended by prayer and the words, In God We Trust, or anything to do with religion or the mere mention of God, period? If they didn't believe, why do they even care????? I think deep down they know, and they FEAR.

I think some of the most avid atheists were once believers and "hate" God, because they felt let down or betrayed by Him. What we have to remember that God has given all of us Free Will. Nothing bad in this world can be of God, for God is Good. Disease that kills, sick people who molest or murder helpless children or abuse them.......that is because of Satan, not because of God. Whatever pain or suffering that we endure here on earth will be greatly rewarded by the afterlife in Heaven. Life here is so temporary in comparison to eternity. I think it would be so sad to not believe in God or Heaven. Where would be our sense of right or wrong in the world? Our moral code? Where is any form of hope? How sad a life that would be. Life has a purpose. The purpose is God.

What I find so astounding is the number of non-believers out there and even in this game. I can tell you some of the believers and the nonbelievers just in their treatment of other people right here in this game. I don't stand in judgement though, for I know not what they endure in their lives that makes them behave so cold and callous. I can only pray for them. I pray for all of us for none of us are perfect.

According to the bible not all 'good' people go to heaven!

@toothdecay
that movie you saw sounds very fair and unbiased

I wonder if atheists would mock or condemn 'Allah' or 'Muhammad' or other religions like they do the God of the bible?

They mock all gods... and "higher beliefs" (paranormal). I have a few friends... Not very common down here.

I bet they wouldn't mock them in Syria, Iraq, Iran etc...

You got that right :S

Toothdecay I think to put it simply atheists don't fear god or feel let down by him because they don't think he exists..... I don't like to argue over the existence of god because it involves some esoteric topics and ultimately no one ever changes their mind because of intellectual dialogue...

As for saying morality comes from god I find that to be very offensive myopic and does a disservice to all of humanity..... Even the phrase god is good implies goodness is something outside of god something greater then god.... Also saying atheists are cold and callous is a rather stupid thing to say... Generalizations like this rarely hold up to scrutiny....

Atheists regularly do debate Muslims and visit Muslim countries... Obviously religious influence is stronger there and there are less atheists.... As such religious debate between atheists and theists is mostly done in the context of Christianity... But the same arguments apply... I don't think it has anything to do with fear as I think your implying.... Not everyone thinks the Muslims are going to get us

Also I imagine there are some laws in those countries which prohibit blasphemy we are lucky to not have such laws in America ... Not to mention its expensive to travel tree just to say "I piss on god"...

Oh yes, Jackwagen, the all-knowing and wise one, who likes to see himself type. Athiest, non-believer spews forth from you like molten lava from an erupting volcano. As if I or any Christian would give any credence to what you say. Just saying. I also, am of the belief, that to debate religion is pointless. We all have our belief systems and I'm sure points in a game forum would not deter them. FURTHERMORE, one has to point out, does a religious debate belong in a game forum, when it only sparks the offensive with the games' customers?

May God have mercy on all of you, for the day of judgement is near. As I asked, if you died today, where would you spend eternity?

TOOTHDECAY, live for the moment, Lord knows I'm gonna die. And when I get to hell, Lord knows I'm gonna fry!

Supreme, you may think you are being "cutesy" and "witty", but I rather pity that you can take such a carefree attitude of where you would spend eternity, providing of course that you are a believer. Such a sad state of people these days. No wonder there is so much murder, crime, people hurting other people, children killing children. It is people such as you who are role models to children and others that evoke such antipathy towards the entire concept of goodness and God. I pity you. I pray for your souls. No wonder there is so much hate in you. All of this is prophesized in Revelations, you know. You nonbelievers should educate yourselves and stop taking the "easy" way out. I can say this, it is not I who am to judge. What you do during your time on earth is between you and God. God is a merciful God, but it clearly states, unless you accept HIS Son as your Lord and Savior, you will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. :-(

For Everyone:

Our Father, Who art in heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name;
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.


@Serpent:
The weak mock and condemn what they fear most...whether it be God, a coworker, or even another player in this game.

Those who "attack" often times find themselves to be very inadequate and have a great desire to "lash out."

I don't see what my thoughts on religion has to do with people respecting what I say.... You're quite asinine Toothdecay

Furthermore crime is not caused by people not being Christian.... In fact some of the greatest crimes of history were perpetuated by religion... You're just filled with misconceptions aren't you

And why do you keep saying you're under attack... No one is attacking you stop trying to play the victim

Jackwagen, I never stated that I was under attack or that I am a victim. Again in your anger, you misinterpret all together what I was trying to say. I just shake my head at people like you........filled with anger and wanting to lash out. I have stated nothing here but my opinion. Why are you so angry? I've not been angered by anything you have said.

Again, you must be filled with some sort of loathing for those who are different from you or possess a feeling of inadequacy. What I was stating above was a generalty and not specifically stated at you alone, per se. But you have just demonstrated that you fall into that category of the "angry" and those who feel a need to "lash out.". Good luck to you in life. YOu are going to need it.

My debate with you has ended. I don't choose to put myself in the pathway of angry and disturbed people.