A Prediction

And..if you think conversation here tonight has been testy. Listen to this.

Just came over CNN.

A panda bear walked into a restaurant in Seattle.
Walked right in sat down on a counter stool.
Waiter says, "What's going on.." Panda cuts him off and says gruffly.. "I,m a friggin Panda Bear so bring me a burger, fries and coffee..now"
The waiter rushes back with the meal. The panda woofs it down.
The panda then pulls out a pistol, fires it into the ceiling and heads toward to the door.
The waiter yells.."What the hell are ya doing? Ya shot the ceiling and your leaving without paying for your meal."
The panda turns and says.."I told you once, I'm a Panda Bear."
The Panda pulls a dictionary out of his pocket (he had on a sweater vest), he throws it at the waiter, and says.."Here, look it up." Then walks out the door.
The waiter opens the dictionary and looks up Panda Bear.
It reads.. Panda Bear: (n), Large black and white bear. Native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves.

Now im going to say this one last time. I think being gay is just as wrong as the sins i commit. Im no better and in my opinion if they ask forgiveness they will be saved in my religion. My religion doesnt hold weight to everything. If people go back and read what started this it was because i said i dont like gay guys tryna flirt with me constantly when they already know im not gay. I think its flaterring and a compliment they like me, just like i would a woman, but also just like a woman i wouldnt want them steadily trying to talk me into doing something i dont want to do. I dont think their sins are greater then my sins. Not in this time anyway. In the old Testament when we payed for our own sins, it was punished worse than other sins. That was a different time that Jesus Christ changed for us and made life easier for us. In my opinion. Thats the Christian outlook on it. I think a man can be a Christian and still go to heaven in the end as long as he repents. Ask God to make you who he wants you to be, and he'll do the work. Its not something anyone has to do alone. Just like i didnt have to.

Rick. ???? not that i dont get it, just, no. Im going to bed now. Looking foward to it tommorow tho however. Just remember i have to go to chemo treatment with my grandfather. So i may not be in the understanding mood tommorow i've been in these last couple days.

/me intimidated by wall of text.

Kasper, you fail to realise the simplicity of it: I have NO choice.

When I first began to develop feelings for other men, I tried and tried to convince myself that I wasn't gay. It was no use. I had no choice, no say whatsoever.

And for what it's worth, I don't give a flying-flip about religion and its backward preachings. You may think that quoting the Bible is going to convince me that I'm wrong about being gay, but truth be told: I don't believe that God exists and I don't believe the Bible has any leverage in a debate simply because its not true (in my mind). You would have better luck using quotes from Lord of the Rings than the Bible in an argument with me

You can believe in God all you want (more power to you), but please try use scientific evidence rather than Bible quotes or I will just ignore them.

This isn't an attack on religion.

Thanks for the support Rick

Good luck to your grandfather, Kasper. Hope the chemo goes well

"Reggie___I dont f$#k with no faggots.
Derrick___Why someone want they d%$k smelling like ass all the time?
Travis____I'll beat a nigga ass if they even look at me funny
Quincy___U supposed to take shit out ur ass not put stuff in it"


There's more to a gay partnership than anal... Like I said before, love is love.

Kasper, you need to stop putting words out. You are only trying get attention from peoples side of view. If you can't speak for yourself and do action on behalve of speaking, why bother. Talk is cheap, action says more words than talking crap out of your ass.

You are trying to troll by getting peoples information on their private life. Whats with you?

If you have personal issues, why take it out on others, its yourself to blame for not others. Every one has some kind personal issues, but they keep it to them self.

This thing about God, good luck on your side of life for being christian or what ever you want to call it, but hey, dont' underestimate my power if you ever try and provoke me.

Thank, Anthony.

I think there is a unifying point that most Judeo-Christian beliefs can agree on: If you are heterosexual, do not act on your base desires.
If you are homosexual, do not act on your base desires.
The ACT is the same for all of us (morally speaking, of course); the THOUGHT is the same, whether we be heterosexual or homosexual. Acting on the impulse, desire, lust, call it what you will, for any of us, is the sin, not the orientation itself. Am i right?

My apology. I meant to say Thanks. I left an (s) word out.

Cheers, Anthony.

Edit second time:

Kasper, you need to stop putting words out. You are only trying get attention from peoples side of view. If you can't speak for yourself and can't do action on behalve of speaking, why bother. Talk is cheap, action says more words than talking crap out of your ass.

You are trying to troll by getting peoples information on their private life. Whats with you?

If you have personal issues, why take it out on others, its yourself to blame for not others. Every one has some kind of personal issues, but they keep it to them self.

This thing about God, good luck on your side of life for being christian or what ever you want to call it, but hey, don't underestimate my power if you ever try to provoke me.

Thanks, Anthony.

I had to repost this crap message for recorrecting the spelling errors. It's just my anger got to me about Kasper trying to be what he thinks he is. That is why i made some spelling mistakes which i would not be appreciated.

Any way, forgive me if you can for posting it twice. Anger sometimes can get things wrong when not carefully done. Just my side of view when i see things go wrong. Some people can't help it, some can.

Thanks all, Anthony...

Im going to have more to say ( Little more ) this afternoon when i get home. Anthony, you post as if you havent read from the begining. If you want to weigh in then you should read what i've said and all of what i said.

I just want to know...Tom, do you find me attrative? Barring all the stuff i've said, do you think im nice looking for a 25 year old?

Oh and Maclean, thats very very right! 100%

I know much about what u speak u shouldnt say to much here friend......U Are being Watched

I know much about what u speak u shouldnt say to much here friend......U Are being Watched

I know much about what u speak u shouldnt say to much here friend......U Are being Watched

I know much about what u speak u shouldnt say to much here friend......U Are being watched

Lets say u only know half of it

As to shoes: (--satire alert--): Apparently we need shoe control laws. Ban shoes, people! What does anyone need with 30+ pairs of shoes?? If we could just get rid of the shoes, we would have no more crime or violence. have you ever seen a barefoot murderer? of course not! just look at the statistics: over 99% of muggers wear shoes; ditto burglars, rapists, child molesters, and drug dealers! When are people going to wake up and ban the damn things? shoes are no longer necessary in this modern world, we have carpeting, soft grass, smooth concrete, etc. Shoes are an anachronism whose time has passed, and only the government workers should be able to wear or own any. Especially those concealed shoes which fit into a pocket, and assault shoes, which have high tops and steel toes. In Japan, shoes are not worn in the house, and household crime is relatively low. This proves that shoes cause crime! Anyone who wears shoes is either a criminal, supports criminals, or is a potential criminal. Unless they are Government. Then the more shoes the better. Everyone else should have their shoes confiscated and melted down.

Maclean -
good thing you stated "satire-alert" as I possibly could have been totally offended on this belief about shoes. But, I'll go wif it... I just have a message to everyone in Simcountry:

DUN MESS WIF ME! I gots Shoes and I know how to use them!

Kasper, you heard what i said. I don't give a damn i need to weigh in. I'm just equal as all on this forum who takes part on the convo. I don't give a rats what you say, you show no respect to any one but yourself. I have read most of the post that you posted, you don't know me and i certainly don't want to know you either. I know alot more to it than it meets the eye. So please, don't try be a smartass like you think you are. I know my rights and i know what i am doing and you just skipped my question. I know whats going on, i read things. So don't make me out to be someone that you don't know on what is going on in your thread. Your asking too much. Give in to it or leave.

Thank you, Anthony.

I've edited and removed some things in my posts. I've decided I need to keep my mouth shut. ha ha ha

Oops Drew beat me before I could delete. Sowwy.

Lorelei I have no right to say the religion is false, but I can shoot out some zingers about it. Not that anyone would care. So the money is new I'm proud of it I'm in my 20's go me, poor taste sure, but I did feel it held ground when governing questions arose as once again the biggest problem in this country is income desparity. (atm i have no idea what is in which post now)

I never wanted to instigate a flame war, a topic discussion, or debate is very very different. So when I told him to apoligize I didn't call him a liar like he pushed back at me. I've been very light on insults given how many come directed back at me, so yeah flame war, not my doing.

And I post because I'm interested but when no one is willing to open their mind and are stuck in their ways, there really is no reason to post so much. I am willing to listen to everyone and it isn't impossible to convince me of other ways of thinking however, I try to push facts and I get opinion back. I push ideological conflict and I get insults back. So you're right it probably isn't worth it. Just saying in order for anything like this to ever be constructive maturity needs to be open from each side, no lies, no opinions, just sound conjecture to be deliberated from both sides. My opponents in any of these threads failed to deliver any. Shoes don't have a place in this convo, if you want to argue the blatant over-consumption involved in shoes I definately have an opinion. If you want to discuss the Thai slave labor involved in shoes I definately have an opinion. Good day to most of you, I'll probably be much lighter on posting, unless challenged directly again.

Drew, my desire to discuss shoes is something of a joke between me and the sim community. Surely you do not think I am serious in these discussions? Although I do honestly own more than 78 pairs of shoes. But I forget, you do not know me, my sense of humor, or my game persona.

Your attitude just came across to me as a little snooty. The forums are really not a place for a contest of wills or a demonstration of who can write the most intelligible.

The forum is a place to have fun, discuss game topics and topics of interest in a respectful way that is non-offensive to all parties in the game.

I reread what I wrote relative to you and checked myself, because I thought, you may take it a wrong way. I was playing devils advocate mostly. My references to your hair are my way of playfully picking on you, and I really do not wish to cut it off nor your genitals. lol Just in case you believe that. ha ha ha But I do rather like my nickname for ya, Goldielocks. Do you mind???

We have to ask why did Kasper even initially post about this topic anyways??? If he has anger issues or is threatened by homesexuals making passes at him, take it up with a therapist or learn to deal with it individually. Maybe his ministry should be elsewhere and not in a game forum?? It has nothing to do with Simcountry. These type of threads, which we all attack with vigor are designed to get people talking and involved in the forum is my take. I usually turn the topic to shoes. ha ha ha ha

I KNEW I shouldn't have logged onto Simcountry today. I'm already in trouble. lol But, Drew, I do encourage you to post your opinions. I have to pick on you somehow, some way!!!! I would be interested in seeing how you look today with your short hair. lol :P Change that avatar!

there's been some talk about gay being genetic or not and id like to point out that many traits including being gay (if it is a trait) can be carried and passed on to offspring but not expressed and I didn't know about animals being gay but I'm sure drew knows what hes talking about

it could be some sort of environmental factor but I highly highly doubt it what sort of external factor could cause someone to be gay kasper

Lorelei i used to be such a fun guy, but then it's like let's learn about politics, and let's study philosphy, oh no now I got to get a real job. It's kind of hard to turn that off sometimes. I just need to get drunk more often, like everyday would be good. That'll do it. special present for ya, for lightening the mood, or attempting to. I'll change my avi at least for a little while ;)

edit: I also don't mind the jokes (in fact i appreciate them), I just didn't like it when you said you were going to take me out in game

"The forums are really not a place for a contest of wills or a demonstration of who can write the most intelligible."

This does not begin to say enough.

I smell some insecurities here. If you feel the need to broadcast your sexuality then you cannot feel very secure with it. Which is where my mincers come in.

It also applies to those males that need to appear overly macho. Swaggering about looking they would kill you rather talk to you and giving it large, thinking every girl MUST love them. Bragging about shagging models falls into this catagory, but I'm not sure Drew or Kasper meant to 'brag', hmm, unsure.

And lesbians, they have a sub catagory too, the dress and hair style and manner is quite obvious to me.

So, I think, if you need to shout about it, then you cant be entirely comfortable about it huh... which kind of sways my thinking to homosexuality not being completely natural.

Just a more scientific angle on it than the impossible to prove/disprove religious one.

Hiya BC.

Nah Crafty, i was braggin. Im very proud of it lol

So proud theres videos