Econ tanking lol

Fix the econ rubbish lol

what does econ tanking mean

WHY!!!!!!

So whats going on here? any word from the GM's?

I just told smokes in chat check your order strategies.

my nation kept trying to buy 150,000 drone missiles

i used only 6,000 a month but it was non stop trying to buy 2T at a time.

I have setting at 3low buy 6months, but yet for alot of products its trying to buy them for MUCH more then i need.

Might want to start there

The game has gone mad. My profit loss is half what it was a week ago but my over all cash is going up faster than ever. My score is dropping like a rock but my corps are all growing ... everything is growing but my score is loosing 50 points a rl day along with my profit loss number dropping. But everything is going up this makes no sense.

Also the supply and demand is so insane i do not even know where to start. One day services are at -9,000,000,000, then the next day they are positive like 2,000,000,000... approximately the same number of corps ...not like over night another 500 would be built anyway... This is just one example.

Perhaps this is because so many are talking about their nation buying random stuff at crazy volumes and then the player realizes they might not need 15Q services all too soon then sell it back...But if there is a shortage first of all they should not have been able to buy that much that fast and second the buy would have at the time made the shortage that much worse... and selling it back would bring the shortage back to what it should be not make it go away unless goods in shortage are supplemented behind the scenes by the gm magic somehow...

Nobody can deny that something really weird is going on .. i have not been playing all too long and even i can see it. Would be really nice to have a gm at least acknowledge it is being looked into even if as of yet they dont know what the problem is specifically yet.

fix plz , few $Ts to all nations as compensation

There is no problem, it is a SimWorld recession of course.

The economy is doing just fine.

there is more flexibility in the creation of new corporations because some products are in oversupply and many corporations closed.
now, there is more space to build new corporations and hopefully, shortages will become smaller.

lol

i noticed that in many corporations including medical materials, services and hi tech services production in the corporations increased causing surpluses and making them unprofitable (at least until corps closed)….. is the GM going to explain these changes? are hi volume industries like the aforementioned services, medical materials, and hi tech services among others going to be reduced in size (in terms of size of corps making the product) in favor of creating a wider base of products that are profitable? idk I'm just wondering what sort of rebalancing is going on

oil and high tech services were very profitable on fb before, but now seems very stable without moving up much.

i've suspected some fundamental consumptions have changed?

the big volume of changes, such as between 4B and 8B of oil in an earth day needs to be explained?

Hightech was much the same way on WG and now Software from 2B deficit to 300million+ surplus. Meanwhile Production Plants are still in near constant surplus for some time now, they are not seeing the 60-70 odd plant deficits of old, obviously their prices have tanked as a result as have their profits.
New Corps and Corps closings causing all this flux from deficits to surpluses, while Production plants are not in constant deficits from all the "new" Corps?? Yea, I been watching the Production plant situation lately.
I could definitely be wrong, but I think there is a bit more to this than that.

2 weeks ago... heck even yesterday Services was -9,000,000,000 ...now its in a surplus ...

If your referring to the HT services, I agree. They were always in demand for the longest time, almost to where you can count on it, now the supply seems to be always sliding into the green.

Is it possible that this is an artificial adjustment, rather than natural market fluctuations?

you know, some times players do things like that. that wasn't me, but i have literally seen a single player sell so much, EP, Oil, and FMUs at once, that it took those markets 2-3 RL months to fully recover

I noticed the supply index for HTS spike over 2billion then back down again. Almost like it was pumped into the economy..

its not a sudden spike the GM has been changing production rates for some corps including hi tech services….. (I'm wondering if anyone just read my previous post)

seems like c3s are closing excess corps and the industries will still be profitable just smaller

i would really like to know the GMs thought process… what they think they are doing…. maybe they should warn players who have poured months and years into this game when they are going to fundamentally change the economy by changing production per corp for many products

You just complain whatever happens.

Before, there were shortages for nearly all products and the price did not move as it was at its max.

Now, corporations in C3 countries close quickly when the product is in oversupply.
This reduces the oversupply and allows these countries to start corporations producing products that are in short supply.

It will, we hope, balance the market a bit.

shortages may hopefully be reduced, and prices may change a bit more because if products are in oversupply, the price will fall.

We do not think that shortages will disappear but you asked for corporations to produce more just recently, so if they produce more, what will happen to the price?

The price only depends on shortages or oversupply.

"Huge" volume changes happen all the time.
there are players who do understand the markets and they buy or dump large quantities of product on the market.

this is where these changes come from.

An increase in the number of corporations producing the product can also cause changes but this is easy to see, and the max production is also easy to compute while the dumping of products is also clearly in view for each and every product, each game month.

In addition, if corporations cannot get a raw material, they stop production. Very large shortages can disrupt production.

Andy i have never asked for production of corps to be increased.... all things must be considered in the economy and i wish you would consider considering stuff.... it seems like you just fiddle and tinker and dont tell or collaborate with any people who actually know how the game works to some extent

I have never asked for corporations to produce more. Make surpluses or shortages, whatever floats your boat, makes no difference to me. However consider, if you make surpluses and the price tanks to base price or just above for a product then corporations don't make a profits. At least that is my experience. I watched Market values tank several trillion from this like clockwork. Even tinkered with my CM contracts somewhat, to minimize it as best I could. Naturally I took notice, especially when old reliable shortages disappeared to significant surpluses. Consequently the profits became deficits, it was hard to miss. Production Plants are still in surplus while making deficits. Where are all the new corporations coming from? I have an odd interest in those.
Either way, you cannot just kick things to surplus and not tweak the price mechanisms in kind, that is a significant game changer for Enterprises seeking profits. There is another aspect to this, it takes to long to build a solid profitable corporation with a cushion to close it since you have to pay the Home Country a significant penalty... I don't like closing corporations. Though I would if I could depend on the surplus being there consistently and indefinitely.
If Price depends on shortages (one assumes supply and demand plays a part), then C3s have have to react quicker or the formula for the price has to be slower to adjust down or the swing from surplus to shortage and back should be seriously slower. The way it is now, you cannot close or build corporations with any assurances they will be profitable regardless of quality or remain profitable for long. Enterprises are not countries, operating corporations cost more for them. Well, unless you have tweaked things again or you want us to just build Services at this point, which I am seriously considering. I watched it with the Production plants. Price changed pretty quick depending on the Surplus or the Shortage. Bought a few to watch it since it was close to base, may continue if I figure the Price will ever go up to near where it was.

PLayers may understand and dump mass quantities into the markets, that is fine. Then just tell us this is what happened to Electric Power, Software, Hightech, and whatever else I may have missed. You didn't say that previously though. We all do not have access to that information. Had I, I would have kept my trap shut and soldiered on.

Personally, if I cannot get a product because of shortages, I build a corporation and supply it myself or get it from my Common Market if available. Services are a Prime example. Not one time have I complained about shortages, nor did I ever intend to. My Game is my Enterprise. Shortages are why I build my corporations. If cannot trust the markets to retain some bit of normalcy from one day to the next, why should I as an Enterprise build a new corporation? Unless you intend for us all to be in "build and pray" mode or want us all to just build Services, then honestly we shouldn't...

Most products show large shortages and production must increase. The shortages are too large and as a result, some corporations are unable to produce, or only partially able to produce and shortages become even worse.

even with two small increases recently, shortages continue to the point that some people think the price does not depend on supply and demand.

It only depends on supply and demand.

quality is taken into account when a transaction takes place but that is the trivial part.

the main issue is: is there a surplus or a shortage.

The markets are in fact unchanged from a month ago.

shortages of services were at 30B now maybe at 20B. but the price does not depend on how much shortage. 20B is for the market the same as 30B.

you should find out how many corporations are in fact needed and decide if you want to create some of them.

we will not fix shortages, nor remove the surplus. The market has always fixed itself on its own.
Surplus leads to the closing of corporations and then, with more manpower available, the creation of new corporations for products that are in short supply.

hopefully, this process will slowly balance the market.

You can in fact make things happen, instead you wonder what happened.