The Rules of War

SCOWL!!!! I like Heisenberg. Tread kindly or I'll throw a shoe at YOU! :P Inventor, beware!

If anyone is unkind it's Heisenberg, he's pretty much started every argument and he isn't even involved in the war game, but yet he posted on this thread and on other threads which were obviously intended for war players.

The first words you said to me when you entered the chat the first time I ever saw you were "Shut up noob, what do you know?"

Y'know. There's a lot of things in this world we all learn to let go. They just aren't worth arguing about. I, too, over my lifetime have encountered people and things that you just need to let go. Like getting pulled over. It happens. Can't really do anything about it. So you learn to live with it.

One thing I refuse to let go. Just one. Liars who play the victim card. I'll be seeing you soon. Peace.

Dear Inventor,

So, what you are telling me is that if you don't necessarily play the war game, you don't get to have an opinion or post on the topic? I disagree totally. There is a difference between argument and debating ideas and opinions. :-)

I've chatted quite a bit with Heisenberg and find him lovely. Oh and don't be fooled, you might deem him a "noob", but my feeling is he's been around before and if that IS the case, WATCH OUT! :-) he he

It's okay, Inventor, it is differences in opinion that make this game and its members enjoyable. Don't worry, I dun throw shoes anymore! :P

Tolling, trolling, trolling, though the streams are swollen ...

This thread is intended to discuss ways the war game could be improved, if you haven't participated in the war game why should you decide how it should be improved if you don't even know why it's bad. Also it's obvious Heisenberg's last post is a complete lie like most of his factless posts based on pure fiction. Finally if you ever wonder why players like Heisenberg think the war game is fine the way it is you should realize it's because they don't know how bad it is.


Said by Heisenberg; "I can't seem to figure out why there are complaints about this" (June 8, 2017 - 03:32; Post #40 under Rules of War)

The reason why you can't figure out why there are so many complaints about war levels is because you haven't played the war game, except against maybe a C3. If you don't know why so many people think the war game needs improvement maybe you should show some consideration before simply starting an argument.


Also Wicked Lady I don't mean to insult you but I think Heisenberg should think twice about a major issue such as war levels if he doesn't know why so many people dislike war levels. Especially since he probably still doesn't fully understand the issue.

As a vet and long time player, I strongly disagree with you inventor. In the past, some of the best war game ideas have come from people who are in secure mode and didn't play the war game.

I've been here many years and I have seen some very good and some very bad changes to SC. Overall, in most cases the war updates have strongly benefited the player base even though we disagreed with them at first. I love your enthusiasm, but remember that everyone's opinion is equal in regards to how to help grow the game. Like it or not the War levels are here to stay and we as a player base need to rally around changes that can help. Devaluing the opinion of another because they might know less is reckless and dangerous. You said "Especially since he probably still doesn't fully understand the issue." In that case should I, Aries, or any other war vet look down on you because "YOU" know less then we do?

We need input from all the war levels to weigh in on what we should see changed. Mainly because its only when we have a large range of ideas can we make SC better. The war level are here to stay and no one update will make it better, the honest truth is that it will take many small changes to make it work, not just one big one.

Dear Inventor,

I am not insulted by what you say in reference to my comment. I liked the old days in this game when there were less restrictions. The days when you could raid and plunder for game assets. The fun of being in a federation, where as a group, you helped each other, defended each other, learned from each other. The days when you had to pay for War Protection if you needed it. I paid for plenty. lol The old days of federation wars. There was much war excitement then.

But as Ryan says above, those days are gone and the new rules exist. I don't know much about the game these days, but I feel it was the game's way of evening the playing field. To get an honest opinion, you need to ask players like Aries, Super, Wendy, Josias, Casual Industries who are some of the most wonderful contributors to this game in the war area, both past and present. They are also strong econ players too.

What I think I am hearing from you is you thirst for the war game. I can't fault you for that. But as Ryan says above, you have to respect other players opinions as well.

To close, I'm offering my two cents here, and I don't play the game at all! lol :P

BUT, I am Andy's mother, so be mindful to not offendeth the gamemaster's wicked Mom!!!!

EC - I have been trying to remember who you are. El Christian???

theinventor1012 FYI,

1. Heisenberg may be rusty when it comes to war however, he's got a lot more PVP experience than you do.

2. Not only is he building quick, but he's got people pointing out changes to this game.

3. His FED on GR is active players who are also experienced in the PVP war game from the days when all worlds had PVP wars going 24/7. Even with everyone else neutral, FED defense is FED defense your high quality mobile units are not going to have an easy time.

4. He IS coming after you, it might be wise to buy as much time as possible by NOT poking him with a stick every time you see him.

You'd be better off getting your economy straight so you can login and get some active military or at least ammo staged in your countries. Those mobiles won't do you any good if you can't drop them.

I'm sorry but you keep conflating exactly what is going on here, inventor. My comment you quoted outside the context in which it was written. I was comparing the benefits of both ways of playing and pointing out that war players make much more off leveling up and raiding than eco players do. That's just a fact. I'm sorry you don't see it that way, but I'm not here to talk about your mental deficiencies. Your "so many people" adds up to about ten. That isn't "so many people", it's two handfuls. So many people would be maybe more than 50% of the playerbase or more. Your argument has been and continues to be irrelevant. Your want for war level change is clearly documented. My fighting or lack thereof holds no bearing on my ability to form an opinion after research in both documents and living breathing players.

Let's get one thing straight here, junior. I'm a grown ass man with the ability to reason and pass judgement on a wide variety of topics. Your opinion on my intelligence is not wanted, needed...nor will be heeded. I have spent the last three months or so studying this model, conversing with long time players and getting to the bottom of this issue. And, until now, the only reason you have stated for wanting WL's gone is that you're frustrated that you can't attack anyone. That sounds like a personal problem, not a problem for the community as a whole. My reasoning on the other hand, is expansive and in depth. I'm not often called stupid, but when I am called stupid by an utter moron, I just have to smile.

That said, I already stated I'm done talking to you. I have taken about all the belittlement I plan to, and as I said before....I'll see you soon.

Sounds like threats are being made and buttons are being pushed to get a reaction, so the question is - are you going to just be a pawn in somebody's mind games and have your strings pulled like a puppet? Decisions, decisions, just make sure you make the right choice about what you want to happen to War Levels........?

Maybe it's good if everyone thinks I'm completely incapable of launching any military attack. It's certainly good strategically, maybe I have no war experience at all. Let's just say all my wars have been against inactives that were poorly defended. Let Heisenberg come after me, but for now he hides behind war levels. Heisen I dare you to attack a C3 to get to war level 3. Then I will be happily awaiting the day you declare against me.

Heisenberg I think you should realize why players above war level 2 are still around such as Yankee and me.

Anyway who knows if I even have mobiles? Let's just say I have no military assets and assume the ones I have are just jeeps for decoration. Sounds good to me Heisenberg, we can finally agree on something (I have 0 useful military assets besides a bunch of supply units)

#60 go off the rails and the topic

Good point this thread was intended to discuss the rules of war not war levels.

#61 simcountry is to inactive

#62 When you don't realize someone is talking about you :3

#63 When someone makes a stupid lie that's obviously not true

Awwww did I hurt your wittle feewings by catching you in a lie?


Good. Choke on it.

#64 When your opponent is nothing but a gaping vagina.

#65 When your opponent has 0 war experience

#66 When your opponent's nickname is inventard for a reason.

#67 when you love conflict
#68 do we even need war?

#69 <<<<<<< make love not war ?

#70 Visualize whirled peas ...

#71 My General told me to start a war because the military needed more funding.