2016 Obama Movie

It is a Sad day for the un united states of America indeed! ;(

How could you say its a sad day for your country dont be ridiculous Shave think and be thankfull that you have a president and that your country is safe and democratic.
Some people's nation is ripped in civil war or dominated by a single party. I mean a dictator didn't win leadership of the United States think about it, maybe your Romney will run next time... yes?

I think, Wolfie, what he is saying is that we are sad that our candidate of choice was not chosen. We are not big advocates of big government and that is what Obama and his party support.

Crafty's mean. =(. I didn't say he won FL I said of he wins either at the juncture 270 votes would be his and it'd be over. But Jan and Shave you kept the house and the senate is about the same. +1 independant, -1 Dem, and with the 4 contested you can't win the senate but you can make the midterm elections easier.

they are all advocates of big government in one way or another....unless you want to vote for libertarians...they are mostly whacko though

I breathed a deep sigh of relief for women, gay folks, and the environment this morning. I very quickly breathed a deep groan of frustration, because Obama is not nearly forceful enough on these issues.

And when someone convinces me that the free market will look after the poor and ensure that they get a fair shake, then I'll vote libertarian. I SO want Romney's economic ideals to be valid, but it leaves, oh, about 47% of the country out to dry. I hate how big the government is - I want them to just leave me alone and stop spending my money. But I've spent too much time with people who worked two or three jobs and only kept their heads above water because of their welfare checks. When the system stops being rigged, I'll stop voting blue.

Do you look after the poor? If you answered yes, then the "free market" has decided to look after the poor. Because in a "free market", YOU are the welfare system.

Anyway, guess there was something about campaign finance on the ballot. I voted against corporations and unions deducting money for political contributions from employee paychecks without their consent. Looks like the other side won. I don't know... seemed pretty cut and dried to me.

Ah there I slightly misunderstood. Well it seems most people is disappointed, I hope your country goes for the better.

Own welfare system? You do realize what certain individuals use as tax write off charitable donations? You are also aware that there are those who would rather shovel third disposable income into campaigns instead of something that matters? If people don't hold a good job then they should find a better one but we still need people to fill those low level jobs. Your whole mentality is evil and self servicing and not until the system is fair do we as a nation have any right to adopt th r crap you are spewing

I'd probably be lessed stressed and drive a finer car if I just quit my job and draw my check from the government. ha ha ha ha This is what Obama inspires people to do. :P

You see, this is why I should become ruler of the North American Empire. Then everyone will be happy.

Wouldn't you love that Lorelei, I myself would go and buy you a fancy car so you are less stressed. And some shoes now that we're on it. How about a Grande Tour through Europe

So would you be annexing Canada and Mexico Tallis?? lol

I'd probably be lessed stressed and drive a finer car if I just quit my job and draw my check from the government. ha ha ha ha This is what Obama inspires people to do. :P

yah I hope your not serious

Mizore - No, I don't. I don't have much extra cash floating around, as a grad student; I also don't have the knowledge or reach to get that money to people who need it most. How many charities do you know of who can support families during stressed times - not just provide a meal or a room for a night? The reason we have federal welfare is because the free markets and the states completely failed millions of Americans during the Great Depression. That is what unregulated markets do - they bubble and crash - so the times when the most people need help are precisely the times when charities are most strapped for cash.

KoD - It really depends on where you live. If you're Hawaiian, then you could make $36,000 a year on Welfare. On the other hand, if you live in Mississippi, you'd have to scrape by on ~$11,000 a year. Most states are on the lower end of that spectrum. Oh, I almost forgot the kicker: this is for a mother with two kids, who ALSO happens to qualify for every extra benefit possible. Do you think you and your two kids would be living in luxury on $1000/month?

I find it strange that I keep hearing the same two criticisms of Obama: 1. Unemployment is too high. 2. Obama's welfare state is discouraging everyone from wanting to work.
But these don't really mesh well, because unemployment rates only count people who are looking for work. If everyone's content to get their checks from the government, why are they looking for jobs?

- Welfare in some (about 1/3) states is too high. It could definitely discourage job seeking, especially if the person has low standards, anyway.
- Welfare recipients cannot stay on the federal TANF program for longer than 2 years without finding a job.
- Welfare is not luxurious, even in the highest-paying states.
- Federal welfare can't be diminished without tremendous backlash. The problem is that it really SHOULD be, or else the US government will eventually be on Chinese food stamps.
- Welfare functions as it should for most people on it: as a temporary safety net that can prevent homelessness until a new job can be found.
- Fewer than 5% of Americans are on welfare - that's not even 1/3 of people below the poverty rate. I didn't realize it was that low.

(By the way, thank you for bringing this up, because it was a great excuse to learn more about how our welfare system currently works. I found some things that I would change, but it's actually more restricted than I thought.)

Motivating the workforce is simple though, increase minimum wage to 15 bucks then people will work to get the standard they can get with a welfare program. The problem is because capitalism doesn't work inflation would pick up like crazy. =)

Or, simpler yet, do as the commie/socialist countries do, and simply tell them if they don't get motivated, they and their families and friends will all be shot.

America is a masonic Fascist Plutocracy. We have given our sovereignty to the corporation called the Federal Government in Washington D.C. Our Sovereignty is in the Bill of rights. The rest of the constitution are the laws of the corporation. We are not suppose to be american citizens. We are suppose to be citizens of what ever state you are from living in the federation of the United states. This is the true form of the Republic, but we hired this corporation to be the middle man between the states, and they have taken over the power of the states, and the sovereignty from its people. Every time you say you are a US citizen and conform to the laws congress passed, you give up your freedom, and sovereignty. We do not ever look into the clause in the Bill of rights that says we are to overthrow any government that infringes on the sovereignty of any person in any state. The federal Reserve System is an infringement on our sovereignty. I like to see somebody make a documentary on that. I am sure it would not get off the blog to which it was written.

hezekiah what are you talking about are you ill?

its not like the state and federal governments are intrinsically diiferent you are just being ridiculous

Yeah the confusing tenth amendment again. Strong state government is stupid.

i think the state governments are fantastically useful for encouraging democracy and making sure people get what they want in such a large and diverse country i agree with the idea that the states are the test tubes for democracy...im just saying the federal government isnt evil neither are the state governments id imagine they both have the same levels of corruption

Hezekiah, the last time people thought like that the Confederate States of America was formed and, in around four to five years, abolished.

indeed

Mind you, if given a choice between the United States of America and Virginia my answer is this: Whilst I do love America, I love Virginia more.

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