Aristotle on Politics (Kebir Blue)

i agree with you Scarlet. Kennedy was often labeled as being part of the New World Order.

Cold Rolling--why don't you start a thread?

There really can be only ONE truth

I'm not saying that I know it just that I'm closer than most.

I'm still waiting on a coherent response from Jojo. LOL!

SG--same old, same old. No solutions offered.

LOL I'm almost sorry I don't watch mainstream news any more!


(It's full of solution Parsifal~ Speak out! Step 1: Identify the problem.)

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But they've been informing for over sixty years. They keep saying that armageddon is at hand and the world is coming to an end or that we're losing our freedom. They lose their credibility. Information without action is useless. From the TV evangelist who says to send them money to send the message that the end times are at hand to LaRouche with his convuluted message, to those who say alien spacecraft land in 1948, to Kennedy being assassinated by a conspiracy, it's all the same. It's true that there are bad people out there and we should put criminals behind bars. But let's not take away our freedom in the process.

Freedom is a state of mind and you can be held hostage by your own thoughts and addictions or you can see yourself as not being in bondage to the "dominate culture". Most of them are false prophets.

We are living in the same solar system right?

I would expect you to say something like that if it was evident that it was business as usual rather than being obvious that we are being ushered into a police state. You're coming from the perspective that nobody's been proven right over the last sixty years, erroneous assumption. The evidence is overwhelming.

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How is anyone losing credibility if this is what's happening?

The problem is that we don't see a clear cut solution, but the answer to this is not to deny the problem.


...but I'm up for a subject change

Parsifal, I agree. There isn't any dire emergency. I might not have been clear earlier, but I don't think anything is happening quickly... because I don't think anyone is behind the gradual loss of freedom. If someone were behind it with some dark agenda, we would already have been led into the police state before I was born. I don't think there is any clear end, just that a slow, gradual slide toward state property and autocracy is occurring is the tiniest steps. One person in the right place at the right time could probably turn it around, but right place and right time would probably so coincidental and obscure as to not be known. Maybe the 52nd president gets the idea in his head at a young age that if he isn't entitled to anything he didn't earn, then nobody is. Maybe someone who'll be remembered as a history-maker winds up being introduced to Emerson instead of Sartre, Rand instead of Marx, Dostoevsky instead of Ellis. Maybe somebody decides to become a businessman rather than a politician or the other way around. Maybe the right tax fails. Maybe the wrong law passes.

When I said several times that the greater good needs to be forgotten, it's because the only reason anyone would willingly give up their freedom is to achieve some kind of good that supercedes themselves or to fight some sort of evil that supercedes themselves. In my mind, the threat IS the gradual loss of freedom for any cause. My solution is to oppose any loss of any freedom whatsoever, no matter how noble the cause may be; to oppose everything that professes to improve the public good at individual expense.

At the current rate, I'll probably be dead before the US becomes a police state, if it even does. However, it seems that China has begun a similar gradual slide toward a free society. This should help explain the nature of the change I think is occurring. We are becoming unfree at the rate China is becoming free... the speed at which glass flows (it's a liquid you know).

As far as changing the subject, it'll change when everyone quits talking about it. I'm not sure that I would like to just yet.

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Freedom is a state of mind and you can be held hostage by your own thoughts and addictions or you can see yourself as not being in bondage to the "dominate culture". Most of them are false prophets.<!-/Quote-!>

The vast majority of people would agree with you.

even in "free" societies there is control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zPVa0_6gxc

A coherent response to an incoherent response to my question will not be forthcoming.

You have successfully responded to a coherent response and subsequent request for a coherent response incoherently. Congratulations and "check" and "mate"!

I once witnessed a checkmate without either player taking any pieces. It was the single greatest game I ever witnessed.

The two Koreas have exchanged fire and South Korea is scrambling fighter jets.

Looks like it is ON and POPPIN on the Korean Peninsula. I wonder how this will suck the US into another war.

GoodNight, I hope to not be at war with North Korea by the time we wake up. LOL

Weighing in on Dutch healthcare system.

So, how does the Dutch system work?


Their system is fairly simple, everyone is required to purchase insurance from highly-regulated private providers. They describe it as "private health insurance with social conditions". Insurers are tightly regulated for quality, provision of basic services, and to prevent discrimination, as they are required to accept everyone in their coverage area at a flat rate, no matter what their health status. To prevent loss of profitability from chronically-ill patients, they have a risk equalization system so that rather than losing profits from recruiting sicker patients, insurance companies are compensated for providing service to those patients who need it most. And if a citizen wants to change companies, or buy additional insurance they are free to. It's a system that encourages competition, but is regulated to prevent the companies from selecting only healthy patients, or otherwise abusing the system to prevent health care provision to sick people. The incentives are designed to provide excellent care to as many people as possible, cheaply and efficiently no matter what their health status, rather than the perverse US system in which the incentives are to deny care and only sign on the healthy. The government even runs a website allowing patients to comparison shop among the different insurance companies and hospitals based upon their ratings for quality, outcomes and performance indicators.

A survey of health satisfaction comparing the US and several other countries, including the Netherlands, showed that the Netherlands led the pack in most measures of patient satisfaction and provision of care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUje1Fc2ajc

SG- yes it's all Canada's fault. lol

It aint over 'til the fat lady sings

Korea