Poll: Who stirs the pot the most?

well Germany declared war on the US in WW2 so we were basically dragged into that one

afterwards it was Decided that Germany must be dealt with before Japan I assume because the fall of England would make any American invasion impossible so speed was essential in that theater

The US declared war on Japan and Japan's allies obviously declared war on the US. My point is not that though...

China is nothing compared to the US lol. China doesn't stand a chance :S

I think Lusty's point was that China would be a more worthy adversary than Russia...

Interesting argument and I'm sure it will be clearly true in another 5 years...but, China is only really starting to have a proper, white water navy (the just got their first carrier the other year but more will soon be following). China has some decent aircraft, but would be hard pressed to keep up with the U.S air support out of Guam, Korea, Japan and the 7th fleet.

There is a reason why China feels encircled by U.S forces and U.S allies. It partly is. The only strong powers nearby who aren't part of the U.S bloc are also regarded in China as being unstable and bad for the economy (North Korea and Russia).

Actually, on the terms of aircraft I just remembered something. Russia is modifying their 5th generation fighters to operate with 6th gen capabilities and even though they have bugs and kinks, they are already better than American 6th gen planes. An American pilot admitted this when he was allowed to test fly one when American and Russia were still bum buddies.

Ian aircraft are just 1 part of this. we still use more the just those. Of course if that is if we need anyone to fly the drone in cockpit.

my argument only simply if russia, china, NK, iran, and some other middle eastern countries don't come together this whole argument will end mute.

It would be the same for Germany, a very strong foe on its own, but to run more offensives, they needed Italy and Japan in WW2. Japan makes it possible to run in to Asia better. While Italy was a strategic partner for a southern expansive front. Mean time Germany is pushing towards the heavier armies of France and Britain.

Hence, it would be the combination of several small armies causing problems and road blocks combined with the more advanced and larger armies that would make a network that is not as strong on the tech side as the US and its allies ATM, but would make it larger than the US and its allies.
China has a large land force and men to sacrifice. What do you do when 10 million come marching west? Plus you can never underestimate china or russia's underground US like projects that are going on. China has a lot of cities with no population ready for mass population like millions. So are they doing something under ground? are they read in case of disaster or war wipes out a huge city?
Just like in US tech, it jumped in past 30 years, then starts to curve to a slower pace, while these other mentioned are on their 30 year rise and then with level out. We should not underestimate the climate of the world's affairs (ie economics, politics, ect..) and what resolve and determination someone has in desperate times. a lot of people can attest to losing it at some point in life and going out of control for a moment... well if it get irrational like that in the world then its like mob mentality and it will lead to no good. just like on this forum, tempers can flare and lead to consequences, rational or irrational.
I think a lot of what is said is valid. I just don't think this as US vs Russia, it seems more is at play here. I think it would be a long war if it ever went down and I bet Kennedy had that fear during the cuban missile crisis.

All im saying is that you can usually get a general idea of a country's military capability from its defense spending. China's defense spending is around 150 billion(which dwarfs Russia's spending btw) and has been steadily rising while American and other NATO country's defense spending has been declining. America's military spending is still far higher at around 650 billion and obviously we have better tech and experience but I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese spending reaches 300 billion in the next 20 yrs. They've also spent a great deal of money and time investing in land based anti aircraft and anti aircraft carrier batteries which would directly counter American presence in the region as these are the main ways America projects power in the Pacific