State of the World Address

Im all for stability but if something is broke fix it.

What there asking for though is something you say you want? That's why I got the impression your for the levels.

Something has to change about fed's in war. The current system is no good.

wendy it is a fact that after i chased you off LU, taking FOUR of your countries and you only taking ONE of mine in 3 wars that youve made up excuses to attack me in. Only after you were gone over a real month i went up war lvls to get 6T in c3 wars instead of 5T and then the game master did change the rules that you could only fight within 2 war levels instead of 3. If your so tuff why do you stay at war level 2 on FB THE WAR WORLD ,what a joke Im not afraid of you one bit and im not or never did run from you, the way i see it its 3 to 1 in my favor as is . If you want to war meet me on GR where you are war level 3 and i am war level 3 .. i do find suspicious how you waited for me to go to war level 6 before you came back to LU ?? wendy your an economic power house you have many other option other than war to exact your revenge, if a noob hostile bids one of your corps (which im sure you have thousands of and wouldnt be hard to do if you were new) then you could easily bid on 3 or 6 of his til he got the point, i dont think its really about the hostile bid i think this all steams from super and i being products of scarlet and the IDC and your hell bent on wipeing out all remenances of it .

excuse me FOUR to ONE ....Bring It !

if you want a challenge wendy move up to war level 4 on LU and youll have a chance to take back one of the countries i took from you, APACHE TRIBE

Jack, you have quite an imagination. But let me get serious with you for just a minute.

Not a soul here other than your DeDmates believe a word of what you said.

whatever, you know im right.

i believe jack

I believe in Santa.

Well Well, Josias. I'm not surprised.

However, you can believe whatever you want, it doesn't mean it is true. Lots of Kids believe in Santa, but we all know the truth on that.

I have some logs, based in reality to verify my claims. I carpet nuked Jack's empire twice. The last time, I took one real country(with real swag in it) and flattened the rest.

I don't have to fabricate stuff or pass pom-poms to players like Josias.

May 2,2012

5:15:39 PM) {Ru}>Victim: I have offered Jack terms once, but he refused to agree to them. Which is why I have continued these hostilities
(5:15:59 PM) redman: Were they fair terms?
(5:16:16 PM) Victim: Maybe when he visits the chatroom. You can convince him. To entertain my terms once again.
(5:16:37 PM) Victim: They were more than fair considering he could keep his once fruitful empire intact.
(5:17:05 PM) Victim: Now all he has are 8 c3s, 1 stripped country and the two he just bought from Crazyeye
(5:17:55 PM) Victim: Hm, It appears Josias is positioning himself to interfere in the war....
(5:18:39 PM) Victim: I think I have a copy of the terms somehwere
(5:18:40 PM) redman: Is that orbiter?
(5:18:45 PM) Victim: yes
(5:19:01 PM) redman: Maybe you have beat jack up enough?
(5:21:21 PM) Victim: he hasn't surrendered.
(5:21:28 PM) Victim: I doubt he will.
(5:21:39 PM) Victim: Ask him how he feels when he comes to chat.
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(5/2/2012 9:49:39 PM) jackseptic: hello
(5/2/2012 9:49:40 PM) wolskyj: hows it going jack
(5/2/2012 9:50:10 PM) jackseptic: just checking in ..looks like im still getting nuked lol
(5/2/2012 9:51:00 PM) wolskyj: lol
(5/2/2012 10:16:25 PM) wolskyj: same here
(10:18:42 PM) wolskyj: cool
(10:54:09 PM) Victim: Jack... The solution is not more interceptor missiles.
(10:54:21 PM) Victim: Terms Foo...
(10:55:27 PM) Victim: The interceptors and their missiles are only an expensive form of prolonging the inevitable...
(11:07:59 PM) Victim: I would think of a new strategy soon. Like perhaps coming to terms foo! I would hate to have to scrape you a third time.
(11:10:17 PM) Victim: well. Have a good night. And don't forget, despite the hostility, I am always open for negotiation.

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And Jack in his own words...

May 4, 2012

(3:04:21 AM) Victim: Now, for the last point. I'll need a public condemnation of corporate partner and his hostile bidding. Then we can seal this bad boy up.
(3:04:38 AM) Victim: Oh, you want me to compensate you?
(3:04:57 AM) jackseptic: yes please
(3:05:46 AM) Victim: Hm, well now we would definitely ask that you take much stronger measures than the present terms. I wasn't aware that we were negotiating for compensation, but rather for peace.
(3:06:23 AM) jackseptic: oh this is true
(3:06:47 AM) jackseptic: so kick that last part right out to
(3:08:50 AM) Victim: Well this interests me. How much do you think you have lost, in weapons, ammo, corps and population.
(3:08:56 AM) Victim: Throw me a number.
(3:09:08 AM) spacegeneral: 30T
(3:09:10 AM) Victim: Let me consider a counter for compensation at least.
(3:09:21 AM) Victim: silence super.
(3:09:54 AM) spacegeneral: im not super
(3:10:11 AM) spacegeneral: im spacegeneral, please its space or gen
(3:10:16 AM) jackseptic: lol
(3:10:17 AM) Victim: errrr yeah you are
(3:10:36 AM) Victim: I'm not wendy :s
(3:11:23 AM) Victim: give me a number jack.
(3:11:53 AM) jackseptic: 100T
(3:12:13 AM) spacegeneral: maybe i should keep talking
(3:12:26 AM) jackseptic: quit super
(3:12:39 AM) spacegeneral: ok
(3:17:40 AM) Victim: 100T?
(3:17:52 AM) Victim: I was thinking more towards super's end
(3:19:04 AM) Victim: okay you can talk now super
(3:19:09 AM) Victim: lol
(3:19:35 AM) Victim: Can you break that down so I can possibly see how you may have lot 100T
(3:19:40 AM) jackseptic: are you conidering all the damage ive inncurred in your last TWO conquest ?
(3:20:29 AM) Victim: Wow. I see. No I was thinking about this one.
(3:20:53 AM) jackseptic: ok well ive lost a hole lot wendy
(3:21:05 AM) jackseptic: you may not realize
(3:21:22 AM) Victim: I think the repurcussions will have to be a lot stronger against CorporatePartner for you to get 100T out of me.
(3:21:36 AM) jackseptic: and was at game lvl 7 going for 8 when you attacked this time
(3:21:45 AM) Victim: But yes I do know you have lost a lot in this war. The high Quality Weapons, The ammo.
(3:22:38 AM) Victim: I'm going to be honest though. You'll have to do a 180 on CP to get me to release that kind of funds

And... more Jack..

May 7, 2012

Gravedigger is me lol.

(4:01:36 AM) GraVeDiGGer: lol, its cool I'm the only one who needs to read them so no biggie
(4:01:44 AM) GraVeDiGGer: type away
(4:02:18 AM) falcien: Well their arogant
(4:02:38 AM) falcien: Scarlet and jack septic pretty much was talking about nuking both of us in the kebir blue chat room
(4:02:44 AM) falcien: I steped in on it and surprised the,m
(4:02:45 AM) GraVeDiGGer: lol
(4:03:00 AM) GraVeDiGGer: Do you know what I was doing all this week falcien
(4:03:06 AM) falcien: ??
(4:03:17 AM) falcien: War on LU
(4:03:30 AM) GraVeDiGGer: Taking Jacks two best countries on LU. I took one but left him the other as I had nuked it so many times it was worthless to take
(4:03:41 AM) falcien: LMAO
(4:03:52 AM) GraVeDiGGer: they are just desperate lol
(4:03:59 AM) brainmuncher: Omg

Just thought I would add

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If both these players moved up the war levels to avoid warring a level 3, how can they be justified in being able to declare on a level 3, when they feel like it? Fed or not, that doesn't make sense. <!-/Quote-!>

which is NOT what those two are saying.

The point is about being able to defend your fed mates, not dec on anyone at random at different WLs, just a fufilment of the fed dec rules. No one was saying that should be able to dec first, just respond to a dec against one of their fed mates. A big difference.

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I honestly believe in Wendy lol, I've witnessed her wrath and fighting here in White Giant.

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i removed my posts, because i really am trying to be mellow. anyways, i still believe jack.

@Crafty, it still doesn't sound right.

The war levels were made to separate. If you moved yourself into a higher class, you should not be able to move down, counter-dec down. If not the whole system is pointless.

And then after all is said and done, it still won't be enough. They'll demand more changes and have you on the sideline trying to justify their righteous cause.

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@Orbiter... no one cares lol. And uh.. Merry X-mas to you too?

Thank you crafty

I know and accept that i should not be able to dec a war level 3 when im war level 7. When "DECCING" someone i should follow those rules. When i "SIGNED" the war dec for a fed that should be he only time a higher war level should fight a lower.

What if it was the other way round what if 2 higher levels where fighting and a LOWER level wanted to help, should he/she be told.

No your to low a war level so we deem you to be to incompetent to fight these people?

***yaaawns***

Super go start a vote.

Dont thank me Super, I'm impartial in your issues with Jack and Wendy.

I was just trying to see things from an outsiders point of view. I'll try to keep my nose out of it now.

anyways, i lost a game of chess, the guy forced the stupid bishop knight thing into the corner, and i got both for my rook, with the right pawns outta the way i was in command, and i out thought a pawn move, and vola, i lose... i do love that chess server, thanks bunches!!

like i said im war level 3 on GR if youve got any problems with me ILL MEET YOU THERE !! cause im pretty sure that i caused alot more damage in taking your 4 countries then you did to any of mine ..never got below an 90 war index fighting you so like i said im not scared oh and i landed alot more nukes than you did ..you forget to talk about all that thou lol

Its not CREEPY AT ALL that people save chat convos from 6months ago...

Super, the client is called pidgin, and IT saves the logs. I just like the fact that they are there so when you or Jack attempt to twist history, it is there to stare you in the face.

That story was pretty cool until I popped those logs out huh? Took you all day to respond. Poor Form children, poor form.

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ArCUK, before joining your fed Jack, was a member of Sons of Light. I left LU after beating your empire into a pulp, and then he joined you soon after. Not sure why, perhaps he felt pity for you.

He actually gave me the ground access to Crazyville, CrazyEye and watched me take one and level the other.

So the nonsense about never going below 90 WI, is pretty funny. When you take a country, obviously the War index hits 0. You must be pretty desperate to save face, the lying route isn't working try another approach.

Keep smoking whatever it is... must be some good ish :s

It is very interesting that in the start of this, my intention was to avoid a hostile bid by a member of JackSeptic's federation from going through in my CEO.

Initially, I thought it was done intentionally. I can see that following the posts in this thread that my initial hypothesis is supported after all this posturing by Jack and his inability to address the problem and instead trying to provoke a negative response from me.

Indeed, there will be a response, on LU where the infraction occurred, FIRST. And then in other worlds as I see it fit. I understand that need for redemption Jack, but you have lowered yourself to a level below a simply defeated presence, and instead have occupied a station of further self-inflicted humiliation. Which again, in turn fuels an even stronger desire for some semblance of redemption.

Let me remind you, there is nothing wrong with admitting a loss. You would not be in weak company, in reality many a president more powerful and skilled than yourself share your station there in those ranks. You are certainly not alone.

Indeed, you did take 4 c3 countries from me, if you can call it taking. My child, if you don't learn the insignificance of these battle staging grounds you will never progress to a level where you could challenge me for the crown I do wear so proudly, given to me by the late great Tattooed Priest. A match with you and I would not truly be a challenge, it would be likened unto a swatter, utterly swatting a fly.

If you can justify bragging about conquering a few insignificant c3s while losing your entire empire, save your main, including two war slaves recently acquired from crazyeye, you have much to learn then grasshopper.

I will indeed offer you a chance at redemption. BUT, it will come as a surprise to only you yourself that the end result may very well end in further embarrassment. With such a challenge, you couple senseless boasts when the entire world of sim knows the truth.

Yet, how can you come into an armed conflict, ruled by your emotions, willing to twist reality to give off a certain appearance of strength when in reality you operate from a platform of weakness.

In my mercy, I try to reconcile your actions with your heightened state of emotion. Truly, I say to you, as a woman, I do understand your current dilema, trying to tame your emotions and transferring those feelings into rational thought. No one person here identifies with your situation more than I.

I have tried to keep these considerations in mind when I contemplate a just punishment for your actions. After all, you are only human. I can relate with that. However, you have acted foolishly and filled your mouth with big words and a tall order that you know in your heart you cannot deliver. Nevertheless, when the time comes, I shall spank thy buttocks again, this I promise you. Hardheaded children never learn.

Have a nice day. And think before you type in the future.

I have no stake in this, but since Jackseptic asked for my advise in chat the other day, I have a couple of questions.

Where is the "noob" in all of this, who caused this conflict? Surprising...very quiet indeed.

Jack, per my recommendation, has any attempts been made towards making retribution to Wendy for the "hostile" bid?

I recommended an attempt towards diplomacy in this conflict, but I'm not seeing this from your posts. I see them as further flaming the issue, not coming to any peaceful resolution.

Therefore, I'm confused from our discussion the other day. Just saying. I'm taking no sides, as utlimately, this IS the game, whether you agree with Wendy or not. As a leader, she has the right to decide whether she feels wronged. Just as you do, Jack.

I wish you both well and hope it can be settled peacefully, unless you wish to just have a good old fashion fight. *winks