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State of the World Address

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King Hezekiah II
21 Nov 2012 22:13 Link
Greetings My fellow Little Upsilonians.

The State of the World is incomplete!! We have no organization as of right now per say. We have through the nations and Empires who love LU build a semi functioning World Government on LU. There are 3 Branches to this government.

There is an executive Branch, which is the Secretary General, Secretaries of State, Justice, Treasury, & LU Security. We thank the Heads of State who participate in this executive Branch like King Lord Arbuckle, who is the secretary of Treasury. Chief Jackseptic who is the Secretary of State. President Slayerofgods who is the Secretary of Justice, and last but certainly not least King Herod VI who is the Secretary of LU Security. This is one of the branches that is fully functioning and has average participation.

There is also a Tricameral Legislature consisting of the Committee of the Joint Chiefs of staff, who are the chairmen and members of federations who represent each region in which they reside. There are 85 regions, so there are 85 seats. Members do hold multiple seats in this body. There are 15 Expansionist Party member seats, and 10 Isolationist Party Member seats. and the LU Defense Organization hold the most seats with 4 as a federation. There are also 14 seats up for grabs because they have no large empires. I am still federalizing the rest of the continents, and I have 6 left. The second body is the LU Security Council which has 15 members, but 8 of them are in the World Government. This body is fully operational is an below average participation. The 3rd body is the Committee of Common Market founders, and there are 85 seats here as well. This body is not functioning at all right now.

We also have a Judicial Branch called the LU International Criminal Court. This body has a Chief Justice, but is not fully operational as well. It consists of a Chief Justice, 4 Associate Justices, an Attorney General, and a Public Defender. The LU Security Council also acts as a Judicial body as well.

These governmental bodies are not hard to use, and once people get used to using it, the politics can get very interesting and fun, while at the same time running LU efficiently. I have only 20 something LU Years left as Secretary General, and I plan to call one General Assembly, and do one more State of the World Address. Once the government is fully operational and full participation, the Secretary General should be required to speak live.

This is the State of the World of Little Upsilon. If we want Peace, Prosperity, Growth, and interactive international politics, we must participate, or just sit in your cubby hole and build your empire to yurself. May Peace be with you, and may be Peace with the World of Little Upsilon. Thank You.
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Mr_Caesari
22 Nov 2012 02:18 Link
Will you move this to the LU forums?
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King Hezekiah II
26 Nov 2012 05:25 Link
WHy are you worried about it. Mind your own business.
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SweetPea
26 Nov 2012 14:17 Link
Hezekiah, the LU Defense organization is hostile bidding one of my corporations.

Perhaps this would be a good time to send someone to convince them to retract the bid before I go off the rails and wallop one of them silly.

That is irresponsible of world government 'leaders' or ambassadors of the Tricameral Legislature to allow members of their federation to hostile bid player corps. That is a big no no. Where are the ethics? Where is the leadership?
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New Little Upsilon Order
26 Nov 2012 21:27 Link
I will make sure this information get's to the Secretary General. These 2 branches are equal Branches of government. Hezekiah is in the Executive Branch and he is also a Joint CHief of staff of the Tri Cameral legislature: The Joint Chiefs of Staff of Federations of Regions Decambra region. Do you President who are attacking your economy are in?
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SweetPea
26 Nov 2012 22:45 Link
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Do you President who are attacking your economy are in?<!-/Quote-!>



I couldn't really understand the question.


_______________________________

On a serious note though, the bid went through. I'm currently mulling over an appropriate response.
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King Hezekiah II
26 Nov 2012 23:28 Link
Herod just inboxed me. What region are you in Wendy?
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SweetPea
26 Nov 2012 23:30 Link
Continent: Lynx Minor
Region: Menlo North
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King Hezekiah II
26 Nov 2012 23:32 Link
ok. I will alert the Fed of that region, and the Economic side of the Legislature to pass a resolution on the Matter. General Chief Jackseptic would handle these things because he is the Secretary of State on the Executive side. He would generally handle diplomatic matters after the act has been committed. Also I will contact the Secretary of Justice if he has personally been involved in something unethical.
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King Hezekiah II
26 Nov 2012 23:37 Link
Oh no. The LU Defense Organization represents that region. I am contacting their chairman right now.
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SuperSoldierRCP
27 Nov 2012 02:35 Link
I spoke to some of my players about bidding on Sweetpea most have stated they haven't bidded on corps so i'm not sure what she means. IF she can provide names id be happy to speak to them. Also the bidding of a corp either it be a country or CEO wouldnt that be the position of a Common Market to address. I personally would like it to be noted to LU world Government that "Federations"(Groups of war players) SHOULDN'T be held accountable for the actions taken by an economic member.

That's like an Econ player saying a war player didnt destroy a C3 power corp cuasing the prices to drop.

As stated id be HAPPY to speak to the offending member and work out a deal. But id like to state that just because they might be known to deal/in a Fed that donest mean its the Federations issue. Id suggest contacting there Common Market when an economic issue arises
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 06:17 Link
I have messages from the bid, and the bidding player.

The thread is on the LU forum titled Fair Warning

Federations are ALWAYS responsible for the actions of their members.

I do consider LU Defense fully responsible. If they didn't direct the player to do it intentionally, they failed to explain that players should not violate the NUMBER 1 Sim Commandment.

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Thou shalt not hostilely take another player's corporations.
Thou shalt read the game documentation, though it appears out-dated.
Thou shalt not be an asshat.
Thou shalt not sell nukes to noobs.
Thou shalt not use sneak attacks.
Thou shalt not cuss at anyone, except asshats.
Thou shalt not piss off veterans.
Thou shalt not betray one's federation.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors lands.
Thou shalt not disobey the Game-God for he wields the mighty IP ban. <!-/Quote-!>



The bid went through. I was patient, and I was kind. Now it is time for a resolution. If I am disrespected or ignored and this trespass swept under a rug by the leadership of that players federation....

There Will Be Blood
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King Hezekiah II
27 Nov 2012 06:46 Link
SupersoldierRCP has assured me that he will take care of the issue. I also agree with him in reguard to the federation Legislature handling a common market Legislature issue. The next time something like this happens, we will be sure to make this happen. So, Wendy I don't know if you can hold off, but I gave the details of this issue and it's resolution in the LU forum.
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Jackseptic
27 Nov 2012 13:32 Link
Wendy if you could tell me exactly who bid on you i will talk to them but at this time i have no information on the specifics of the matter, (who did, what corp, what country etc.) No players in our fed has been directed to hostile bid or attack you in anyway, The LU Defense Org was started by me, not exactly a vet so most of my fed mates are very new players with only a couple recently reaching war lvl 3 and you know this. I do know it dont take much for you to find a reason to attack other players you have already attacked me several times for reasons you deem suitable. Dispite my attempts to befriend you or atleast be reasonable in future gaming you insist on directing attacks in my direction I personally dont appreciate the threats and will protect my fed mates to my full capability. I hope we can teach these players the rights and wrongs / etiqette of the game without destoying their countries. I will do what i can to avoid any confertations with you but as you know wendy the game master has changed the rules in the war game again so now lvl 6 cant fight lvl 3 i went to lvl 6 when you could still fight lvl 3 and stayed their so i could fight at the same lvls as you but now do to the change that now only lvl 5 can fight 3. I would ask of you before attacking my new to the game fed mates that you come on up just one war and fight me instead if you do feel you need to make some one bleed.
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 14:27 Link
I was being courteous by giving you all a chance to reverse this numbskull move. I linked up to it just 2 posts above. If you click it, you will have all the information you need.

Click the link that reads, "Fair Warning". Make note of the time and date. 36 hours was more than enough time to str8tn this out.

And no Jack, you went to level 6 after I took your country in our last war. You moved up, your problem.

The game master didn't change anything, you knew how it worked when you moved up, and you know how it works now.

As far as calling me out to go up a war level. Nah, I'll pass. I taxed that @55 already. no incentive for me to move up.

However, since you seem intent on playing the victim.

I will not be moving up. I've already stated this many times and have never changed my position. You should not have run up the levels to get away from me taking mor of your countries. On top of all that poor you victim nonsense, I gave you a chance to create an atmosphere of peace. But you proceeded in your folly, assumed you would win, and paid a price for it.

Honestly, I would get about the business of moving your fedmates up to war level 6, and I am only going to say that once.
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Crafty
27 Nov 2012 15:43 Link
It seems to me that we are getting proof that the war levels regarding federation play are not working.
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Federations are ALWAYS responsible for the actions of their members. <!-/Quote-!>

from sweetpea.
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the game master has changed the rules in the war game again so now lvl 6 cant fight lvl 3<!-/Quote-!>

from Jack.

It can't be both ways can it, or else you are going to get abuse of the war level system.

Andy, please have a think about this issue.
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 16:28 Link
You think changing anything will solve the problem?

The problem is players use the levels to escape an unfavorable war. Then turn around and ask for changes when they feel it suits their personal needs.

I hope they change it actually. Then there will be nowhere to run, and they'll scream louder.

What is there to think?
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Crafty
27 Nov 2012 17:27 Link
You know the issue wenders. Why cant fed mates defend each other with more than fed-air? Like you say, federations are always responsible for the actions of their members, and going hand in hand with belonging to that societial, responsible organisation should be mutual defense. Else it's a mockery of the whole federation reason d'etre.

I dont think its right that you can attack one of jacks fed members now because he went up a war level and you want to war with someone.

It's not about jack and you anyway, its about anyone being able to do this. You attack a fed member, you should have to face the whole fed.
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 17:56 Link
I'm sure the gms took your concerns into consideration when they planned announced and implemented the war levels.

The simple, non GM spamming solution: is to be a responsible fedmate or chairperson and...

a) do not leave members of your federation vulnerable to attacks, while you tuck yourself out of harms way by moving higher in the war levels

b) make sure your fedmates understand that hostile bidding and other actions that are frowned upon should not be done, and inform them of the potential risks.

c) train these individuals to get to the war level where you can help them. so if Super and Jack jumped up war levels, they can guide their recruits to that level as well.

This isn't a GM issue, it is simply a matter of making a choice of leaving your fedmates to lower war levels, or having them rise to the occasion.

Don't you think the GMs have enough objectives to accomplish at the moment?

It all boils down to choices.

The player chose to bid on my corp

Jack chose to move up war levels

Super chose to move up war levels

Jack and Super chose not to instruct their fedmate of the potential consequences of bidding.

Jack and Super chose not to bring their fedmates up the war ranks with them.

The player chose not to retract the bid after I was patient.
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Gaz
27 Nov 2012 17:57 Link
There should be a middle ground war level were you can dec on anyone, 3 or above.
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 18:10 Link
There is Gaz, it is on FB

The war world.

At any rate, I'm sure these suggestions will prove to be just as unpopular as war levels.

At what point are we going to just play the game and quit trying to mold it to fit your own shortsighted objectives.

You see, it sounded good at first. But really, the players asking to be able declare down, went up in war levels to avoid war.

If it is changed, what will they complain about next? So all this discussion is a circle of infinity... Nothing will ever be enough for some people.

I mean comon, obviously what pisses me off is that a player can just come and bid on your corp,cannot be declared on, and probably a free member at that.

Have I asked for bids to go away? No. I never spammed the gms when I took my hits for being hardheaded. Look at me now, I can fight on my own two feet.

Let the players play already.
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Gaz
27 Nov 2012 18:45 Link
Yes I know that but FB is dead.

Im sorry but war levels has completly ruined part of the game for me. I'll always have something to say against them.

I dont get why you seem in favour of them?
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 19:02 Link
Where did you get the idea that I was in favor of them?
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Gaz
27 Nov 2012 19:03 Link
Your post above gave me that impression.
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SweetPea
27 Nov 2012 19:18 Link
You mistake me being tired of players whining for changes every time something in the game isn't to their liking(which is how we got war levels) for my being in favor of them.

I am wholeheartedly against war levels. always have been, and my position has never changed.

What I am for is stability. I want to play the same game for at least 30 days at a time,with the same rules for x,y, and z before another change comes along.

Jack and Super are trying to manipulate the system and get the gms to change it for them so that they can actually sidestep war levels altogether.

If both these players moved up the war levels to avoid warring a level 3, how can they be justified in being able to declare on a level 3, when they feel like it? Fed or not, that doesn't make sense.

If their members don't want to be attacked, they can start moving up to the level where Super and Jack are.

It really can't be that hard. They did after all find out how to hostile bid player corps.