Federation Military Stats (White Giant)

Great post! I do have a question though. Who is the underdog? Is this unfair?

Who is the underdog? WGC has better military statistics on-paper. However, The Mob has the advantage of a surprise attack.

Is this unfair? War is never fair.

countries/pop/army activated =

I posted the paper statistics; people can decide for themselves how to interpret them. I don't believe that paper statistics are all that matter in a war. They matter, but so do other factors.

The war results so far so WGC has 110 million fewer officers and soldiers, The Mob has 8 million fewer officers and soldiers. WGC has 33 fewer countries, the Mob has the same number as before. WGC has lost 6 trillion in income and almost 2 billion in population. The Mob is about the same. These losses took place over the last 24 hours.

NOTE: these stats do not include countries owned by The Mob or WGC that are not in a Mob or WGC federation. The Mob owns a substancial number of countries (including those taken from WGC members) that are not in Mob federations.
This is simply providing publically avalible data.

Data after 1 more month.

Federation	Army (millions)	Population(millions)	Countries	Presidents	Income (billions)
WGC	337	8,255	184	33	$19,512
The Mob	199	2,458	66	9	$5,696
Zero Hour	80	1,649	23	4	$5,259
SNAPP	73	2,397	88	43	$5,057
Cuckoos Nest	31	737	13	4	$1,869
GSE	22	383	7	2	$1,015
Insane Asylum	17	195	4	2	$551
Ohio Independent	14	360	8	1	$764
Aurora Australis	13	254	4	1	$710
White Rose Commonwe	12	456	8	1	$1,191
Final Fantasy	11	364	8	1	$887
WG ZONE	10	250	6	1	$764
TGDF	10	280	5	1	$907
WG United Nations	6	450	14	1	$708
Nuclear Weapon Stoc	6	205	10	1	$282

thank you chrysostom

Ok, a final post-war update. I sorted federations by their total game score. I then moved The Mob to the top of the list. The reason I hand-moved them to the top is in recognition of their victory over WGC. Although I have no desire to encourage or support unprovoked attacks designed to obtain bragging rights; it would be fundementally disshonest to not place The Mob at the top of the list, given what took place this weekend.

federation	totalscore	Presidents	Population (millions)	Army size (millions)	Income (billions)	Production (billions)	Assets (billions)
The Mob	78253	9	2,414	197	$5,612	$11,514	$348,001
WGC	357106	33	7,946	314	$18,520	$50,880	$2,005,470
SNAPP	147142	43	2,400	74	$5,065	$17,498	$740,612
Zero Hour	63991	4	1,649	79	$5,248	$11,755	$508,497
Cuckoos Nest	28045	4	737	31	$1,857	$3,168	$313,510
Nueva Vida	28023	2	679	1	$1,719	$6,572	$513,144
White Rose Commonwe	21109	1	456	12	$1,183	$4,636	$161,243
WG ZONE	15576	1	250	10	$763	$2,004	$75,573
WG United Nations	14826	1	450	6	$704	$2,526	$199,703
TGDF	12570	1	280	10	$914	$1,744	$644,546
Final Fantasy	12447	1	305	10	$756	$2,272	$91,982
Ohio Independent	11619	1	360	14	$765	$2,314	$146,307
GSE	11149	2	383	22	$1,016	$2,443	$106,493
Aurora Australis	10979	1	254	13	$709	$1,641	$180,927
Nuclear Weapon Stoc	9622	1	205	6	$281	$567	$14,894
Lowania	5861	2	64	2	$90	$350	$10,948
Insane Asylum	5707	2	195	17	$552	$792	$22,925

Updated Federation stats

Federation	totalscore	Countries	Presidents	Population (millions)	Army Millions	Income Billions	Production (billions)	Assets (billions)
The Mob	65048	48	7	2,143	166	$5,095	$9,464	$303,166
WGC	278256	147	29	6,101	217	$13,798	$33,154	$1,694,137
SNAPP	174312	99	45	2,772	95	$5,838	$17,012	$763,297
Zero Hour	60693	21	4	1,555	78	$5,009	$10,174	$425,083
Cuckoos Nest	28107	13	4	737	31	$1,848	$3,086	$296,780
Insane Asylum	8730	6	3	310	27	$898	$1,443	$41,758
GSE	11472	7	2	385	23	$1,037	$2,109	$72,560
BEO	17272	8	1	450	20	$1,177	$2,815	$92,066
Ohio Independent	11453	8	1	360	15	$799	$1,918	$138,556
Aurora Australis	10977	4	1	254	13	$709	$1,604	$176,933
White Rose Common	20915	8	1	456	12	$1,186	$4,176	$150,007
WG ZONE	15990	6	1	254	10	$791	$1,870	$55,601
TGDF	12759	5	1	279	10	$923	$1,635	$651,709

Kind of fundamentally dishonest to sort by total score than hand pick the number 1 spot lol.

Jealous?

Yes you are!

I can see it in your typing!

A statement pointing out errors of fundamental hypocrisy are in no way Jealous.

I think you are fundamentally incorrect.
It shows in your typing.

Naaa but you are FUN-DA-MENTAL, or at least you think its fun! Muh hahahah, thats funny, I dont care who ya are!

Wendy,

For the latest update, I sorted by army size. It is in the previous update that I sorted by the game's Total Score metric. I do not agree with the total score metric as it overrates players who play for goals such as leveling and maintaining the highest possible score. It underscores players who play to make a profit out of their countries, to make a profit from raids, and who have real militaries rather than on-paper ones.

The reason, in the prior update that I placed The Mob over WGC is that they had just won a war against WGC. This time, I placed The Mob over WGC to maintain tradition. Namely, because I had placed The Mob over WGC last update, and see no reason to change the practise at this time.

However, that said, Wendy, you are more than welcome to reply with your own list of the order you believe the federations should be ranked.

Quote - "Ok, a final post-war update. I sorted federations by their total game score. I then moved The Mob to the top of the list. The reason I hand-moved them to the top is in recognition of their victory over WGC. Although I have no desire to encourage or support unprovoked attacks designed to obtain bragging rights; it would be fundementally disshonest to not place The Mob at the top of the list , given what took place this weekend." Chrysostom

As a result of personal opinion: which is fundamentally flawed btw, because you sorted by score, as observed by your statement above.

Now if you sorted by who won the last war or some other discretionary statistic or value, you could fundamentally place whomever you wanted at the top of the List.

However score is not left to the discretion of someone compiling the statistics. Score is a set value, or fixed value. To say that that you sorted by score then violated your own variable used to apply ranking, is literally a fundamental error on your part.

Had you sorted by Super Butt Kissing Value, then yes, you being author, you could then place whatever federation that you'd like to kiss the butt of most, at the top of the list.

So, in conclusion, I am correct in stating that, you are incorrect in your application of 'fundamental error', when placing a lower scoring federation over the highest scoring federation in a table that is sorted by highest score. Even given the updates before, during, and after the war, the mob still has yet to pass them in score.

Your argument would be justified had you substituted Super Butt Kissing as a value in the place or score, in any instance.

You are fundamentally corrected. You're Welcome.

I won't post any stats. I never have or will. They are fundamentally a waste of time. I detest wastefulness in any form. I never really cared about stats. I think they are Ghay, kinda like you. Ghay in a corny kinda way, not homophobic, so don't mistake the message there.

eh i dont get it.....................is it cos we are thick

No, chrysostom, Wendy is right. Descriptive statistics are descriptive, not inductive.

Wendy,

Thank you for your input. I would appreciate if you would take back calling me Ghay, or saying that I'm Super Butt Kissing. I have no problem if you accuse me of "butt kissing," but I believe to add the word "Super" before it goes too far. I have never made similar accusations of you, and those accusations are not fair about me.

Thanks :-)

/ sighs

if you can't be a super butt kisser what really is there left to live for?

Lick the boots, in a super kind of way?

using breath mints first?

sorry chryso, it was just for the humor