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chrysostom (White Giant)
12 Sep 2010 22:44 Link
Several Brutal Thugs, EC, Broken Ambition, Orbiter, have decided to attack SNAPP. Their goal, to raid resources, and more-so, to ensure that NO peacefull Econ fed will remain on WG. Many of these raiders attacked WGC just recently, and now they seek to destory SNAPP in like manner.

Adding to this attack is the coward-bully Brutus. Brutus could have at any time fought me 1 v 1 and I would have accepted the fight. Instead, he waits until several other stronger players attack to join in. Any claim he has that his is personal is a lie. I'd happily fight him 1 v 1 if he wants to do it like that and call his friends off. He is a wuss, afraid for a fair fight, and only attacks when he thinks it is safe.

Given that this war is for the future of WG, and the right of ANY federation to live in peace, SNAPP is happy to fight the war. Hopefully, it will teach a lesson to the war mongers.

We also invite other federations and players to join us in this fight. If all peacefully players unite, we can defeat these bullies.
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The Architect (Kebir Blue)
12 Sep 2010 23:18 Link
Quit bitching. Suck it up and fight.

It's players like this which have made the game so boring to play. "Wah, economy, wah, wah, my assets".
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Kitsune (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 01:32 Link
Hmmm...
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EC (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 02:15 Link
Your fed is not under attack...only you Chryso, and to say that your empire is "The Future" of WG is pretty bold.

Also...ATTENTION all members of SNAPP...you are not under attack...only your commander in chief Chrysostom. No attacks will be made on any other members of the SNAPP fed unless we are attacked first. You will have to make that choice, choose wisely.

For someone that ran their mouth enough to get kicked out of his old fed (WGC), and then kept score of the first so called "World War on WG"...seems like maybe you should now back up all the chatter and defend yourself. As fed leader of SNAPP, it would be very responsible of you to ask your fellow SNAPP members to wisely refrain from getting involved in this, as it ABSOLUTELY is in their best interest.
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chrysostom (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 02:45 Link
Will the others attacking me please confirm if that is correct?

Namely, if they agree to only attack me if no one else attacks them?

EC, my new name for you is Ex-Christian, since you claim to be one, but do not play like one. Dante says there is a special place in Hell for traitors....and you, sir, are exactly that, a traitor. This is a game, don't take this to be my saying your going to Hell; as I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that from how you play, no one would believe you to be a Christian. You are one of those selfish raiders who have no honor and no loyalty who sells out his friends and former allies for a quick buck.

You have no honor. There is a difference between someone who complains too much, and someone who is a turncoat, a traitor, and preys on taking what others have built.

So, dear Ex-Christian, I wish you the best, and hopefully your temporarily allies for today will confirm what you have said. Namely, that if no one else fights, you will only attack me.

Though, I have no doubt they too may one day face being raided by you.

It is pathetic that when you were in WGC so complained that when I was deputy minister of internal affairs that I made it too hard for you to raid inactive WGC member (because I wanted to first make sure they were inactive). So you ran for minister of internal affairs. Then, you refused as minister to follow the rules. The High Council told you that you can't just raid inactives, but need to follow the rules. Then you left.

You left because WGC wouldn't let you raid people as easily as you liked.

Now I hope you are happy, attacking and raiding at will. Is there nothing built by another's hands that you do not lust after?

Do you hold any morals or values beyond taking what you want?

In your case, the answer appears to be no.

You are truely deserving of your name, the Ex-Christian, as your own actions and play bear whitness to your disgusting self and your lack of virtue.
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Orbiter (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 04:06 Link
wow, ummm

anyways, how's this for a statement

i would absolutely love to attack any snapp member that tries to assist chryso,

any snapp member that assists chryso, will gain my respect, but may lose their empire in the process. but that aside, i would love to see snapp defend themselves,

i'm not going to bind myself by saying i wont attack snapp members, but i did not, nor, do not, have any plans to attack snapp members.
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chrysostom (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 06:43 Link
"I'm not going to bind myself by saying I wont attack SNAP members"

The dead opposit of what ExChristian said, and therefore I believe you. Namely, that you bullies just only want to fight one person at a time. Then, you'll attack someone else.

This attack also comes after I was told twice that The Mob was not going to attack SNAPP, and only took countries in Crane York to "train."

When WGC was attacked, the Econ players were told they would not be attacked. Many were. Those left to live are being used as a threat. Read the boards....do they not say for WGC to shut up or be attacked. Is that your plan for SNAPP? For everyone to shut up or be attacked? Oh, wait, you've not even agreed not to attack them...

In your choice of how to play the game, you've lost my respect. I could not care less who you "respect" and think may players would consider it an insult to have your respect. A person can tell alot about someone's friends.

The Mob have shown to have no honor in their choice of members. To accept ExChristian as a member of your federation is to have no honor.

Likewise, for Brutus to have decried the attacks against WGC, but to then participate in these attacks is a sign of his lack of honor also.

At any point he could have found me 1 v 1; but he lacks the guts. He lacks the man-hood for such a fight. Instead he needs to hide behind others, like the coward that he is.

For a long time I was worried that when I was in WGC that I was unfriendly to EC and Brutus. I was no longer worried about EC after he turncoated and attacked WGC. I now am no longer worried about Brutus.

Both have showed themselves to be without honor.

When Brutus was mad at Brian K, he wanted to fight 1 v 1. Or so he said. He never did. Now he pretends to be mad at me, but mad without honor. In the past he thought 1 v 1 an honorable way to fight. But he knows he would lose against me, so he chickens out. He is a coward and a fraud. No guts to fight like a man.

I'm not mad I was declared on. I'm mad that the people declaring act as though they somehow have the moral high ground to attack....

They do not, they are dishonorable scum. They run around afraid to go 1 v 1 or even to be honest. In the case of ExChristian, he left his fed only to plan an asset raid on them after they were only nice to him.

In the case of Brutus, he is a chicken and a wimp and a coward. He talks big, but needs to hide behind others; since he is not a real man.

I bet when fighting starts, Brutus will be the last to attack (because he is afraid to take casulties). He'll probably wait until a real man does the hard work, and then chip in some.

ExChristian -- who like Brutus is hiding some of his countries in War Protection -- doesn't even have the guts to take far away countries, or even some of his C3s out of war protection. What a wuss. He is very scared to fight real fight....in the WGC war game we were in, he quit early whining that he was taking too many loses. Now, like the coward he is, he hides countries in war protection.

I wish there was a game feature that let me attack any of his countries now....but alase, ExChristian continues to hide like a baby behind war protection, while attacking me with 4 to 1, with a bunch of suped up C3s.
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EC (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 06:57 Link
As you said Chryso...this is a game. Call me whatever you'd like to...I really dont care. Just keep watching your war index drop as you continue to run your mouth. Seems you remember the past pretty well...so this should be no surprise to you. So, either keep whining, or defend yourself.

PS...I'll be praying for you
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EC (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 07:09 Link
First of all...this has nothing to do with The Mob, as The Mob has been dismantled on WG and LU and only exists on FB. Moving on.

Second...maybe I gave you too much credit for your memory...geez, were you even in the same war games? Remember, you were the one hiding under your fedmates defenses with one lousy country,not me.

Also, I dont speak for Brutus, but are you serious? The same Brutus who was head of the WGC Rapid Response branch and Minister of Defense? Give me a break.

If this is so wrong of an action, call in some of your friends you always talk about.................crickets....thats right, you have none.

Defend yourself, Crybaby
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Orbiter (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 07:18 Link
i'm not going to say "i wont attack snapp members," because if i ever do, ever, you'll keep throwing it in my face. my statement was to make it clear that i do not currently have any intentions toward snapp, beyond the current events. if events arise that would make me change that... well, i'm not going to bind myself to something that may not be to my advantage, when you actually have zero leverage

i understand your anger, and i hope you enjoy shooting back.

and btw the way, this isn't "the mob,"
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Ravi (Little Upsilon)
13 Sep 2010 07:23 Link
The dead opposit of what ExChristian said, and therefore I believe you. Namely, that you bullies just only want to fight one person at a time. Then, you'll attack someone else.

I've been saying that for years dude.
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chrysostom (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 09:25 Link
ExChristian, you confuse praying FOR someone and preying ON someone. What you are attempting to do is not to help me but to attack me. Your actions in the sneak attack against WGC, show you more like Judas than Jesus. Perhaps your motto WWJD, is really What Would Judas Do? That is how you play.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" Matthew 5:9...I guess you read this as "blessed are those who attack those who are no threat to them, to take their countries and strip them." Clearly, if you view yourself as some sort of Christian, and I don't see how, it must be the type who think the Bible was written on opposit day.

You've hurt already a number of people who helped you out. You recieve kindness from people, and return it with a slap in the face. What you did to WGC shows you to be a Judas. You re-prove your selfishness again with your latest attack. How you can look at yourself in the mirror, I don't know. Clearly, you must be very blind to your own selfishness to continue to act this way. You have no clue how much you hurt people who had helped you greatly, nor how cruel you are to those who were your friends. Your malice is not just in heated words in the moment, but in cold, calculated hate.

God Loves; ExChristian, you hate. Your cold, calculated attacks are not just words said in the heat of the moment, they are your plan to try to tear others down to raise yourself up.

A Christian raises himself up by raising others up. Not by trying to tear people down, like you do. You should stop going by EC, to claim Christian anywhere in your name is false advertising.

ExChristian, Yes, I remember you attacking my supply unit over and over...you never could take out even that one unit.

I remember when you attacked an innocent player against the rules when you were in WGC and that player was kicking your butt and you begged the federation to help you. Jo stepped in and saved your butt. Are you planning to beg Jo to step in and plead for you after you get your butt kicked this time?

I remember ... Brutus kept saying that someone should help ExChristian...but I don't remember him actually lifting a finger to help you. Let's see if he grew a pair and will actually fight with you this time....or if he'll watch from the sidelines.

ExChristian...How does it feel to sit behind war protection? Same question goes to Brutus?

Brutus will speak for himself in the battle. If he is the first to attack, he'll show himself to be less of a wimp than I thought.

If he waits until someone else to fire, I'll know he is the chicken I thought he was. Let's see if he is hidding in wait until someone else starts it or if he is 1/4 of a man. My money is that he is chicken to fight and will wait back and see how things go.

I already see how he is attacking with far less strength and putting so much less into it than anyone else.

Brutus - You are the ultimate wimp in this game. No person I've met in Sim Country is as chicken as you. Afraid to fight like a man, so you hide behind The Mob. You are to Courage what ExChristian is to loyalty. Namely, lacking.

By The Way, it Is The Mob. All the members are not fighting as some probably actually expected a good fight with WGC. Those fighting now are the ones out to raid.

I am not angry with Broken Ambition or with Orbiter. I believe, the only insult I've given them is that they are allied with ExChristian.

I've been angry with ExChristian ever since he attack WGC, as I believe that was disshonorable.

As to Brutus, I believe he is a wimp because he could have fought one v one at any time. Instead, he now fights with others allied to him, using surprise. For a long time he was mad at Brian K and his view was a 1 on 1 fight was honorable and complained that brian K was hiding behind his fed, and he'd be happy to fight him 1 v 1.

Now, Brutus shows those just words. He shows himself a chicken. He is not man enough to fight 1 v 1. he has no honor. No courage. He is a true wus.

I am angry that Brutus turned out to be such a wimp. I had thought him a man of honor until he just now proved otherwise. He allied himself with The Mob, and with ExChristian.

Brutus clearly shows HIS SUPPORT of ExChristian's attack on WGC by allying himself with ExChristian now.

Brutus has joined with The Mob to attack in Mob Style; Brutus earlier said that was wrong.

Brutus is a one who goes against his words of earlier, and fights not with honor or principle.

Instead he allies with the turncoat ExChristian to raid from a player who lived in peace with him...this because he lacks the guts to fight 1 on 1, and instead allies with The Mob and the turncoat.

I am angry and disappointed to see how far he has fallen. I'm not angry that I am the one he attacked. I'm angry that he allied with ExChristian and The Mob and started playing like The Mob, because he either never had honor or has sold it out.

I hope Brutus does not pretend to still have honor or dignity after he has allied himself with ExChristian.
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whiteboy (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 10:41 Link
First of all, both both Ravi and Chrysostom, stop bringing up other players or the Mob or about how you have been saying whatever BS for years.

There is no Mob on WG, the Mob only exists on FB, so no one 'allied with...The Mob' and if you haven't figured it out yet, the WORST way you can deal with any current or former Mob member is by talking sh*t or questioning their morality or character.

I don't know what this issue is but if you would like me to attempt a war free resolution then contact me, I'll hear you out and see where it goes, but cut the BS about connecting two issues that are unrelated.
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EC (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 12:15 Link
WGC kicked you out Cyybaby, then declared war on you. You seem to forget that part.

Keep spinning your story Crybaby...it gets better and better. Ive been waiting on this crying to happen for over a year now...wah, wah, wah...music to my ears. Keep it up.

Reverend EC
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Ravi
13 Sep 2010 16:57 Link
Whiteboy, I am a grown up intelligent individual. I will speak when I feel it is necessary. I know you like to attack people who don't agree with you but I will not be bossed around like a child. You should take care not to offend so many people. I have my own mind and will use it. I know you can blow me up and take my country bla bla, but I will not be intimidated by a cowardly pack rat such as yourself. Your kind does seek out weak links and attacks them until you have nothing left and then go on to attack someone else.

RIP Ravi
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The Architect
13 Sep 2010 17:51 Link
No shit? War, in a game with a war engine? The shock... The horror!
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whiteboy (Fearless Blue)
13 Sep 2010 17:55 Link
Ravi - You're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about. Seeking out weak links? Really, so attacking the best members of the largest federation in the game is attacking 'weak links'? Give me a break.

You, just as so many others choose to play the victim instead of learning how to play the game. Just like telling me 'you should take care not to offend so many people' which is a threat, then following it up with playing the victim 'I know you can blow me up'. Make more sense please.

You may be grown up and intelligent but you aren't acting like it, my intent in even posting in this thread was to figure out the situation and see if it could be resolved, after reading your BS and the rest of the BS in here, I think I know what the situation is. So enjoy whatever comes to you since you chose to be an ass instead of consider that you were wrong.
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chrysostom (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 17:55 Link
Whiteboy,

Thanks for your offer, but I have no interest in peace with EC or Brutus. I have no reason to think that Orbiter or BrokenAmbition have any interest in peace with me. So peace is out of the question.

Whiteboy, with all respect, A person needs to take responsibility for his allies. This attack falls under the name of The Mob. Orbiter and EC (who are posting on this page and claiming not to be in The Mob) are in the Mob. They posted often in the first World War thread. BrokenAmbition and Brutus have not claimed not to be part of The Mob on this thread.

ExChristian - The best you can do is to say I complain too much and call me a crybaby. Meanwhile, you cannot even dispute that you are a Judas. You cannot despute that you are scum. Your missdeads are more than words, they are betrayal. You're selfishness is uncontestable, as is your greed and your hate. You don't even try to defend yourself or your actions.

YOU'VE BEEN WAITING OVER A YEAR TO ATTACK ME....YET WELL UNDER A YEAR AGO WE WERE ALLIED TOGETHER IN THE SAME FEDERATION. YOU PLAN AND WAIT TO ATTACK YOUR OWN FEDERATION ALLIES. YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE JUST THAT, A JUDAS.

ExChristian, you have stated yourself your plans to attack your allies while in a federation with them. You do not deny this. For more than 6 months you were "allied" with me, while planning to attack me.

This explains why you were completely and consistantly destructive before you left WGC. You were intent on sabatoge.

Your own words prove that you lack honor.

Likewise, anyone who allies with EC lacks honor. It is not honorable to ally with someone who acts as exChristian does. To pretend to be allies with people, and only seek their destruction.

I lump Brutus in with ExChristian. It shows his charector that he has allied himself with the person who destoryed his former federation.

It is not about federations, but people. Many people who were friends with ExChristian were attacked. They were friends with Brutus too; a shame...et to brutus ... are you also going to betray your friends by joining forces with the person who destoryed their countries....the answer of YES shows the lack of honor in both these thugs.
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Tang Washington (Little Upsilon)
13 Sep 2010 18:33 Link
Will you insult anyone who does not agree with you. I don't appreciate being called an idiot. I generally shy away from posting because you immediately go on the attack and insult people. I suppose your next course of action will be to declare on me for sharing my thoughts. It is clear that you have a serious social handicap. People should not be subject to agree with everything you have to say.

I was not aware that agreeing with everything you have to say is "Intelligent"

You are acting like a spoiled little biotch. I am not playing a victim, just calling things how I see it. Idiot would accurately describe you more than myself.
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Serpent
13 Sep 2010 23:11 Link
If you agree with everything I say it makes you not only intelligent, but extremely good-looking? Anyone agree?
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EC (Little Upsilon)
13 Sep 2010 23:11 Link
And I quote:
ExChristian - The best you can do is to say I complain too much and call me a crybaby. Meanwhile, you cannot even dispute that you are a Judas. You cannot despute that you are scum. Your missdeads are more than words, they are betrayal. You're selfishness is uncontestable, as is your greed and your hate. You don't even try to defend yourself or your actions.

I assume this means I'm off your Christmas card list, huh Chryso?

It wasn't a secret why me and Brutus left WGC...something we voiced many times. And yes, I wanted to dec you even then.

Tick tock tick tock....maybe you should spend more time getting ready to fight and less time running your mouth.

After all, they are just C3's as you said yourself. Shouldn't be a problem for you to take em all out quickly.
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Jo Salkilld (White Giant)
13 Sep 2010 23:19 Link
EC's memories of being in WGC have consistently been faulty, as have his assumptions about our federation after he left. He is in no position to speak for WGC and his statements are as wrong as his sense of loyalty to those who once saved his empire from annihilation.

For the record, WGC did not 'kick Chrysostom out'. Chrysostom left voluntarily after a disagreement with another member. There was subsequently a declaration of war which was resolved diplomatically without any shots being fired.

Also for the record, there are currently three federations on WG named 'the Mob', containing countries owned by EC, Serpent, Orbiter, Keto and Broken Ambitions. Whiteboy is not in any of those federations, or associated federations, and has declared that he is no longer in the mob. I believe him to be a man of his word and so I struggle to understand why he is still posting on their behalf.

It's a shame that the remaining members of the mob continue to bully others and exploit the game to this extent, because the GMs are being forced to make changes that may not have been necessary if they had exercised more restraint. In trying to 'promote the war game' they have actually driven at least seven veteran players away from SimCountry and many others into war protection, which naturally results in fewer wars.

The mob and its associated federations are the most powerful and aggressive players in the game. Perhaps where they come from, that is to be admired. However, the natural result of their playing style will be that they are the only veteran players left ... very big fish in a pond full of newbs who have not yet learned that, unless you pander to the egos of the all-powerful big boys, you might as well leave now and not pay your registration fee.

As always, this is ultimately a disagreement between what you can do, and what you should do ... in virtual reality as in life.

Hugs and respect

Jo
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Orbiter (White Giant)
14 Sep 2010 00:00 Link
SFO Southern Branch

so i guess because their is an SFO branch, that means they are back in town? leave it alone already. jeese.

wow, jo, give it a rest, you don't really have any leverage over this, unless you are going to open a dec? i doubt that
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Jo Salkilld (Kebir Blue)
14 Sep 2010 00:21 Link
Unlike you and your friends, Orbiter, I know when to keep quiet, and it's not when I am being threatened for making factual statements and expressing a reasonable and valid opinion.

It seems that, not only do you want to own the game, you also want to own the forum. And Laguna wonders why very few people (other than members of the mob) post any more ...
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chrysostom (White Giant)
14 Sep 2010 00:27 Link
Jo - Thank you.

ExChristian - It is well known that I'm imperfect and often say things I latter regret. That is something I need to work on. That, however, is alotogether uncomparibly different from planning to attack someone while in a federation with them.

For a year you planned to attack me, most of that time while allied with me. Did you do the same with WGC? Who else is on your hit list? Are your current allies there too?

Do you plan to attack Brutus next? Or is Orbiter your next target? Maybe it is BrokenAmbitions? You are allied with them. So far, you've attacked most of the people you've been allied to.

ExChristian, thanks for the advice. My advice to you is that you should --- if your goal is to hurt me --- take a moment and listen to what I'm going to say.

I'm not hurt by fighting you, nor even if I lose 9 countries. Do you know why? Because when I play, I play with honor and dignity. I don't attack the innocent, nor plan war against my allies. No matter what you say or win or lose, you do so with dishonor.

No matter what ill-gotten wins you have, your soul loses. You've tradded away yourself, to try to gain a few countries in a game.

You do not play this game, you are a slave to it. You lack the morals, the values, and the charector to play like a man. You do not play with honor, rather you play dirty, dishonest, and without respect.

Win or lose, those who play fair, play with honor. Those who plan to sneak attack their allies, play with dishonor. No win or loss changes that.

No matter who you do, you are below those folks in WGC who you victimized, and below everyone who you planned to attack while you were allied to.

Your word is meaninless; your alliance untrustable, and you are without honor.

You traided yourself, your word, your honor, and your dignity for some loot.

One day, maybe it will be today, your armies will fail you and you will be looted. You then will have traded your honor for nothing.

Do you not see how stupid that is? Yet that is your fate.

More-than-likely, it will happen one day when RL causes you to not log in for a while. Your countries will be gone. No one will watch them for you. Your hard work taken. You will log back on with no friends, no honor, and lacking your great wealth. It will be a sad day for you, and is unfortunate that you don't see where you are heading.

You trade away something -- your honor -- for nothing, for things that show up on a screen. Open a word document and just type the number of coins you have....that is all you are winning. Just pictures on a screen. Yet for that, you trade way your honor.

You are an idiot.