Peace Agreement to end WW2 (White Giant)

Agreement is as follows:

1. Peace for a minimum of 100 game months
2. For both sides the forums are to remain civil with no complaining about the war from either side
3. The attackers (EC, Orbiter, Brutus, and BrokenAmbition) agree to move any and all countries that were recently built near SNAPP countries. This includes the countries past known as Charity and Courage

If I have correctly stated the terms, I ask EC, Orbiter, Brutus, and BrokenAmbiton to post here confirming this.

"This includes the countries past known as Charity and Courage "

umm, we didn't say that, those countries in fact do not fit the bill of "recently built," and where not mentioned. its is clear they are being stripped, and you previously were demanding that they be dereged or returned. by throwing them into the "recently built" countries, you are twisting our words, and leveraging demands that we've already rejected

what you've posted here, is close, but not what we offered. your adding things

so, no

why tell some one to stop being rude, and then get in the last jab? thats a cheap shot, AND low when you take last forum insult, then tell ec to stop being rude, then go and except a peace that would bind him from responding...

deals off

wow, the more i think on it, that was a cheap shot, i'm not going to let you just do that. its crap like that that got you into this

Guys...this sounds like a done deal, let's not get weighed down by small things. Strip/move Charity and Courage, I'm sure that was the plan anyway.

I believe this is in fact a very reasonable peace treaty and will ultimately lead to a better WG than the alternative of more and bigger wars.

Listen to Whiteboy, he is talking sense and I agree.

Don't get bogged down by petty insults and small things.

I thought Charity and Courage would be stripped and dumped soon enough anyway.

The whole thread about the war was full of nothing but crap with nothing constructive being said.

This is the only constructive thing that has ever been written and whiteboy has been the only person to say anything worthwhile.

That's my two cents worth!

Orbiter, I did not say they needed to be returned in the agreement. You can strip and dereg. I assumed that your offer included you leaving the area. Any of your countries remaining in the area would be different from how the offer read to me.

My assumption is that if you reject this now that you were never negotiating in good faith and just trying to get our guard down. This reads exactly as I understood your offer.

This is they always do, while you negotiate they are just buying time and reloading for round 2.

I didn't think it possible for them to have dropped down a level in honor; but sending a proposal, having it agreed to, and then rejecting what they sent would be dropping down a level in my book.

good enough chryso, you know, when this started, i was really just helping my allies. we are a new fed, and needed to smooth out how we worked together. try some new tactics, try some old tactics in a new way...

i was, and am, glad to see an alternative fed in wg, finally. and as i said early on, i had no intentions of attacking snapp. just you

but as far as you go... i had enjoyed when you stood up to your previous fed leaders, a bit long winded, but having no personal experience with you, i could not attach to the "crybaby," title ec and brutus had assigned you.

how ever, through this event, i've noticed that you enjoy provoking, and then insulting some one for attacking provoked. it would seem that this is a long time course of action from you.

bragging about taking c3s, bragging about abusing the corporation debt bomb, which was fixed today, btw... you freaking hinie-hole

taking the last jab, and in the same breath telling ec to stop being rude

saving messages for over a year, in the event you can use them to embarse the friend that sent them at the time... wow, and you want to chalenge our honor?

so i mean, you could said something to the effect, of, "you know what Josias, your right, that last jab was unneccessary, and ofcourse you can take time to strip those counries..." if you were interested in "peace" but you aren't you are only interested in finding the higher ground to insult your adversaries... and we aren't going for it

boooring

Josias, of course you can take time to strip those countries; I have no objection if you even take a full real-life week. Provided you agree to not move in any additiona military into those countries, and simply strip and move them.

I did not save them with the intent to badmouth him. I've taken several jabs that were unneccessary.

The decision remains back in your court as to whether or not to agree to the peace that you folks proposed.

Just for the record, and so everyone can see it, today...Chryso has led his fed to destruction. I hope your fedmates thank you personally as their countries are crushed just as yours will be. No mercy will be shown. You made your bed idiot, now your gonna get killed in it.

Thank you for making this decision easy, I tried to just let this end, and apologies to all SNAPP members who are gonna end up being collateral damage because of your big fat mouth. I hope you all let idiot know that this is HIS fault that your countries are taken from you, stripped in front of you and deregistered.

So, idiot, no peace...not until you and your fed are broken.

Say what you want about my honor...I guess Ive replaced it with horror...and you and your fed are gonna get to experience it. We coulda taken your entire empire in the first round of this war idiot. But after chatting with a good friend, we stopped. Not because of anything you did. Say what you want...you know that we could have done it. And those that know the war engine and know who we are also know that we coulda taken you back to your main on the first night.

Now...shut your trap and get ready to have your *ss handed to you.

EC man, toughguy?

That suit doesn't fit.

No EC.

If the members of SNAPP who are uninvolved in this war get attacked by you it is YOUR responsibility, not anyone else's. Don't use Chrysostom's actions as an excuse for raiding players who aren't involved. No one is forcing you to attack them.

During WW2, the Nazis dealt with the Dutch resistance by a very simple tactic. Every time the resistance took action against the Nazis, the Nazis selected some civilians and executed them.

I'm sure the GMs, and the player community will appreciate your way of dealing with the leaders of SNAPP in a similar manner.

Thanks Jo.

Dear EC, you have now broken your word. You said no one in SNAPP who did NOT help me would be attacked. Now, players who did not help me and did not say anything, you say you will attack.

What is the moral of the story? Don't trust what EC says. He attacks those who help him (like me and WGC), whose who do nothing to hurt him (like people in SNAPP who didn't lift a finger), and so what do you lose if you stand up to him. Nothing.

Then he blames me for that fact that HE attacked me and SNAPP. Who's fault was it, EC, that you attacked WGC?

I ask players to continue to boycott EC's countries:
x2
Epic Chaos
x5
Rapture
Legion
Reaper
Albatross
Cherokee
x4
x3
The Parted Waters
Raven
x1

THEY DECLARED WAR ON US IDIOT.

Therefore...they will get a war...and it is all because you could not shut your mouth.

Even Ahmose wanted peace, but alas, your mouth ruined it...just like it ruins everything. Your fedmates have active decs on us....decs which they initiated. Decs which will be dealt with...along with you. I hope you like the thought of starting your empire over from your secured main.

Cute, so far Jo, all countries involved from SNAPP were their initial declares, not ours. Also, Last i saw, You aren't a GM, so, perhaps you should speak for yourself, not the GM's, as you cant and shouldnt speak for them, Your way of dealing with WG matters, ended in a failure of your fed, as you don't communicate with anyone, from them, so dont try to correct SNAPPS Wars, since we only initially targeted chryso not the fed itself, but his lip ran itself into the position we're in currently, so as your personal concerns, i'll happily take them in messages, or MSN, but as for you speaking for the " player community" and the GM's...leave your OWN comments applied to YOURSELF. dont apply them to everyone on SC..

As for Chryso, good advertisement for your econ warfare.

Sincerely,
Jess

EC, not my war or my arguement.......

Out of all your empire on WG you have nothing on offer to this unless its 30m pop or under, yet you act the great almighty...if the mob isnt now ur fed, it was, and they have been screaming about the tactics you are now using.ie,c3's or worthless countries.

Make ur mind up dude..lay it all on the line or quit ur posting on war and get on with it,without wp

I think if the harsh words BrokenAmbitions has said about Jo do not prove that these folks will use ANYTHING as an excuse to blame someone else, I don't know what would.

I mean come on. I can see how someone would have a problem with me running my mouth, but Jo?

EC, I was born in an afternoon, but not yesterday afternoon.

chrysostom, I've a lot of experience dealing with this group, and its' allies.

If they are asking for peace, they are short somewhere and need time to compensate, don't fall for it.

If you get an advantage, exploit it fully until they give in. If not, you give them room to rebuild and replenish.

EC, is just a puppet now. In order to raise his reputation, your fed is now the stage to complete his transformation from player to asshat. Complaining to the high heavens about things then turining around and doing them is awkward, or at least should be for EC.

You should know they will say and do anything their actions speak for themselves. The community is watching and have already made its conclusion. Now you just have to wait for it to act.

Thanks Wendy...now is the perfect time for the community to act :-)

Hi All,

Let me say something please.

You keep saying that you attacked Chrys and not SNAPP, I assume you are saying this to show the war is not your fault.

But what's the point in being in a Federation if they will not defend you?

In SNAPP we will help defend our members, win or loose, isn't that what a Federation is supposed to do? We do not just throw our members to the wolves because we do not want war. We were not prepared at all and none of us except for Chrys had any experience in war. I'm supposed to be Minister of Defense, but I don't have a clue what I am doing

EC, was it you who attacked six of our countries with NUKES? When my guys asked if they could use nukes, I said no. I may not know what I am doing, but anyone can push the nuke button, and we have plenty of them.

Regards,
Ahmose

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LOL, I'd rather lose with you guys than win with those guys. If you don't have any experience in sim-war and still counter-decced on the moblets in support of your fedmate, that shows heart, and all you're lacking now is knowledge, and experience, and maybe skill, and probably a lot of interceptors and helis, and I suppose some DMBs and AAMBs, assuming you're already loaded with MIBs, and quite frankly a whole lot of other stuff.

No matter, it's just a game, play it how you think it should be played and enjoy it whatever happens.

actually it was me that nuked

i had taken the 2 countries that were remotely in range for ground, i had to do a double airlift to get to them

after that, i figured each of the players that dec'd me, and were out of range, could take a nuke each. in your case ahmose, you got 2. not because you were special, but because it was easy

The Resolution was a proposal by chrysostom with the following motivation:
This is his secure main, so it will not impact the war. I ask for this vote as a Security Council vote to ask EC to remove War Protection from his countries and fight fair, or to stop fighting. A vote yes, is a vote to make a statement that hiding his empire in war protection while attacking is not appropriate. Please vote yes, and insist on a fair fight.

The Security Counil accepted the proposal.
7 council members voted for the proposal and 0 council members voted against it.
You are a member of the Security Council and voted for the proposal.


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It is now time for the general membership to vote on this, i ask for them to vote yes.