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Why do players hoard money? What are they saving up for? I'm playing a game that simulates running a country not one that simulate having a savings account.

I'd edit that typo if I knew how.

@Weyland I save and spend money having extra cash allows you to get through financial disasters, stabilize new countries quickly and in some cases reach a higher game level. However I'm all for buying military gear.

Wait. Health, education and transport are all close to 200 yet you're ranked no. 6 for finance. Doesn't that prove Kaizer Zen wrong?

No, it proves that Union King is good at econ.

I looked again, he has literally no military.

Why would he have a military in his permanent war protection "secured' main? WG is a bit different than FB, and the vast majority of players use their secured mode nation as just a pure econ base. There is no reason not to, since you get just the one free, war protected country.

That country cannot ever be attacked unless Union King manually removes the secured mode. If you look around, you'll notice Union King's empire is easily a top 5 military empire on WG at the moment.

Not sure what any of that has to do with health index effecting the economy but it sure seems pointless fighting a war you can neither win nor lose.

There are some other examples I've found on FB of countries that have health index way above 130 without it ruining their economy yet still spend loads on their military so I think Kaizer Zen's advice is inaccurate. You can definitely have good health care for your citizens without it ruining your economy.

The point I agree with that Kaizer Zen made is just that a health index over 130 is less good for your economy (profits). Above 130, and it generally stops doing anything for your welfare index (which is the part that helps your economy most). He didn't say that no matter what, someone with 131 health index will find it impossible to make profits. He never said having higher health index will ruin your economy. It just stops providing economic benefit around 130 based off what I've seen (and what I'm guessing Kaizer Zen's seen) + what the documentation seems to say about some game mechanics.

If you decide to go above 130, you are choosing to do so for reasons besides economic ones in my opinion, which is fine. I may go above 130 myself soon to pursue a higher game level and gold coin awards. Generally though, my goal is to be as profitable as possible, so show me the error of my ways if you can so I can make more money.

The players you reference from FB make tons of money because they're good players, not because of whatever their health index is.

@Weyland My post was explaining what having a high health index can do to a country over time. I'm not using my own country Azov as an example because it's still in development stage and is experimental.

On KB however I have 5 countries, 4 fully developed and 1 that's transitioning to enterprise corporation ownership. Out of those 5 countries, I am in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th place financially. With one country still in development, which will most likely replace my current 1st place country.

I'm not trying to go for top rank in what ever it may be, to me rank and game level doesn't matter. Game levels for me are only to help with building corporations that require a higher game level, but to each their own.

I'm simply stating that the maximum welfare bonus from healthcare is 130, any higher will not effect your welfare index or production efficiency, and also can cause population aging which will become burdensome eventually.

Kaizer Zen is a more like Frank Spencer from "Some Mother's do ave them!"

I see players who are on game level 11 who still make $100T a month.

You say you won't level up.

I say won't means can't.

I'm still building population on this account but I've played this game before and I'll level up and I'll look after my ageing population rather than let them die and I'll still have a strong economy despite the extra welfare costs.

I'm not impressed by players who focus only on the war game or the econ game. I'm a president, my game is harder than that. Neither do I have any respect for players outside of FB, or those who hide behind large federations they didn't help to build.

I don't mean any offence, I just think the game you play is too easy and it bores me.

@Weyland to each their own. I'm simply giving my take on efficiency. No offence taken.

@Weyland, People have different views and ideas on how to play the game.

Slick edit.