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Matthew I
18 Jul 2021 05:57 Link
My new Dominion, 'Dominion of Africa' was recently sneak attacked. Recently, as in within the last day.

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There has been some tension between me and David lately. Mostly, regarding the states I have around him. Dominion of Westbrook, Dominion of Birmingham and Dominion of Africa. The latter, being the most recent. He gave me an ultimatum to remove them, probably, since he was still sore about us asking the same when he expanded around several members following his striking from the WGA roster.

To show that my new countries were not intended to be used against David, I left them without active defenses, minimal amounts of defensive equipment sitting and two of them without fortifications. Because Lee wasn't WL3 and apparently couldn't get there, there wasn't a pressing need. Despite my exit from WGA, I still remain pledged, as do others, to protect WGA members and ANYONE WL3 from unjust conflict. As I pledged to do in WGA, under our Operation: Over-watch in an attempt to allow newer players to feel safe moving to WL3.


Since my exit from WGA, David has been moving more and more weapons around his Empire, spending mass amounts of money and even bragging about it on his self-congratulatory forum thread. I then see Lee place TWO states directly bordering mine. This coming off of him outright telling me that the UDL were involved in his negotiations with the WGA, in our meeting room, despite his outright threats against members of our Federation.

To be clear I did not sneak attack David. I've told him from Day 1 that if I wanted to, I'd fight him. I didn't attack him when he was WL3 but smaller, I didn't attack him when he was flinging threats while negotiating and I didn't attack when the strategic situation would've been a K.O massively in our favor. I'm not going to attack after months of a massive and public buildup while I'm less active.

I've also yet to follow through on a promise, or threat I've made on this forum for the almost year I've been active. I make my threats on the forums. Some make them in private conversations:

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I have no evidence that David carried out that sneak attack, but it's VERY coincidental considering the above, his closeness to Lee and my exit from a Federation that would've given me more protection in this very event. It is very sad, to see that despite the UDL being so young it's already caused tension on a scale WG hasn't seen in years.

Batavia remains vigilant against all threats. If they want to come at me, come at me with a formal declaration. Warmongers will not survive long here. If he's trying to bait me into an attack, or suppose that I did attack his states, he's even more wrong than usual. Not sure what is being played at, but I'm not going to bite to play into your narrative.

Batavian colonists have died today. We shall find out why.
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Belcherx8
18 Jul 2021 06:11 Link
Sorry to hear someone carried out a cowardly attack against your country and territories. Sneak attack's are cowardly no doubts about that. I know our federations are at odds right now, but I can be sure that UDL members are not responsible for this. As a new player who loves to engage other's Im sure we can put our differences aside and find out who is doing these attacks together and hold them accountable. Someone sees that the two federations are at odds and trying to start a world war, cause that what it would be. We can not fall into their trap.
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UNION STATES KING
18 Jul 2021 06:51 Link
THE UNION STATES OF AMERICA! Condemns whoever launched this attack against the The Kingdom of Batavia.
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David
18 Jul 2021 08:00 Link
The Only Reason I'm responding to this is because you dragged me in @matt

How do you feel @mathew When you Perfectly Sit to Construct Lies?? it's just so Awkward, For the Record *I didn't attack you* Why would I? Did you place any other state near me? if you did that'll be seen as an act of War against me. You talk about trouble, while you put states close to me, I did Nothing, You defy my Countries name (Dominion of Africa) while I kept calm.. You lay false accusations on me I take a chill, you Perfectly Construct Lies then I Simply Laugh it off.. What Really have I done to you? That you Seize not to rest on my Case 😂, You claim you're overwatching but from All indications we seriously need to Place a watch on your Actions...

For the Records I'm Not like you matt.. we're different. I don't Construct Lies to justify my actions. AU nor the UDL didn't Attack you..

On a second thought.. Our Prayers are with your people during this difficult moment.. while hoping this attack was not internally Stage managed to justify false Claims like you always Do..
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Matthew I
18 Jul 2021 10:07 Link
I am not the one having difficultly justifying claims. I said I did not have evidence to say who did it. The state was unarmed. But the notion that I staged this is hilarious. So you could have as well then, yeah?

How about you justify THAT claim? How do you figure that happened? Any proof whatsoever? You speak of justifying. Justify your claim. I also challenge you to bring up some of my lies that I apparently have no justification for. You are always very sparing on the details of anything you claim and I am more than sure I can provide warrants for mine.

You want to talk about claims?

-You told me states around you would be unacceptable on a forum post
-Over a Private chat you outright said a state near you would mean war
-Lee said the UDL was involved in his negotiations
-Lee said you were one of his biggest allies
-You have built up considerably militarily and publicly announced you did so
-You announced a new state within striking distance of mine in the same post

All this and YOUR upset that my Dominion close to you, has the word Africa in it? Even if I did intend to mock you, so what? You told me to remove them and I did not take kindly to it. Of course I mocked you.

Above are the claims I have made against you. I have voiced my opinions of your motives based upon your actions. There is a difference.

Why would you not directly declare if you did do it? Perhaps because your the obvious choice as you threatened these states not even a month ago and your hoping I lash out since I have so blatantly told you I would confront any aggression giving you a reason to remove them without looking aggressive. It is not at all a wild theory to assume you attacked me. Who else? Lee?

You trying to construe me as something I am not has been going on since you got kicked from the WGA. I am challenging you to actually back up your claims of me being a liar, what I am lying about and to back up your claim that I somehow attacked myself or what exactly I did.

I eagerly await your response that will most assuredly answer the concerns that get brought up and not some rambling statement that just throws out accusations without really replying.
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The Mentalist
18 Jul 2021 10:08 Link
Gentlemen: Sorry for give my opinion. First I have to apologize with David when he denounced this kind of attacks in one of his countries, I don't believe that denounce the first time, sorry for that.

But reading this post I just realized that this is a real threat.

My opinion is this: What is happened is called in Forensic Sciences a pattern. Both of you suffered from sneak attacks and it's possible that other players have sneak attacks.

I suggest first: Think in who or whom have benefits to put players fighting each other.

Second: Who have the possibility to launch this kind of attacks.

Third: The attacker or attackers knows that both of you are not in the best moment of your relation as players.

Finally, If you want to catch a criminal, you have to learn to think as criminal. Any Criminologist can tell you.

If both of you want to discover the person or persons whom did this, put to he/she/them not only a trap, put a lot of traps and you will discover the attacker.

Wish the best to both of you.

Best regards.
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Belcher
18 Jul 2021 10:23 Link
The Mentalist that was well written, for myself I also believe that this is someone who is trying or will benefit by starting a war between two very powerful federation. I know both federation are at odds, but let's take caution on this and not fight a war that some small actor is setting up.
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The Mentalist
18 Jul 2021 10:30 Link
Just noticed. In the sneak attack to David country and now to Matthew country, the attacker or attackers choose this countries because have low population compared with the rest of the empire as the case of David, and choosed a relatively new country in the case of Matthew.

The aggressor or aggressors are testing your countries defenses, capabilities and responses to the attacks. This is another pattern.

Best regards to both of you.
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The Mentalist
18 Jul 2021 10:36 Link
Thank you Belcher. My concern is this pattern of attacks will be frequent, violent and will happen in more countries. But let we see what happens.

Best regards, Belcher.
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Belcher
18 Jul 2021 10:51 Link
Thanks you sir and we are keeping close eyes on this new matter that the White Giant world is facing. Best regards to you and your country as well.
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David
18 Jul 2021 10:52 Link
Can you listen to yourself Matthew, Lee said, I said, you said.. these are your warrants.. lol SMH, why do you normally bring up Lee when we're talking?? Like why.. (I think you're in love with Lee). I won't bother wasting my energy in Replying you, as I'm saving it for something "important"

Also I didn't cowardly place any sneak attack on your State, neither is the UDL Responsible. it's cowardice man..

Little Advice, you can build up Defenses in those states (Maybe little amount of Defense Heli and Interceptors) to prevent any future attacks if you have the resources.. that's what I did..

Happy Nelson Mandela International Day!
I Rest my Case.
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The Mentalist
18 Jul 2021 11:41 Link
Is not Lee or at least I don't think so.He didn't reach WL3. Think deeper, investigate and see carefully the maps of WG.

Sorry again for give my opinion. But it helps, read «Murder in the Orient Express» wrote by Agatha Christie. Now, gentleman, you are the Hercules Poirot.

Best regards.
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The Mentalist
18 Jul 2021 11:41 Link
Is not Lee or at least I don't think so.He didn't reach WL3. Think deeper, investigate and see carefully the maps of WG.

Sorry again for give my opinion. But it helps, read «Murder in the Orient Express» wrote by Agatha Christie. Now, gentleman, you are the Hercules Poirot.

Best regards.
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Matthew I
18 Jul 2021 11:53 Link
Actually, I posted a screenshot. Lying about that?

I also have a direct message from you and on the forum saying my states must be removed with no further explanation. You've showed blatant aggression and simply deny it on face. You even TELL ME you view these states as hostile and say I MUST remove them.

"I urge you to Remove or relocate those States as I see it as a treat to my Nation Sovereignty... tho Many members of the WGA are my friends I surely know you're not, and I consider you Hostile at the moment and won't allow you place State around me faraway from Home.."

I also challenged you to directly justify YOUR claim.

"For the Records I'm Not like you matt.. we're different. I don't Construct Lies to justify my actions. AU nor the UDL didn't Attack you.."

What lies did I construct? Where is your evidence? What even do you mean?

Lee is relevant because he was a known hostile player, and you ACTIVELY aided him, ACTIVELY helped him expand and ACTIVELY avoided acknowledgement of this because of the WGA's stance on him. You ignore his threats and condemned us for making moves that defended against him. You also deem this as "Unimportant" while you type paragraphs on a thread you made for yourself. But you don't have time to directly clarify your accusations on the international stage in the midst of a crisis? And as the Chairman of the UDL you are concerned with global stability? Throwing out accusations and insults endlessly, while directly a ignoring screenshot (proving a threat you made behind closed doors) and are simply lying about your past actions. Saying its all hearsay when a lot of it occurred openly, on the forum is just silly.

You have made threats against these countries, grown closer with the largest enemy I have on the game, your Fed then tries to get involved with WGA negotiations with this person despite his threats to destroy us. And you blatantly deny things even when your own words stare you directly in the face.

I'm not moving, you don't intimidate me and your silence on direct questions is deafening.

I'll ask you some more questions, why the massive military buildup? Negative income in some countries, due to it. Seems like you were waiting for something to happen.

Your moves are transparent and your response to this entire fiasco solidifies it. You didn't settle your case. You refused to directly confront anything I said. Lazily denying things like threats are stupid when I've got screenshots and the people that you sent them to. Your arrogance and over confidence is ridiculous.

I value transparency and communication. You apparently, do not.

For the sake of your Federation and those that look to you as a leader, I suggest you change your present course.
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David
18 Jul 2021 12:33 Link
Noted.. Mathew I'd change.. Thanks for the Compliments tho.. "Arrogance and Over-Confidence". also it feels so good to have people look upto you..

Also a Reminder I don't need to post any evidence as all matters and Conversation b/t us is on the forums, while Private messages Sent to your allies or third party was just simply to call you to order and Restrain your hostile behaviour, Since you left your Former federation.(Well Structured and Principled)

Also an an Executive order is being released which Stops all UDL member States from Responding to your Private messages or Claims on the Forums.. As all matters Pertaining to your State will be dealt through official channels if need be...

Best Regard His Royal Majesty Mathew.
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Mike C
18 Jul 2021 15:38 Link
This is outrageous! The wonton destruction of virtual lives must end.

Tomorrow at midnight Crescent Dawn will be hosting a campfire where we will all join hands and sing Kumbaya. All peace loving Presidents and Royalty are invited to attend. BYOB
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Justin Justin
18 Jul 2021 19:57 Link
Yes this is very very good
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E O
18 Jul 2021 20:58 Link
This is yet another despicable act I'm compelled to comment on. Obviously when we discover who did this, I'll be at war.

And the main suspect of the attacks is congratulating himself on having 'people look upto' him while trying to squash the conversation where it's revealed he wanted to attack my fedmate.

How narcissistic.

Resultingly, applications for military service within our empire have flooded in, as our populace seeks to counter the mass military mobilizations in neighboring, foreign lands. David's African Union territories now sit at war ranks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and their leadership is clearly posturing with hostility on this thread. Extreme zealotry is sweeping through our citizenry, and demonstrations of faith are being equated to being patriotic. The clergy at temples and pagodas on Lacerta in particular have recorded an overwhelming number of donations and sacrifices made to the Old Gods as the devout seek divine intervention and guidance.

This is a time of trials for our empire. Time will tell if our faith and our steel will be enough to achieve victory.
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Khalid Hassan
18 Jul 2021 21:13 Link
This terror must stop!! Who knows who’s next we must all together to find the culprit
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Belcher
18 Jul 2021 22:10 Link
The United Republic is willing to work together to find the culprit.
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Lioncoeur
19 Jul 2021 01:28 Link
The CCA Sovereign States Imperium also Condemns whoever launched this attack against the The Kingdom of Batavia, the Holy Emeperor send his condolences.
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Justin Justin
19 Jul 2021 01:51 Link
Such a terrible thing to happen. smh but the question is why is it happening? Why we as a world as leaders must use violent to solve our issues and differences. Governments who can not just simply sit and talk about what we have in common, but instead use guns, bombs, missiles, tank and planes, just such a bad situation smh buy who am I kidding cause myself too see the difference and difficult task on how hard it will be to solve a issue by just a handshake. People will die and wars will be fought. The profit that comes from it is glorious. The blood and dead will keep your economy out the red. Sorry for the lost of your people, but more unfortunately will come to all.
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The Mentalist
19 Jul 2021 08:46 Link
I'm really sorry for these attacks and I also condemn them.

@ EO you are right, the perpetrator or perpetrators read this post and have a satisfaction that borders on the erotic. Their minds are this way, the satisfaction of these people is based on getting their way without consequences. Their brains are very different from most of us and this has to do with the amygdala and the prefrontal cortex.

Like the murderer who visits the scene of the crime when it is being processed or the arsonist who watches with delight the building that burned. It is for this reason that forensic teams take photos of onlookers at the scene, because the offender could emerge there. Photos are even taken at the victim's funeral, because many criminals love to see the results of their evil.

I was wrong, those responsibles will stop the attacks for a while, hoping that David and Matthew start to forget and when this happens, they will attack the countries of these two players, or the countries of players that have not yet been attacked.

The perpetrators are not alone, they are backed by the masterminds who possibly have a lot of financial and military resources in the game.
I think one way to corner the attackers is for both David and Matthew not to go to war. This way the attackers will not get the sickly gratification they so badly need and will become aggressive and that will be a sign.

In Spanish we have a saying that says: "Para bailar tango se necesitan dos" which means: "To dance tango you need two", and it applies in this case. As long as Matthew and David remain cool-headed in this unfortunate situation, the attackers will slowly lose their fuel until they attack again.

I wish you all the best.
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David
19 Jul 2021 13:04 Link
@EO I find it Extremely offensive when you say I tried to attack your Fed mate.. When I've No idea of Such event.. And also Considering the Fact that my nation First experienced this kind of attack... Also considering the Recent attack to my Nation, my Nation has deemed It fit to strengthen its defenses against the Enemy and Securing our borders.. Hope you have No problem with that?.. On my Side I'm on guard and the AU military have been on Red alert ever since the disastrous incident occurred on our Nation.. We hope for peace on WG, and equally Praying that this incident dosen't result to a very long term change in leadership policy of our Nation.

Also i want to further state that, Any further accusation against the AU people or any defamation of this honourable Nation will be met with overwhelming force. (please Note Very "important") both now and in the future.. We don't accuse let's not be accused, we don't defame let's not be defamed.

I'd Repeat the AU knows nothing about the Attack conducted against the Batavian people.. As our heart and Prayers are with them during this trying period.

David (GCAU)
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E O
19 Jul 2021 21:30 Link
David you're being utterly obnoxious. You, the main suspect, are threatening us for calling you a suspect and saying you'll attack us "with overwhelming force" for doing so. If you're trying to remove suspicion from yourself, you're doing the exact opposite. Threatening force to make people stop talking sounds.... like you're insecure about something and you're trying to dictate what we do to hide that.

GET OVER YOURSELF.

You're obviously preparing to fight us. You've placed 2 countries next to us now, which were BOTH in war protection as you beefed them up. Neither has a reason to exist if you are not planning on attacking us. We look forward to you REMOVING those countries if you truly have peaceful intentions, but since you don't, those countries will remain in menacing positions to us. You've built up to have war ranks 1, 2, 3, and 4 and those countries are hemorrhaging money. Why David?

It'd take a moron to think you're not planning on attacking us.

You want to make war threats against us? Send the war decs. Stop pretending that's not your plan. Gather all your alt account allies and let's go then.