Ian Cameron For WG SC

lol, I declare that we have officially hi-jacked this thread. Congratz.

"LEAAAVEEEE THIISSSSS PLAACCCEEEEEE, AND NEEEVVVVEEERRR REEETUUUURRRNNN!!!!" *He says in a ghostly voice* GTFO!!!!

RE: "wickedlady talks of her quarrels with me however she should realize that i do not even have the largest military in the union and i also rely upon take comfort in the strong defenses of my comrades i wish her luck on her foolish incursions under the guise of "stopping a bully"... seems to be a common theme with you actually wickedlady....


This message is to TheWhy and anyone who wants to know why I speak openly against cyber bullying and really all forms of bullying. If you keep in tune with your daily news, you hear story after story of kids committing suicide due to bullying in schools and cyber bullying. It is becoming a huge problem in our society. One can argue...."oh it is kids being kids" or "it is the internet....just words on a screen." Well to some people it goes beyond that. You never know what is going on in the life of the person on the other side of the screen.

We are seeing and hearing more cases on the news of bullying leading to suicides. This is a serious problem that leads to many negative effects for victims of bullying. The statistics on bullying and suicide are alarming:

- Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it.

- Bully victims are between 2 to 9 times more likely to consider suicide than non-victims, according to studies by Yale University

- A study in Britain found that at least half of suicides among young people are related to bullying

- 10 to 14 year old girls may be at even higher risk for suicide, according to the study above

- According to statistics reported by ABC News, nearly 30 percent of students are either bullies or victims of bullying, and 160,000 kids stay home from school every day because of fear of bullying

Bully-related suicide can be connected to any type of bullying, including physical bullying, emotional bullying, cyberbullying, and sexting, or circulating suggestive or nude photos or messages about a person.

What has happened to our society? Why are people behaving this way? Well how can we expect our young people to not engage in such behavior when the adults are engaging in such behavior?

Right here in this very game, Simcountry, I have witnessed individuals who seem to get a high or a jolly in playing such ugly, nasty mind games. The name calling is atrocious. The use of personal information to hurt people is just astounding. And these are people in their late 20s and 30s behaving this way - supposedly adults. They are parents of young children. Why just day before yesterday, when engaging in such a discussion with a player, I was told I was "too soft." No, I am not too soft, I am normal. I don't aspire to gaining my self-importance in real life or online in tearing other individuals down. Decent persons who see that their words hurt or are upsetting people will back off, but not some of the individuals I have come across in this game. They honestly have no conscience or caring for their fellow man, which is sociopathic in nature. Yet, I am the one who is called "bat-crap crazy?" I think not.

Right now in the news there is a case in Florida, where two young girls (pre-teen) are being charged in the death of another girl from their incessant bullying online and through texting. The case is bringing national attention and is even looking at whether the girls' parents should be held responsible as well. What makes children and even adults today behave in such mean and nasty ways? The news even showed a text by one of the girls charged saying she didn't care that the girl died as a result of what she said, saying she didn't give a good G..Damn.

This is what is wrong with society, people don't care for people.

Anyways, TheWhy, I don't have a big tolerance for nitpicking and nonsense and you can blame Wendy for this. I've had to endure her nonsense, stalking, her name changes in chat to attack and bringing others in to join her in 'gang banging' me for YEARS. I tend to overreact, because for me enough is enough. As far as I'm concerned, I'm just gonna kill ya on WG, cuz you are an adversary in the game...no other reason than that and... you crossed me and my federation with your threats and nonsense! :P

Anyways, hopes this answers some of your questions.

pitch n roll

ok wickedlady.... im not for bullying? dont know how you construed my comment as such.... you seem to think of yourself as a rally point for players against warmongers while at the same time instigating stuff with me and by extension the union and trying to recruit large war players to ally with you i was simply pointing out that contradiction.... it had nothing to do with cyberbullying...... and i was not bullying ian cameron ethier... that is simply fact

also cyberbullying is usually done between people who know eachother in real life..... if someone started "bullying" me here in this forum where i know noone in real life it would not affect me as much as if it was on something like Facebook.... so you have to be aware of the difference... you know what im saying

Be a Buddy Not a Bully

Both parties have a point... Which means no agreement will be reached by either side.

Kill? Why rely on murdering someone? That will solve nothing whatsoever.

You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn't get much higher

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire

"The time to hesitate is through"
No time to wallow in the mire
Try now we can only lose
And our love become a funeral pyre

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire, YEAH

one way or another I'm gonna getcha getcha getchagetchagetchagetcha

TheWhy,

All I'm gonna say is this.......I just merely answered your question above. What I find interesting is you obviously condone or support people being ugly to people online, because people don't know each other. Fascinating.

Furthermore, you are not entirely accurate. Bullying can take any form in any venue. Just because this is an online game, which so calls gives people anonymity, doesn't justify cruelty and people crossing the line. I specifically know of a case where a young man was bullied in an online chatroom in a gaming site and killed himself as a result. As I said, you never know what is going on in the life of the person on the receiving end.

Anyways, if I feel a need to address you further, it will be you on the receiving end of a war declaration. And this will be game related and not for anything else. Because I am a lady, I bid you well and a lovely day.

Yours truly,
The Wicked Lady

I agree with Phillip for once.
Both have a point.

Ard.
He is NOT Cyber-bulling to an extent that Jan is describing. He has always been in that shape, and everyone must adapt to it. I found no problem with it when he spoke in such a way when I joined him, so I see no other reason why everyone should. If he reacts that way, he probably has a reason, he entered this topic nicely up until Jan entered and reintroduced the topic.

Jan.
Of course, bulling does occur, and it is very real, and has occurred in Florida a couple days ago. You are a great example of what a near perfect world could be. You should never change from that point of view.

Now, just to point it out, personally, I think Nico is more of a "bully" than Ardglass is, he is just throwing garbage out when the coast is clear and gets away scott-fee, which on no field, is acceptable on my part.

wow i thought we had come to a tentative and respectable agreement wickedlady but ethier you are a fool with a habit for blowing things out of proportion or you are cleverly demonizing me .... ethier way im just going to say this "yes i condone cyberbullying and all sorts of bullying i think we should hide behind computers and make fun of eachother" see how silly that is wickedlady.... that is what you are telling me i am doing how absurd

fact 1 i was not bullying ian

fact 2 everything that you stated about cyberbullying causing suicide and whatnot

fact 3 i made a reasonable distinction between the facts you were citing about suicide caused by bullying on facebook (reallife) and bullying on something like simcountry in which a troll can go and invade your country because they are "mean" (not real life) lumping the two together is fallacy

fact 4 you often decry people as warmongers while at the same time rampaging around with your big friends causing trouble how ironic

not sure how this topic got to bullying because noone was bullying anyone it was purely a discussion in-game.... oh wait i do know how..... you prance around in your sanctimonious cloak (anti bullying) as an excuse to invade people for no good reason.... even though noone is bullying anyone.... unless you want to equate your trolling with bullying

Jan I advise against a War declaration, you know where I stand fortunately.

I tell ya what, TheWhy. You do whatever the hell you want, okay? You continue in your azzhattery fashion. I won't say another word on the topic of bullying and sorts or what I think is uncalled for. You calling a player stupid is uncalled for. I'm done with befriending you and your federation. I've gone to bat for your federation in the past when Chiwoo had decs against you. Quite frankly, I find you very disrespectful of other players. Anyhow,enough said.

If I don't like what I see and I hear, you will be answerable in game. I won't be talking to you at all. Not even one post. I'll have war decs fire your way with no negotiations of peace.

Thank you for the heads up, we have been preparing for a while now, specifically after someone from the outside informed us of your intentions over a week ago, your plans in provoking Ardglass to strike first... Among other things (we thank you if you're out there! whoever you are...).

We have a policy, we never strike first, why? Because we seek a diplomatic solution first. After that, we leave it be, or the aggressor always attacks first, we are declared on first when diplomacy fails, never us.

If you plan on making Ardglass fall, then you'll have to take us down Jan. Shame, to see that of the few large and active Federations, this one will have to fall in the hands of those doing you the favour because of petty issues. The Union stands behind every single member in it.
If you topple us, it will cost you a great deal of money. We have plenty of defences to be put to good use.

I tire of your threats Jan and don't get me wrong, I liked you very much, but this is my Federation and this is where I stand. Do what you please. Everything comes to its end in due time anyway.

Do not expect us to leave thewhy to his fate because we fear your threats. Fire em Away.

(And to add FURTHER insult to injury, you won't be doing the fighting...)

Well first off, Wolfie, no insult was directed your way whatsoever. My issue was with TheWhy and not you. But thank you for your kind words. As to your last insult.......we'll see. :-) Oh, and whether or not I fight is inconsequential. The outcome is all I'm interested in. ha ha ha ha Also, as far as cost, I can afford it. :P

We'll see

Well well well, i've been gone for a few days and all hell has broken loose, the kiddies or inmates have all chucked their toys out of the pram or spat their dummies out and want to fight each other, and TWL this is Simcountry not Monopoly you know lol, so I don't think people are really bothered how much money you can afford to spend

In ref to people saying we'll see, how can you see if you have no vision....?

Just so you know, I ALWAYS won at Monopoly and my playing piece was ALWAYS the shoe.

I believe that this "shoe" was actually a worn-out boot, it looks like some sort of boot for sure.

We'll see
This is a game... just as monopoly is, as much as everyone is concerned, money is valuable in both... Yet worthless all in all... Off the moon now. Here here. *whistles*

Pfft Spacey, still a shoe!!! :P

@ "We'll see"

Continue to run your mouth all you want, Wolfker. I'll be interested to "see" how well you defend your fed when Retribution comes knocking at The Union's door. You will come out of your hidey hole being at a low war level, right???? I can hardly wait......licks my lips with hungry anticipation of the kill. *smiles evilly