Automation

there is an option to "Automatic placing orders for products that your country needs"
this option needs to have a choice of how much you want to buy for your country's needs, such as any multiples of its monthly use.

is there an option to "Automatic selling products that your country has over supply"

which over supply = your specified inventory level

where specified inventory level = monthly use x number of months you feel comfortable to stock that product


this same feature to be available for the corporations too. there are now strategies for "selling production" and "buying supplies" for corps. the sell strategy is confusing, because the percentage is base off the market price, which should it be base off your cost of producing that product? the cost of production should be the base to start from, and not the market price because the market price will vary base on how fast other buyers want their money for their products? to be base on production cost so that as your factory becomes more efficient then it should cost you less to produce that products, which you should be able to be competitive on the local, common, and world markets.


your input much appreciated, these features will be helpful.

Under trade.
did you try order Strategy and Quality?

Lol, XON knows 'bout dat, Andy :P

He means sell with strategy.

yes, i'm talking about sell strategy. can this be similar to buying/ordering strategy?

my country just keeps buying, so i need to sell automatically any quantity over my specified inventory level.

some products that my country has 0 monthly use are still being bought too. i'm too wondering my people don't eat wheat (monthly use = 0), but they drink over 80,000 bottles of wine per month?

They eat bread, not pure wheat grains. Bread and 'other food products' use wheat.

I would say :"I dun wanna go to your house for Thanksgiving, lol.", but I'm not in the mood.

most products in sc should have consumption by the population, the corps, or both.

need automatic sales strategy for country so don't have to manually do all the times.

president specified minimum inventory = monthly use x specified # of months to stock this product

sales order = products in stock - minimum inventory


products in stock would also be known final inventory, to less the confusion.

final inventory = final inventory last month + all incoming products

all incoming products = corps production + country purchases

in order to make the local market and common market working, or worth the efforts

local market recommended price = 200% x production cost of the product

common market recommended price = 200% x local market recommended price

world market recommended price = 200% x common market recommended price

perhaps these be the base recommended prices for these three markets.
as existing, my experience is that local and common markets work only well for products you cannot get from the world market, such as strategic weapons/materials

for players to max the price of their products, say each booster can reduce the corp's workforce by say 10% and increase production efficiency/effectivity by 10%. an upgrade booster increases the life of the corp by say 10 game years. with no upgrade, the corp life be say 100 game years.

also that country total asset cannot go below zero, when it reach zero then it is bankrupted and turn over to GM but any outstanding debts (i.e. loans) get transfer to the player's account, leader country, or other empires or enterprises.

the current option, if each c3 can be bought at 300 GC then this 300 GC need to be in the country's account. if player use all these 300 GC plus whatever is existing in the c3 before the purchase, and the country total assets reach 0 then the country is bankrupted.

the better option would be that country needs to be say $1 USD each, and there is no free country in any empired. as i have been advocating, get rid of GC and just direct conversion between $1 US to $1T SC. if you spend your $1T SC plus whatever the country has before you bought it, and your total assets reach zero, then you wanna play you need to buy another country at $1 USD.

premium player needs to be able to sell and buy countries, empires, enterprises, and corporations between other players and the GM. no restrictions on how many you can buy, build, expand, spend money on as long as you have the cash SC $ to do so.

those who wants to be credit cards warriors, GM will welcome your US $ contributions to help make more developments to the game.

those who don't want to be credit card warriors, you can still get your SC $ by playing the game well.

makes everyone happy
makes more people be more active in sc

This game is keeping my attention,which is rare for me anyways.

And i've thought about being a credit card "warrior" it's just im,
much too cheap for your idea im kinda upset i used my card 3 times already.

if you're saying my proposal would make the game too cheap?

if so, it will kill the excuses that there are players that are students, kids, etc that cannot afford to play the game

it's more security for the game if there are 100,000 players each paying $1 than to have 1000 players each paying $100?

many people will not take notice that they have spent $1 even though they have done it 100 times. but many will be reluctant to spend $100 even just once.

another automation would be to allow the people within an empire to move to any of the empire's countries freely, without the transfer as existing now.

the empire's people can go to any of the empire's country, wherever there are jobs/positions for their professions.

if a country is cancel, then the quota can be applied to the country being cancel, but the limit should be the original population of being a C3 when the president took over the country. a president needs to be allowed to take what he has created for the country.

when looking at my "available materials and contract services" for a corp, not once is any of my "last price paid" lower than the "market price"

i often just use "buy immediately" so i'm paying premium prices for the products i want/need on the world maket price. but if these products are plenty on the world market, then i should get the world market prices?

would local and common market exist to automatically solve these prices? where i can set the local prices and common market prices?

when you're building a new corp, it should tell you how much you need to build that corp. these would include all the materials and workers needed to operate for say 12 game months.

as existing, it only list the market price for the product the corp will be producing, the world market situation for the materials you need for the corp, and the number of workers from each profession that you need.

every earth business/corp has a minimum startup cost.

in sc, it seems that each time i build a new corp the workers of my corps are changing even though i have the same salary index. i can understand that the workers would rebalance themselves if the salary indexes for the corps are different. when workers are going thru transitions, then it seems that corp production is not maximizing?

how do you automatically avoid this rebalancing of workers in your corps?

my priority is to be able to produce all the products that my country needs (for populations and corps). the products that i produce within my own country must be made to be cheaper than they are on the world market

how does a country becomes self sufficient in sc?
or how does an empire become self sufficient?

how do you change the automatic ordering for your country so that it does not buy the products that you have 0 monthly use and only buy the quantity that monthly use? i change the country's automatic buying feature, but it automatic change back to keep buying even for products that my country has 0 monthly use or buying thousands of units of a product even though my country only have 200 monthly use.

when you set "contract full production to your country and accept"
you should not have any unsold quantity of that product?

unless your country do not have the cash to purchase this product?

this is an automatic option in sc now, but why do i still have "some left unsold" or "high unsold" of the product?

It can only license 100% max production.

It's likely you have more than 100% in the production section

@starfoth, so full production = 100% and anything over will not be taken?

my corps do produce over 100% so that extra % will not be accepted by my country then?

i'm still back to trying to figure out how local market, common market, and world market work.

i thought it would be less issues, if a corp could sell its products to the local, common, or world market....but not to a specific corp in any of these markets.

example would be,
XON 1 Chemicals 1 sell chemicals to XON Local Market, Common Market, World Market

XON 1 Chemicals 1 buy oil from XON Local Market, Common Market, World Market


you can have your own preference of which of the three markets you want to go shopping at first. if you produce too much quantity of a product for the local market, then the extra goes to common market; if still too much quantity of this product, then the extra can overspill to the world market.

you can also have the option to choose to buy and sell all your products in just one, two, or all three markets too. this would work well for the concept of boycott. you can boycott any player by not offering your products in a market that player is not part of (i.e. common market).

within each of these markets, then the buy orders and sell orders will be executed according to your specifications (i.e. Q100, Q200, etc), the price you're willing to pay, and so on. these buy and sell strategies will be how you setup for your corps, which are existing. these markets do not have to take ownership of your products, but rather just a holding place for the products. when a buyer does a transaction for a product, then a transaction log (debit and credit) can be created for the transaction....such as debit chemicals from XON 1 Chemicals inventory to credit XON 1 Oil 1 inventory, and debit cash from XON 1 Oil 1's account to credit XON 1 Chemicals 1's account.


as i have stated before, using local/common market contracts seem to always cause hiccups for me because i am contracting directly between the buying corp and the selling corp.

i realize that gm needs to be able to know where to debit from and where to credit to in all the transactions, but creating these three markets as entities so that debit and credit transactions can be attach to them would eliminate the hiccup issues (supply chain issues). because within these markets, there will be many buyers and many sellers, so if one seller does not produce enough quantity for the product you want, you can buy from the next seller in that market.

my priority for shopping (buying/selling) would be local market, common market, and world market. every player will have their choice of which of these three markets he/she wants to shop first.

if your country is producing high quality products, you can have a choice for your population and corps to consume your own high quality products. if you want to buy low quality products, but sell all your high quality products your corps produce then you can do that too.

all of these can be setup and automatically run by the game engine. if a players change his/her strategy, then just change at setup. this automation still requires that presidents/ceos check on their buy and sell orders, because of the prices and quality available in these markets. for those that want to micro-manage, he/she can go into each market and select from the selling offers or buying offers.

frustrated, but hope that this would help make these markets in sc work better.

if the quality has to stay in this game, then the pricing structures have to be invented or modify to work for all three markets.

thank you for reading these

pricing a product base on quality (subjective judgement) is what i think really screw up why the three markets do not function as they should.

the price of a product needs to be base on the cost to produce that product, not some imaginary "quality" concept which is irrelevant to most products.

if electricity generated from coal are more expensive or has a higher cost to produce, then it's price should reflect this cost. if electricity generated from nuclear power plant is cheaper or has a lower cost to produce, then its price should be base on this cost.

the same applies for all products.
i cannot imagine the difference between a Q3000 strategic bomb at $41.70B SC and a Q100 strategic bomb at $13.90B SC. it would be more realistic that a Q300 strategic bomb be a hydrogen bomb and a Q100 strategic bomb be a uranium bomb.

i would like to know how many players out there can manufacture a strategic bomb at or under $13.90B SC. if you can, please share how you do it because the corp has a running cost of more than $1B per month and the corp can only produce one every 12 months if every thing works perfectly (i.e. all materials and workers available, with at least 100% productivity). i cannot produce one bomb a year, because of supply chain problems. if i don't check every day, i'm out of plutonium, or the plutonium corp is out of something and creates a domino throughout all the chain. would be awesome to automatic these

i can't wait to build try building space cargo shuttles at a base price of $29B and you can only produce one per 12 months too

if my monthly running cost for the strategic bomb corp is $2B, i would guess the monthly running cost would be about $4B for the space cargo shuttle corp?

no one buys this product either except those participating in the space industry

these are my real challenges of playing simcountry, trying to do the impossible, creating products that very few consume

it's difficult to understand that i have construction corps that produce about 7,000,000 per month, yet my country has a shortage of about 3,000,000 per month.

is there an automatic procedure to correct this?

if i send the full production of my corps to my country, then i have to manually sell from the country's inventory (products in stock) every day. this is a lot of works for just even one country, how do presidents with many countries which also has many corps are able to do these buy and sell acts manually?

we need an automatic inventory control system in sc

the current ordering and buying strategies are too confusing and too much manual labor to correct

a very simple system is that if my country owns my corps (state or national) then i have the option to sell all the productions of these corps to my country. the inventory control system must be smart enough that if the products from my corps are more than what my population can consume, then the extra amount will be automatically set to be sold on the markets (local, common, world).

my country must have the ability to order for both my population and my corps on one page, which would be shown on the "products in stock" where one column is "country monthly use" and another column is "corporations monthly use". this is so that i can buy and sell products for my whole country without jumping from pages to pages, going to individual corps to see what products are in shortage, and so on. if i have 30 corps that have a monthly use of 10 factory maint units per corp, then i can just order how many months of fmu i need for my all corps.

as existing, one of my corps still has 3000 fmu yet another corp cannot have production because it is shortage on fmu, is just too much manual labor for me to check through every corp.

i cannot imagine the earth hours to manage countries and enterprises with thousands of corps, if these procedures are not in place automatically.

we need another option for the sale strategy

now we have
1. best price
2. time based
3. follow quality

we need the option that you can markup your product, such as if the cost is $1.00 and you put the markup as 200%, then the price = 200%/100% x $1.00 = $2.00

this should not require too much modifications to the game database since the profit/loss statement of a corp already has the cost to produce the product, and the only thing you need to do is put in your markup percentage.

this fourth option would be simply name "markup"