Tom Willard, please explain (Golden Rainbow)

Can you say what you are doing with govt. worker salaries please. Nuses, teachers, docs etc and other employees (and now I notice officers) are all getting nice pay rises.
If you are absolutely not influencing these rises then I am at a loss as to why they are occouring, I would have to have another study of it, but for the moment it definitely points at a WC3 change.

Please try to tell us in advance if you do things like this, just explaining what youre doing and why would be nice, ignore the few fools who will scream and shout and bellyache as to how they want it done.

And while we're at it......
Supply of Q160 in a state corp always gave end Q296....not no more.Is this intentional?

Same with publics..not Q370 now

interesting find Blue. I noticed a lot of ceos. I looked on Gr to find that mine makes barely nothing. I've mimicked a few strats to test them out and to see why i am not doing as well. I found that in the 2nd place ceo is making hundreds of billions every month.

mine is making 90b and running at a loss almost every month. I reset my supply quality to 160 and started over. I have a bunch of what I thought were good corps. Maybe it has something to do with my trade strategies.

But in the good ceo I noticed that good corps aren't making much money like oil and services especially in c3s. Intentional, probably.

The difference between the good ceo is second, and i am in third. he has a little over 800 corps, and I have just under 700. but there are big profit differences. we both use 160 q supplies but our trade strats do differ a bunch. I'm going to check more corp type by corp type and check settings by settings and see if I continue to make a big difference.

Every c3 corp is %100 hiring but welfare divergence of just about %10. That isn't fair, shouldn't c3s be able to maintain a decent welfare. Those corps are all mostly making losses in the 'good' ceo.

Noting else seems so terrible to get such bad results. I would say %90 of my corps are in c3s and there is the 'real' problem. Nope definitely not going to cut it. I'm still looking... bbl

Salaries seem to be different let me try that.

GreenC3 Hospitals 001

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 46,401.40M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 51,778.45M SC$
Profit Last Year 4,298.99M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 1,084.78M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 0.00M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -1,408.62M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -1,408.62M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 111,760.90M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,259,198.29M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 12,710.75M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 0 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 26.10 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 28.40 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 296.7 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 91.8 Corporate Welfare Index


GreenC3 Hospitals 006

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 47,372.70M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 49,221.84M SC$
Profit Last Year 2,540.71M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 402.37M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 0.00M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -2,714.02M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -2,714.02M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 115,055.89M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,366,100.74M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 15,925.26M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 0 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 90.60 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 288.9 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 90.6 Corporate Welfare Index


Green Hospitals 001

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 43,204.04M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 84,312.64M SC$
Profit Last Year 24,468.00M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 22,814.04M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 0.00M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -3,520.76M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -3,520.76M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 120,138.66M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 2,530,869.78M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 15,077.77M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 0 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 111.00 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 290.9 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 111.0 Corporate Welfare Index

Welfare and taxes make all the difference apparently.

Therefore I suggest low welfare in and a %30 tax rate in c3s is an injustice to ceos.

Green Oil 001

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 18,495.71M SC$
Cash Available Now 39,535.50M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 74,155.99M SC$
Profit Last Year 7,338.96M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 6,998.62M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 1,818.59M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -2,457.76M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -2,457.76M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 98,194.21M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,623,943.04M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 18,788.61M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 2,776,173 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 111.00 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 291.4 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 111.0 Corporate Welfare Index

GreenC3 Oil 001

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 16,828.86M SC$
Cash Available Now 45,144.67M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 62,077.03M SC$
Profit Last Year 3,846.38M SC$
Net Profit Last Year -587.58M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 1,729.23M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -2,010.50M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -2,010.50M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 102,969.69M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,184,149.54M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 21,780.57M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 2,613,529 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 104.50 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 289.9 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 224 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 104.5 Corporate Welfare Index

Changed 2 settings.

Now look...


Nominal Value of 'The High Profitess Corp' for Simcountry Players
Base Value 180 GC
Assets 430,490.83 B 1,435 GC
Military Assets 0.00 B 0 GC

Expected Profit this Game Year 10,297.03 B
Expected Profit Real Month 77,227.74 B
Expected Profit Real Month in GC 227 GC
Profit Capacity Value 4,540 GC
+
Total Nominal Value in Gold Coins 6,155 GC
Total Nominal Value in US Dollars $ 615.50 USD

Strange it is that easy to really phunk up your CEO. It would be nice to have the changes stop for a while or altogether so W3c can actually recommend some settings to newer players or CEOs in general. Apparently Salaries will be a big factor, the difference between 350 salaries and 100 is the production %93 to 90 for 100. In other it makes absolutely zero sense to run anything but 100 salaries in a country with less than 100 welfare.

its confusing cos i ran some corps at 30 sals..Welfare 94 but Q produced 296.

sals at 300 giving Q produced at 250 ish. all fully upgraded.

But your right with all the changes, Game needs to settle down and let the adjustments catch up.

An explanation of whats been changed and why would help

Demand for High Tech Services has skydived to a bottom. Id guess its cause W3C adjusted demand for that goods in corp need, but fast big changes are nasty indeed. Crashing a market without a word aint nice.

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Supply of Q160 in a state corp always gave end Q296....not no more.Is this intentional? <!-/Quote-!>

Supply Q of 160 never gave final Q of 296 in state corps.

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Supply Q of 160 never gave final Q of 296 in state corps.<!-/Quote-!>

you're right I sometimes get higher but generally 296 any higher is offset by adding 100 Q fmus and electric. easy

And Scarlet, Blueserpent has some of the best spreadsheets and research into testing in this game. You were away for a while, maybe you should ask around before being presumptuous.

I do that all myself.

Other players can corroborate:

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WildEyes Guide to Leaving
(PROTIP: Final quality is (ASQ2)*CQ*1.02. CQ + Corp Quality. HOWEVER ASQ2 is 1+[0.01(ASQ-100)/2]... or an easier way to explain it is, if ASQ is 190, change it to 1.90 and divide right of the decimal by 2, so it is 1.45...

so 190 ASQ with a 200 qual. corp gives 1.45*200*1.02 = 295.8 Final Quality.)
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search the forums for 'wildeyes leaving guide' (forum has a search facility) to see more on how this works though wildeyes herself admits it may be slightly out of date. ~That guy who liked to play while Scarlet was away<!-/Quote-!>

God, whatever. I'll just keep making money while you complain that the game is broke.

Edit: However, Crafty is correct. They did adjust the salaries of some workers. Corporation consumption was adjusted slightly. Base Price was adjusted slightly (mostly upward) as well.

LMAO, Scarlet Not a single one of your countries makes any money.

I'll give you the same proposal I did last time you started trying to have a pissing contest with me. One week time on any world my main will make more than yours. I have 14 countries and haven't done any economic maintenance for almost 3 weeks on LU. My main probably still makes more than yours easy. If not we can make it in no time flat. Please hush you're not any Rockafeller in this game and never have been.

I don't complain the game is broke. I think it is working just fine. Programming doesn't mutate. If the game is changing, with or without notice it is valid to make note.

Just remember, even though you're supposed to be a guy, and I a girl, when you have a pissing contest with me, remember who is doing the sitting and who is standing. To refresh your memory, you haven't been doing the standing for a very, very, long time.

Empty talk.

Hopefully this means your navy fighter plane corp in Millerl1n won't run out supplies for a week.

I see you took that challenge sitting down Scarlet...


Tsk, tsk, some things will never change. Wuteva

And lol Danny. I don't enjoy micro managing. I can find plenty of more enjoyable and productive things to do. to do. As long as my account grows and all is on the up and up, I won't break my head over this game lol.

Scarlet doesn't want to have a penis contest with me, he loses those too. Don't count on those supplies...

More empty talk.

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I'll give you the same proposal I did last time you started trying to have a pissing contest with me. One week time on any world my main will make more than yours. I have 14 countries and haven't done any economic maintenance for almost 3 weeks on LU. My main probably still makes more than yours easy. If not we can make it in no time flat.<!-/Quote-!>

I'm still waiting for you to accept. You won't because you lose.

Yes all your words are empty talk. Your mouth is still writing checks that that your azz can't cash. Wuteva

Back to the real point though, I'll ignore the cheerleader unless he has something to prove...

c3s are a real problem to ceos.


Tax and Welfare are making it impossible to make a profit. Tripling the salary factor from 100 to 300 gives basically less than a %3 advantage from %90 to %93 production. Basically salaries are useless and everything else is beyond our control.

Rostera Chemicals

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 36,831.45M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 23,663.90M SC$
Profit Last Year -5,306.27M SC$
Net Profit Last Year -5,306.27M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 4,135.60M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 1,913.27M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 1,913.27M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 55,907.86M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 120,993.55M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 6,999.88M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 1,290,465 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 93.90 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 100 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 127.6 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 100 Productivity Index


Rostera Computers

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 3,763.72M SC$
Cash Available Now 41,131.31M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 43,365.97M SC$
Profit Last Year -7,936.17M SC$
Net Profit Last Year -8,037.26M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 3,762.98M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -557.01M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -557.01M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 94,546.66M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,090,460.22M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 11,433.02M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 1,407,799 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 93.90 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 287.1 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 93.9 Corporate Welfare Index



Rostera Offensive Air To Air

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 1,044.29M SC$
Cash Available Now 20,176.19M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 13,630.76M SC$
Profit Last Year -17,743.10M SC$
Net Profit Last Year -17,743.10M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 1,035.15M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -1,557.96M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -1,557.96M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 63,618.60M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 169,786.93M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 6,841.29M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 51 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 93.60 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 280.1 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 93.6 Corporate Welfare Index

Rostera Machine Parts

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 2,546.26M SC$
Cash Available Now 28,419.60M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 38,020.10M SC$
Profit Last Year -7,233.70M SC$
Net Profit Last Year -7,233.70M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 0.00M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month -3,870.81M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month -3,870.81M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 84,365.50M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 242,431.44M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 14,459.73M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 3,043,628 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 93.70 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 278.3 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index


Rostera Medical Equipment

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 4,612.47M SC$
Cash Available Now 63,549.60M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 43,369.20M SC$
Profit Last Year 2,660.10M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 1,825.62M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 5,218.05M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 714.05M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 484.84M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 107,342.14M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 858,812.41M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 10,717.94M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 3,111,753 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 95.70 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 278.1 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 95.7 Corporate Welfare Index

All in C3s. All turning profits.

TSS Medical Equipment 067

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 54,255.38M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 62,812.55M SC$
Profit Last Year 12,840.87M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 10,164.59M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 4,849.88M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 591.80M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 414.26M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 122,357.76M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,640,269.86M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 27,210.04M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 3,059,961 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.20 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 294.2 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.2 Corporate Welfare Index

TSS Cars 003

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 58,754.22M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 73,657.53M SC$
Profit Last Year 14,994.83M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 11,913.88M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 5,791.35M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 760.14M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 532.10M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 124,644.45M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,899,176.87M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 29,618.92M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 94,152 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.20 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 294.3 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.2 Corporate Welfare Index

TSS Software 014

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 58,052.51M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 59,784.81M SC$
Profit Last Year 11,362.46M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 9,099.76M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 4,523.54M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 462.06M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 323.44M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 120,936.33M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,554,231.72M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 24,418.79M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 3,291,790 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.10 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 295.9 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.1 Corporate Welfare Index

TSS Electric Power 020

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 46,474.89M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 83,365.78M SC$
Profit Last Year 19,735.52M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 15,491.69M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 6,297.53M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 1,269.02M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 888.31M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 124,121.64M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,283,795.77M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 23,760.17M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 23,538 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.20 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 224 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 292.3 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.2 Corporate Welfare Index

TSS Household Products 039

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 0.00M SC$
Cash Available Now 58,769.86M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 59,220.29M SC$
Profit Last Year 9,040.11M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 6,328.08M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 4,855.94M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 651.10M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 455.77M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 122,448.02M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,567,966.48M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 27,374.25M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 588,445 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.20 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 294.3 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 225 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.2 Corporate Welfare Index

TSS Construction 009

General Data
Products Sold Current Month 5,020.38M SC$
Cash Available Now 61,870.66M SC$ Corporate cash

Products Sold Last Year 57,276.39M SC$
Profit Last Year 7,900.62M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 5,530.43M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 4,919.51M SC$ Turnover last month
Profit Last Month 777.95M SC$ Profit
Net Profit Last Month 544.57M SC$ Net Profit
Assets 121,201.63M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 1,412,333.77M SC$ Corporate market value
Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ Total of loans
Value of Supplies 26,178.13M SC$ Value of materials
Production Last Month 3,679,721 Production for the month
Production Level Last Month 94.40 % Production Index
Employment Level Last Month 100.00 % Hiring level
Production Process Quality 225 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 298.0 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 224 Productivity Index
Welfare Index 94.4 Corporate Welfare Index

WoWsErs C3 Private CEO corps making some profit?!

Well isn't that a surprise...

duh asshat I'm talking about corps with good settings turning an unexplainable loss.

Of course... you're known for stating the obvious while thinking that makes you a genius. Not.

The name of the thread is Tom Willard please explain, not Scarlet. You can take your duh cap off and wait in the corner until we get a response from Tom.

Thanks for your cooperation.