Bug being exploited: Inherited debt for conquer countries is not working properly

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{55. Financial consequences of winning a war [ top ]
If the country that has lost the war had net cash, the net cash remains in the country and the winner receives the country with all the cash it has.

{If the country that has lost the war had net debt (net cash < 0), the winning country does not inherit that debt. Instead, the debt is transferred to the main country in the empire of the country that has lost the war.

The reason for this choice is that some empires had countries make large profits at the expense of another country in the empire pushing it into very high debt and then had that country be conquered by a temporarily created second account to get rid of the debt. Now, debt remains in the empire and presidents must take care of all their countries.}}


World: White Giant
Defender Main country: La Republica del helios
Attacker country: Villa Club

So, I attacked and conquered 5 countries of this guy that had an obscene debt and negative net cash.
We are talking about countries with 12T in loans taken (-12T) and an available cash of -1T to -4T.
Almost literally no kind of assets, and secrecy parameters off so it wasn't a perception. Each of those countries (and 100 more he has) are like this.

After I conquered the countries, I found out that not only his main country (La Republica del helios) {{did not}} inherited any of those 12 to 16T debt for each country, {if not that I ended with a negative Net Cash}.

I lost 10T in Game Cash when I cancel those 5 awful countries, cause all the negative net cash they had were transfered my main.


{55. Financial consequences of winning a war [ top ]
If the country that has lost the war had net cash, the net cash remains in the country and the winner receives the country with all the cash it has.

If the country that has lost the war had net debt (net cash < 0), the winning country does not inherit that debt. Instead, the debt is transferred to the main country in the empire of the country that has lost the war.

{The reason for this choice is that some empires had countries make large profits at the expense of another country in the empire pushing it into very high debt and then had that country be conquered by a temporarily created second account to get rid of the debt. Now, debt remains in the empire and presidents must take care of all their countries.}}


It's clear that this bug is being exploited.

Can you prioritized this bug and fix it ASAP?


Waiting your comments.
Regards


PS: I sent you an email with details on Feb 23, but did not receive reply. If you are unable to check logs after a country is cancel, then email me or post here and I will conquer a country again to reproduce. I prefer to not, as I have already lost more than 15T with the two bugs being exploited.

there is no bug being exploited here, only your incompetence at trying to understand simcountry, why don't you continue living upto your name and continue being a ponce.

Jozi/Robocop?

There are some exceptions here. it is not entirely true and we will recheck the documentation.

Net cash, if positive, is inherited by the winner.
net cash means all cash and all loans.

If the total is negative, it is inherited too, but up to -2T.

the empire losing the country, inherits all the negative net cash.

As to expoliting the inheritance rules, attacking a country with high debt, could easily bankrupt the empire as they inherit the debt.

If the attacker also inherits some of the debt, he will probably think twice before trying to use this to bankrupt others.

So... Let me see if I understand.
- You define a game rule
- The game rule is not working
- Its ok for GM.

Doesnt make sense.

If the game rule states " the empire losing the country, inherits all the negative net cash.", and I am showing that its indeed NOT working... why it is not considered it a bug?

Plus, " As to expoliting the inheritance rules, attacking a country with high debt, could easily bankrupt the empire as they inherit the debt.".... Your game documentation states that, that its actually the point of the rule. Of couse I tried it, its within the rules and its actually a good war strategy.

Again, from game docs rules.
" {The reason for this choice is that some empires had countries make large profits at the expense of another country in the empire pushing it into very high debt and then had that country be conquered by a temporarily created second account to get rid of the debt. Now, debt remains in the empire and presidents must take care of all their countries.}}".


Could you kindly explain why it is not a bug that he did not inherited around 30-40T from negative net cash he had?
I checked his main empire before conquering 5 of his 100 countries he is purposely using to " make large profits at the expense of another country in the empire pushing it into very high debt" (for instance, in terms of ceo corps, unlimited workers) and his main country assets remained untouched?

Much appreciate
Regards

In addition to my last post, in case my point is not clear.
I dont mind as an attacker if I inherit -2T from the recently conquered country as long as the lost player main country inherited whar he should based on game docs. It should have been -10T for him and -2T for me. Balance is still positive for the war effort.
It is not if I inherit -2T and the lost side inherited 0 (zero) instead of -10T.

Thanks!

Ps: My apologizes if this post and the other bug-thread I created doesnt sound good, its not my intention at all. English is not my native language.
Regards

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This is the way it is implemented.
the winner can inherit up to 2T in debt if the country you conquered has negative net cash.

We will check the documentation and make sure it is up to date next week with the next game update.

Hi Andy,

Thanks for replying again.
I might have expressed incorrectly, but let me try it again.

I'm more than okay with the way it is implemented now, and how it is explained in the documentation (however, check it just in case). But it has a bug .
This implementation has to points:
A) The winner can inherit up to 2T in debt if the country you conquered has negative net cash.

B) The empire losing the country, inherits all the negative net cash.


Point "A", it is working cause I inherited that debt and I'm okay with this.
Point "B" it IS NOT working, as the loser country DID NOT inherited any kind of debt.


Hope I could expressed myself better. Let me know if you require further information.

Thanks again,
Nico

GM?

Almost a real month in a row and no solution.

Please, dont keep copy/pasting game docs and focus on the bug I am mentioning.

Its point B from my previous post.

Thanks.

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9 days and counting .
6 weeks if I count the first email I sent you.

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GM?

Almost a real month in a row and no solution.

Please, dont keep copy/pasting game docs and focus on the bug I am mentioning.

Its point B from my previous post.

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Awaiting reply.
Thanks

Nicolas I admire your persistence lol

Thanks Ben. It seems I am being ignored lately.


Any GM around to analyze this absurd bug properly instead of copy/paste some text?

Thanks.

Hello?

It would be nice to address this bug, reply to my messages here and FIX THIS ABSURD EXPLOIT.

Waiting your reply GM.

there is no bug being exploited here

Have you tried insecticide on those bugs

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Still waiting answer to this Andy. I sent you new emails too....

Hello?

Forgot to update everyone.

GM says there is no bug and the documentation is updated... It's clearly either an absurd bug or an obsolete documentation but apparently they dont want to fix it.

So... whoever wanna still play the war game, keep on mind this bug exists and it's being exploited from some players.