Case # 00001 The NLUO LUICC Vs King Hezekiah II

Crafty, I offer you the hand of peace and hope to see you one day involved in the NLUO government.

The system isn't a farce but a work in progress and we need active members to make the system work more effectively.

I find it hard to stomach the defectors now being Justices. There's your farce CC.

Great ruling Lee. Shave, your sims are on borrowed time.

I support Secretary Lord Lee's Decision being that he is also a judge on the LUICC bench. Nobody showed up. Judge Shave if you would have showed up last night I could expect you to have an opinion, but you did not show up your honor. So, Lee's decision should not be challenged.

On another note. President Wendy, we miss you in the gov. Much love. Sis.

ok, I didnt show up because of my previous statement, which you obviously didnt read.

I would certainly suggest one would need to be at the trial to cast a vote. the point in a trial is to hear the case, I do not believe we can count A verdict of someone who is not present. also the fact that Judge Gaddafi has announced a verdict prior to the actual trial constitutes a Biased and unfair situation. thus I move for the Barring of Judge Gadaffi from this Particular case. Please understand, I am in no way suggesting that Hezz is Guilty of anything, just saying that we are attempting to give legitimacy to the NLUO court system, and we can not do so by holding a trial in a manner that is not fair. I would also move that both Lord Lee and Myself be omitted from this trial as well. as I pressed the charges originally, and Lee is his best friend and will no doubt bring a Biased position to the floor. I recommend that a temporary and impartial Judge be found for this particular trial that will both hear all the evidence and rule from an unbiased position.

His Honer President Shave of the Polarian Republics.


It wasn't a fair trial. and of course you agree with it Hezz, you were the one being tried. but you cant have a judge that is your best friend, and the other judge the one who pressed the charges. again Hezz, I am trying to help you bring some legitimacy to this thing. and Wendy, you quit.. no one Yanked your Chain. so stay out of it.

I am about as impartial as you can get. I support an end to this trial. The NLUO needs to move on from this.

agreed!!

Agreed!

Lee, I accept your hand of peace. You didn't need to offer it though as I have/had not declared or threatened violence to any part of the NLUO.

Well, Mr. Crafty, that is very gracious of you. Look how after that short WW, nations are beginning to peacefully co-exist.

agreed, WE HAVE PLANS, NULO HAS MOVED ON, can anyone guess whats Gonna be coming NEXT?

Free candy?

WW? When was there a WW?

Dang it!!! Day late and a dollar short I guess! Grrrr... I man Sssssss

Morning all, hope everybody is well and has a good day wherever you are in the world.

I am about as impartial as you can get. I support an end to this trial. The NLUO needs to move on from this.


Aries, its not a matter of moving on from this trial, as I actually agree with you on that part. its about how it is done. if things are done unfairly, and leaders can just come on here and dictate how things are to be done without going through do process, then what is the point? there is no point in having, or being a part of a court system that does not adhere to any set of rules. if you win or lose a trial based on who you know, rather then the facts, then there is nothing democratic about it. If Hezz still has the ability to appoint his buddies to high positions, and they have no rules restraining them, then it is still nothing more then a polished dictatorship. that is the point Guys. Hezz, you recently said that the court is to keep leadership in check. well, thats what I am doing. I have no desire to see you prosecuted at this time. but what I do want to see is Honest and real reforms take place in this system. especially in its checks and balances. you were the one that stated you wanted to continue this trial. now, I am all for letting this case be dismissed, on grounds that there was an active war going on , and a dictatorial government in power that has since been defeated. im cool with that. but not to turn right back around and see the very same regime and system set back up. now, we need you to make good on your promises Hezz, lets see some real change here. lets get some legislation put in place that all parties are bound by.If we have a court system, then there needs to be rules of conduct and laws to abide by. lets see a real election take place. where all are equal. all empires represent 1 vote. something Hezz that isnt rigged to keep you or anyone else in power. real reform Hezz, not just a show. come on, lets do this right this time. I applaud your efforts thus far, but we are far from done.

I understand your concern Judge Shave. There are rules that should be followed. What I will do is I will set up legislation to reform the rules of the LUICC because I was already going to set up legislation to change the NLUO Oath. So, I will add this to that proposal. The Secretary of Justice is suppose to hold the Judges in check. If all parties do their jobs, then honestly, I don't believe there is any need for reform. But, since some don't do their jobs, I will set up reform legislation.

I would like a chance to look at your legilation if you dont mind Hezz, and maybe send you some ideas, via mail to help you out in this, I am actually very good at this kind of thing. I personally wrote the Constitution we adhere to in The Unique on KB.

Shave, my position might differ from yours in one respect. I believe there is a need for less rules to abide by, checks and balances, and procedure in the NLUO to meet the new focus of the organization.

The goal is to be inclusive to all governments and federations of LU and to allow them to feel they have a forum to voice ideas and cooperatively contribute to game play and fun on the world of LU. It is also a place for new players to learn the game and to find our community and feel they are a part of the best world of Simcountry.

I feel the current pile of rules can be uninviting. The numerous positions available and the current motivations to wield power as an end of itself can create unneeded divisions between us.

I understand the recent past of executive orders for preparation for war or war itself and treason trials etc. I think the NLUO can put these things behind and become something much more for LU.

problem with that aries, is that without the regulations, all the positions are pointless, and only serve to contradict the very thing you just stated about every one having a voice.

he goal is to be inclusive to all governments and federations of LU and to allow them to feel they have a forum to voice ideas and cooperatively contribute to game play and fun on the world of LU

the fact of the matter is The NLUO doesnt provide that at all, these forums right here do that. that is there purpose. the purpose of the NLUO is a governing body.

NLUO as a governing body? What does that mean? I still get the feeling of the NLUO being something dark and sinister when I hear it being referred to in that way.

What is your vision of what role is appropriate for the NLUO on the world of LU?

Me thinks Shave has caught Hezzieitus.

President Shave (Hydra Senate) The Polarian Republic
Associate Justice of the LUICC, Member of the Hydra Senate Federation, Federation Congress: Centura Donna-Great Salman Seat, Law of Identity Common Market, Common Market Congress: Centura Donna-Great Salman Seat

Here are all of your credentials.

I apologize for not show up. Gaddafi had some stuff going on. Hezekiah, you know what I'm talking about. I went with him to help him with his situation.

no I was referring to what Hezz created it for, not saying that I agree with it.

Herod, why did you schedule this for that day then=? I am not going to post about this anymore. I am done with it.