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TNA/CIS/SOL Cease-Fire Proposal (Golden Rainbow)

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Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)
20 Dec 2008 22:07 Link
12 hours went quickly.
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Wendy (Golden Rainbow)
20 Dec 2008 22:08 Link
LOL I haven't started yet
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John R
20 Dec 2008 22:12 Link
I would like it if you could define "in game actions" to me.

To me, in game actions do not include written language such as:
- "Tom Baker you can kiss my ***"
Elaborated: ***** = moran = moron. Hint or suggestion towards direct insult doesn't mask intention. The mere observation that the sentence could not be rewritten without the insult, whether implicit or explicit is bad.

- Poopthaigh, Broke Messiah

Or to start generalizing the thing:
- Sensationalist messages.


In game actions would seem to have a lot more... action than talking. But that's only my interpretation.

I did not precesily say I was going to ban you, but to clarify I will sharpen my attitude towards you and others in two weeks. What exactly I will do or begin depends on how this "collective behaviour" will evolve.

This isn't an ultimatum, this is a warning and it's particulary directed at you, simply because of chance. And also, because you you are the one beating the sticks.

Do you beleive what is happening now would continue if you were more complecent? Gone? Silent?
You may see it has a way resolve a problem from its root.

But you are correct, you shouldn't be the only warned. But like I said, you were warned because of chance - when the chance arrives, others will be warned - and one must begin somewhere.


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Its terrible that I am the one being threatened with a ban when most if not all of my responses that could be deemed offensive are almost always in response to some over the top comment by someone that you have failed to warn LG in the same way you have done with me. I keep it down, but when one goes on the attack at me, I respond in kind, where am I wrong? Same is the case in IRC, you freely let ameche BITCH CUNT BLA BLA and NEVER ONCE threaten him with a ban on IRC or forum, but I need to change my ways. Why is this more one sided than not? I am wondering?<!-/Quote-!>


This sort of reasoning of the past justifies the present and if he can, I can too is false.
None cannot be bounded by the mistakes of the pasts to correct the present.
Justice is independent of what others do. If I kill someone, would that mean everyone can?

Regarding IRC, I do not recall banning you or Ameche. I do remember kicking you because of nick stealing. However, I do recall setting the channel +m once, effectively stopping most of the members from speaking. After that, X became uncooperative. But I preferred to +m instead of +b to avoid... this. To avoid hurting someone emotionally and point fingers.


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This is a game that we all paid for. Opinions are expressed as needed. I have for one not provoked any of the nasty language on this forum, but I have responded to it. Thats BS str8 up LG. Do what you want as I know you will. But if they provoke me I will respond, but if you need to ban anyone make sure that its not only me. Because I certainly have NOT been the cause of the "Offensive material" but sure have been a healthy dose of reality. No matter who you are or how long you play no one has to take anyone elses crap without facing it themselves. This is cause and effect. Simple. They get all pissy because i wont let them rule like Gods in their imaginary worlds. But my money is and was as green as anyone elses who plays.<!-/Quote-!>


Right, right... But, again:
This sort of reasoning of the past justifies the present and if he can, I can too is false.
None cannot be bounded by the mistakes of the pasts to correct the present.
Justice is independent of what others do. If I kill someone, would that mean everyone can?

And indirectly or not, you are the cause. Things weren't not even this bad before you began.

If it feels of any confort to you, mission accomplished.


You lure them in when:
1. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11200.html&lm=1229617977
2. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11576.html&lm=1229791383
3. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11200.html&lm=1229617977
4. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/10743.html&lm=1224823864

Care to state the purpose of those threads and justify when you don't run the risk of involving a new member into this.


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Because you double standards are so transparent that it reeks to the high heavens. I officially don't give a ****.<!-/Quote-!>


I wish to know what are my standards and what makes them double.

If you think others see you as the source of all evil... why is that?

By the way, if you really want to know what makes you and Hezekiah alike is the inability of understanding futility.
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Capone (Kebir Blue)
20 Dec 2008 22:52 Link
So I will take that as a final rejection of peace? Ok, suit yourself.
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Kevin Henry (Little Upsilon)
21 Dec 2008 18:48 Link
I may regret this, but...

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And indirectly or not, you are the cause. Things weren't not even this bad before you began.<!-/Quote-!>



That's a overly simplistic statement. Sure Wendy seeks out conflict, but maybe she wouldn't if she wasn't contently provoked and her behavior consistently reinforced.

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But like I said, you were warned because of chance - when the chance arrives, others will be warned - and one must begin somewhere. <!-/Quote-!>



When the chance arrives? That implies that Wendy is the only one engaging in inappropriate posts and chat at the moment. Really? Really?

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Capone
21 Dec 2008 19:11 Link
REALLY KEVIN...REALLY?

All I have to say is she starts her trolling, I fight back. She didn't belong in that thread to begin with, and she only did it to cause problems.

I like you Kevin, think you're an OK guy, but how can you sit there and blame others with what you have seen. All she does is CONSTANTLY troll dude. She makes the conflict, we don't. As far as provacation, you're wrong. You would see if you opened your eyes the way she treats people. With no respect and utter disdain.

All apologies, but you're way off base.
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Barney Rubble (Little Upsilon)
21 Dec 2008 19:16 Link
Were all goof balls, right Kev? This is probably true....lol.

Buts its fun!

You still have fun in this game correct?
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
21 Dec 2008 19:53 Link
Thx Kevin . . but let me not place another rift in another fed by having you guys politely disagree. Fact is I am having fun, I had no idea that people would start cryin like this. I like LG alot, and I take his warnings seriously, but i just think hes wrong. I know plenty will be split down the middle, but i prefer to keep it just ME and LDI on game or forum. Ameche is another matter as no matter how many times I provoke him he won't come out of his shell and just fight a bit with me.

Barney yes I am having fun, war is war it proly isnt ever going to be that much fun but it is what it is. War.
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John R
21 Dec 2008 22:57 Link
Wendy has a computer, internet access and fingers; and, as far as I'm aware, is capable of complex speech. She can speak for herself.

If you believe I'm on the wrong, Wendy, correct me. I trust it will be a difficult endeavour.
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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
22 Dec 2008 02:49 Link
"To control one's self is to control one's life."

We should all take a hint and see where self-control can take us.

:-)