Recent Declarations - SNA and Valde (Little Upsilon)

no Barney we all seen him driving around. anyway guys pwned soon. :P

seemed to me like sheep was the guy online who jumped to aid quickly and then with everyone declaring on him it was only in his best interest to be prepared to fight being totaly outnumbered and wat not...its not like he actualy fired or did i miss something?

If i started airdropping units into a country, then peace was declared i would certainly make sure they had no existing orders to start painting still. It's either stupidity or ... well just a lack of common sense :P

I was present for a brief time in the SNA meeting, due to an error on the part of the person inviting people, who thought i was still a member of SNA.

I can vouch that PS was present AND actively chatting while cfballer, as well as other players were quite clearly and vocally saying to do nothing. In fact, I recall PS voicing his intention to drop SFs and paint (one reason I checked L3's countries), and it seemed to me this was the reason various SNA members kept reiterating to not do anything.

Backtracking and double talk won't help anything except making you look worse.

Does anyone else who was present remember this as well?

OMG what a cluster bomb.


Sheep, I am not sure why you would prompt me declare (on whom LDI/Valde?)


I don't know what the heck is going on, but I will say that all these decs, coupled with recent movements and a rocky past with myself and LDI, has got me very on edge.

LDI "seems" non aggressive towards me atm. Jason quickly stated a willingness to fight. Seeing as HE is the one on my borders, I am unsure of what to do Sheep.

What I won't do for certain is have another war rooted in any kind of malicious intent or out of game rivalry that stems from chat or past episodes.

Because. . . . all that was some BS. Ameche left the game(which despite our differences am not all too happy about), I don't even go to irc after their BS ban. It all got way out of hand, its the past. I have scaled back gameplay time, and continue to lay low a bit.

What I will do is declare on any aggressive nations who threaten me or anyone I consider a friendly. Everyone is drawing lines in the sand. Here's mine; "While there is no bad blood between myself and Valde/CIS/LDI, I will side with SNA and involve myself ONLY if I am asked to. And from what I am reading they wish to stand down. I haven't talked to Priest in a long while actually, but I owe him my support. He has helped me maintain in other era's of the game. Everyone has picked their sides even if they haven't said so.

I think LDI knew which side I would be on should anything "really" happen. I still have not gotten a promise from Sam several posts ago. I assume that means I will be attacked sooner or later, if not later than sooner. I have been told by two members of Valde conflicting stories surrounding your actions recently against a few inactives or victims(whatever they are) was not directed at me in chat, the other member told me in pm that jason setup directly on my border for the sole purpose of attacking me at a later date.

So the question for me is, "What is it gonna be LDI?" One straight answer will do, I see that Sam and Barney are willing to bypass more Wendy wars, is this the official LDI policy or what.

Official LDI policy is the same as always.

Defend the homeland against any agression.

Sheep is on my border. He gave reason to be kicked out of his Fed. Perfect opportunity to remove a neighbor I did not want or ask for in the first place.

Its not personal I am just a bad neighbor.

Will I attack you? No. I have no reason to do so. Will LDI attack you? No. Once again no reason has been given to do such a thing.

If you have an issue with Jason's actions the proper thing to do is message him. He is a reasonable man and I am sure you can work out something that satisfies everyones security needs.

Thank You for responding Sam. Good then we shall all remain peaceful on Lacerta. I don't have a problem with Jason on my border at all, especially if his intentions aren't set against me.

Sheep, and whatever he does isn't any of my concern that is someone elses problem for now.


I am glad we are all on the same page.

BTW Ela told me you guys were NOT after me, . . What should I do about the one who did say you were after me?

who was it wendy?

@Pathetic Sheep, We have never really met but I feel that if your going to deny the rules of my fed than you are no longer welcome so I must side with Beast on his decision.

Last night I felt that I and Keto let everyone know well enough not to attack Lethal and Valde by any means (including panting) so I got off to do some work. Obviously Sheep completely ignored what I told him multiple times! I'm truly sorry that this happened, but look forward to continued good relations between SNA, Valde, and LDI!

Jason I would love to tell you, but maybe this person felt bad thinking it would be me vs the LDI bunch, they could have been trying to give me a heads up. Or I may have been scammed altogether. Nevertheless, should I discover that this was done intentionally, I will let you know.

For now this one major disaster has been avoided, if I told you Jason and you got upset over it, (or they betrayed you?) and you got upset over it, we would be right back to square one.

I think its better left unsaid for the moment. I don't want to betray any trust or create any rifts.

np wendy.

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No pathetic, just very angry that you had attacked one of my fedmates and ignored all other SNA members when they offered you advice.

I believe you have my numerous replies in your countries for this piece of slander.

Thankyou.

Stuart,
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing you to save face. I think drinking on weekends is normal and in moderation possibly healthy. I forgot some people, Mormons for example, don't drink. If I made anyone believe that you consume ethanol then I apologize.

I obviously did not smell alcohol on Stuart. There were no mispellings that I was aware of and leteres were not invetred. It is most likely that Stuart acts like a belligerent drunk while perfectly snober.

Wendy,
What I meant when I wrote the comment was that you should declare war on my countries. The "too late" would have been when 15 or more countries are at war. The suggestion was not a very serious one. I am not aware of any reason why you or LDI would get involved.

Messiah, Tuco, others,
There was a long series of actions any one of which could reasonably be called "aggressive". Both l3thalserph and I got the impression that our empires were in a unique strategic position relative to each other. L3thalserph obviously had a much larger army on the map. But not in the right positions. The circumstances presented an opportunity to fight a long and interesting war.

L3thalserphs statement to me was that he didn't think my countries were worth taking since his least valuable slaves are worth about as much as my most valuable slaves. He would gain nothing if he exchanged undamaged slaves for mangled ones. I don't know anything about l3thalserphs real world children. Spending time with children is more important than gaming. The reasons didn't really matter, I was looking for a well matched war with someone who could and would put in thought and time.

I don't point out L3thalserphs war declarations and in game maneuvers in order to point fingers and say "he started it". I claim that a reasonable person who understands simcountry would conclude that L3thalserph was preparing for a war. There is no reason for any federation to prevent its members from having voluntary interaction with other people. This is a gaming website so some playing should be tolerated.

If you butt into other peoples business you should not complain about having to deal with it. Stuart has legitimate reasons to complain because he had to resolve the same issue multiple times. The issue was frivolous and could have been resolved in seconds by other people. IMO neither Stuart nor L3thalserph should be harassed because of decisions LDI made. If Wendy declares war on my empire and then decides to have children instead, Stuart should not be forced to negotiate. This should be common sense.