The Law of LU (Little Upsilon)

First I recognize Wendy for the idea that started this. Thank you Wendy.

We the Presidents of LU accept these basic truths as the as before unwritten Law of LU.

1. Do not be an asshat.

2. Do not hostile bid. Do not nationalize without advance warning.

3. Do not annoy others in game or on the forums.

4. Its all about respek yo. Give respek and you shall receive respek from others.

5. This is a game. It's not real. Act accordingly.

6. No player has the right to direct the actions of any other player. Each player reserves the right to enact a multitude of consequences for said actions but accepts the basic right to play the game as a sovereign nation without interference.

7. Build a proper defense. If you need help seek the advice of an established Federation for assistance. War is an integral part of the game and as such "Be Prepared".

8. We agree to establish a econ only thread. Presidents who sign this thread are acknowledged to be neutral players who wish to play econ only game. As such they are forbidden to actively engage in military operations, belong to non-econ federations, invade other countries, or assist in wars in any fashion. This applies empire wide. Following these rules will offer the protection of the community at large in case of attack on a declared econ player. Players should name their countries accordingly so as to eliminate any confusion on this matter.

9. Any player has the right to petition the forums in the event of conflict. This will allow the community as a whole to offer advice, offer help, and put conflict in a more equitable light.

This is a work in progress. Please feel free to discuss and offer suggestions .

I think 1 is too vague and covered sufficiently in 2, 4, 5 (maybe) and 6. Although I appreciate the straightforwardness of such a rule, I think something unifying like: 'Do not be intentionally offensive'. Which is still so vague that I move to strike 1 altogether.

2 has my agreement.

3 is again vague, but the sentiment is just. I suggest something like: 'Do not repeatedly perform annoying actions in game or in the forums'. But still, 'annoying' is too subjective.

4 should definately be rewritten. It is really more of a tip as is and should be covered in a statement like 3.

5 has my agreement.

6 has my firm agreement.

7 has my agreement.

8 interests me. Would it be possible to build an empire through war and then declare as an 'econ only'? Or would I have to acquire countries only through peaceful means (buyouts etc). The former is open to abuse and the latter is surely uncommon. Do I misunderstand?

9 has my general agreement. It seems to be implicating a judiciary of sorts, which would be hard to administer fairly.

Overall I think a constitution like this is a valid concept.

Interesting idea, Sam. The other points aside, I'd like to offer my support for #8.

I support 1-3, 5 and 6 the rest meh.

No on 8, unless they are prepared to defend themselves already. Meaning they have a sufficient air defense, batteries to fully cover their cities, and some means to fight back, be it a small fighter, bomber, or LBCM force.

This is not much to ask, and I would feel much better throwing my assets on the line if the person I was defending at least had something to blunt their attacker's spear.


7 & 8 should be a bundle deal. Both or neither.

The Law of LU, of all worlds alike and Simcountry is as follows:

Respekt yo.

And then there's my occasional supra-will and all that. But as it has no need to be systematic, it doesn't count.

The rest does not exist.

I always knew you were flewis.

If I was playing econ only I would be scared to put my name on the target list. Starting the thread is a good idea though.

I was also LH, as you can imagine.

As it has been about a year since LH last spammed anything here:

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U Pig's.. Will Fall, To The Waste side in time. Give it six month or Year or more of the on going Campain effort of the S.C UnderWorld.... Your Nation will fall your allie may be your new enemies an all of your efforts will go in vain... In time of long despair of your time in Simcountry u may just vanish an move on... But I Will Remain Alive in Simcountry an in S.C UnderWorld.... For i am the Simcountry UnderWorld God. But with the on growing efforts an numbers to over throw u all. If not ill do on my own. ''To bring u all down'' One at time of higher Simcountry Monacry level players to my feet.. An set my joly ass on Your Federation's... Up Date To Point ive done Just that... The PPW an SFO is No More, Nexst targit AF Federation Ive seen player vashish'' In the later part of 2007. An seen PPW Divided an into New Federation's. An Now SFO has fallen .. Ive come to the upper surface i achieve accepted in PPW an SFO. An Player was vanish of wrong doing ''me'' rember zappa in 2007.. Now in 2008 is my on going effert to achieve my strive Strength of Power to take down federation or higher monarch player. An i will see u pig's fall im going back to the S.C UnderWorld for 6 month I Wlll see u pig's fall..... The SFO Fell within AF Federation ''Nexst''

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A little pearl of history. I could have sworn I had saved pretty much all of his threads before deleting them... Guess I deleted those as well later on. Idiocy reaches critical mass easily.

Oh, Hezekiah...

It would be simpler to refine the Law into


Its all about Respek yo. Give Respek and you will receive respek from others.


The econ only idea would not involve how you acquire your countries only be binding after you sign the thread.

Once done the player would not be allowed to belong to a non econ Fed, attack other countries, or assist others in fighting. There would be no limits on defense and a strong air defense if nothing else would be encouraged.

I for one would be willing to smack down anyone who attacked a declared econ only player.

The only law are game rules.

Why is that? Because its a game. Trying to enforce any other rules beyond game rules is arrogance of power.

I think Tuco has been at the Nietzsche again.

Tuco come back to irc. plz

Screw this... I am quitting this game.

I've heard that song before. I want proof!

Ahh...a little celebratory music is in order I believe.

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Barney suggested Free Trade Zones and then LDI went and killed a few hundred CEO corps in a small preventative war....It could happen to anyone...


Proof? Well I promise not to kill anyone who declares as an econ player and follows the guidelines...I will also kick the unholy shit out of anyone who does...Other than that I don't see what you need....

I have restarted Government as the Fed of anyone who wishes to defend declared economic players. As before a non aligned Federation of players from all Feds. Message me at Rheims for an invitation.

i wrote this to the GM in an E-mail and posted it in the forum under General. When it's original is deleted a hope it will be reserected here:
you cock suckers are why ive decideed to let this shit run itself and not really give a fuck if it works or not.
You Cocksuckers are closing my Stratigic Corps one buy one.. these were Corps that were Old by Game standards over 3-4 monthes old fully upgraded and they NEVER had been in so much financail trouble that they were in danger of closing.
Most i checked on daily and you ASSHOLES still managed to close them ..
the ones in my countries i checked on every 2 days.
and you don't have the GODDAMN desensey to respond to a Fucking E-Mail saying you have a GodDamn Problem..
so FUCK you and this Game
Close the GodDamn account if you want i don't fucking care.
Your Fucking Game changes have really cost you MANY fucking Players and Funds.
however you want to Fucking Lie and Say you doing better than you ever have .. your a GODDAMN liar. because you have lost another PAYING fucking customer due to your Stupid shit.
With this said i'm posting this in the forums and ...............
FUCK YOU

yo Grayson don't post stuff like that in this thread.

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These make a lovely sequence of replies. Although, if I switch the last two...

Structures without formal game support are fated to fail. Several reasons. tuco points out the beginning of the biggest one.

Both Hezzie's countries on LU are saying "active in the last month". Does that mean he did not open any country pages, only logged in and looked at the forums?

yes

Thx for the recognition Sam. Excuse my silence on this matter.

The incompetence of Verizon is appalling to say the least.

The bumbling fewls managed to cross my phone and intyernet accounts with another local customer, leaving me in the dark. At last it is resolved. I am now in Florida atm, and it may become permamnent. Real Estate in NJ is sickly high, despite the economic downturn. Florida (SouthWest FL) is a ghost town! Everything is dirt cheap. I see High Profits in my "house flipping" future.

I am back to the game, alot has transpired since, and I am happy to see all the wolves getting along once again.

Again, Thx Sam for recognizing an idea that has some potential to do some good, and throwing your SC weight behind it.

And I thought you would hate me forever. LuLz

Anywayz, if you all agree or wanna make it happen, I am in. For defence and for fun. I for one am all for this kind of cooperation..

For those who need convincing . . . " A hard head makes a sore arse. Tread carefully. LDI is no joke. I just find a casual fight fun. Click the wrong button and a demonstaration is most likely in order.

Community rulez!

Glad to be back and missed the game and you all.

"Real Estate in NJ is sickly high, despite the economic downturn." One of the very reasons I left NJ 10yrs ago...that and the car insurance was such that you needed a 2nd job to drive a car. Guess nothing changes there.

NJ = F. U. pay me!

Excuse my french