VS/CIS merger (Little Upsilon)

Hello LU.

As you all know, CIS has become something of a world power over the last few months, and it is with a heavy heart that I announce the following.

CIS has agreed to merge with Valde Subsidium and our branches will now be known as Tempus Fugit CIS ***** and so on.

I have found it increasingly hard to run such a large federation and juggle it with RL and my own countries. After an exhaustative search, I could not find anyone who was willing to take over the reigns, so the branch leaders have voted to merge with VS.

To our enemies; This is not a surrender, just a re-organisation, so don't think your off the hook just yet. It just means that you have the whole of Valde on your case to now lol!!!

To our allies: Any agreement will be fully honoured.

To our friends; Thankyou for being there for us. We appreciate it and will do so in the future.

And last but certainly not least.......

To our members; Guys, what can I say. You are all brilliant. CIS is here to stay, but under the VS banner now. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the time anymore. You have all helped put us where we are on the world map now, and you will continue to do as much in the VS confederacy. You are all respected members of your designated branches, and I appreciate all you have done for us.

This merger will create the largest federation on LU. This merger will help to bring peace and prosperity to LU. This merger will bring new life to both feds.

This has been on the cards for some time. It was either SNA or VS, but most branch leaders voted for VS. The 3 that disagreed have joined SNA but their branches remain.

Thankyou LU - you have been good friends/enemies!!!!!

Peace and Profits to you all!!!

I would like to note that this was not the result of the Great Gummy Bear War of 2360.

As I guess recently appointed recruitment officer of Valde Subsidium and its branches, would like to extend a warm hand in friendship and thank you all for this recent merger. If any of you have any questions you can message me at Empire of Chaos and I will do my best to answer you.

With Regards,
Dragoon

I am pleased to authorise this merger between the two federations Valde Subsidium and CIS, two very different entities; old and new, respected and upcoming. Qualities that no doubt will compliment each other.

I believe that this can be mutually beneficial - Valde gaining a boost of new and promising players, CIS the protection and experience of our members.

As Stuart said, this will create the largest federation on Little Upsilon - all CIS branches with exception to that of Keith are involved. The ideology of Valde remains unchanged - Responsibility and Moderation, and we will ensure as the most powerful organisation on the planet, we will always do what is best for it as a whole.

The logistical intricacies of the merge are being worked on as we speak, but in no way will it leave either federation harder to manage, less true to it's principles and easier to attack, i can assure you that.

More details will be coming soon.

http://rapidshare.com/files/181997304/Organisation.xls



Dubhthaigh.

Welcome New Family Members!!!!

I would like to welcome all of the CIS members who agreed with the merger and will from now on be an integral part of Valde.

I know some of you for a very long time now. I've helped some learn some aspects of the game, or provided some help and guidance in some form or the other or simply made you company.

I believe no one else but Stuart and I know what was the impact I had in CIS's formation. It was a small contribution, but it was well placed.

When Stuart was a young player, he asked membership to Valde, but it was refused. It was more because of Valde being full and getting drag to an occasional conflict than by anyother reason. But I messaged him back considering joining or making a new federation. That's when he got involved and formed CIS with Loki and Danzig some time later.


To those who are new or don't know, Valde Subsidium doesn't possess a charter. There's a reason: there are always unforeseeable situations and I trust my fedmates to do the right thing. And when Valde was created, and again when Valde grew last year, I left this clear:
We should all be responsible and moderate our own actions. Meaning we care about our fedmates, but none of us drags or forces the other to do this or that.

I don't know certain members of CIS, but I would like to meet them. You can find me on IRC or on MSN, or even post on the fed's forum: http://z6.invisionfree.com/SCFed/index.php?act=idx.
It would be nice if you were to introduce to eachother.


This is a welcome merger, in the sense we will join some old friends and meet some new friends. And, hopefully, make this a better game for all of us.

Laguna

I'm very excited about the new opportunities in VS, and believe this to be an excellent move on Stu and Dubs part. I'm very excited about what the future will bring

Josias

I commend Stuart on a wise decision to protect his members with a better shield than himself. That was very unselfish move. Congrats Stuart, I see now you have more than your own interests in mind.

As a Seven Nation Army leader I would like to congratulate both CIS and Valde Subsidium on their merger.

Seven Nation Army has enjoyed a very positive and friendly relationship with both federations. We are looking forward to continuing friendly diplomacy with this new entity.

I request that Dub/Stuart inform Priest, EO or myself of who we should contact when conducting formal diplomacy.

It now appears that Little Upsilon is left with two 'super' federations.

Seven Nation Army is committed to diplomacy and maintaining a positive relationship with our friends in Valde Subsidium.

Congratulations!

Best Regards,
Okstate Guy
Seven Nation Army

For the same reason we have no charter, we have no formal diplomatic relations.

We cannot offer you more than our word. And if our word is hollow, then so are our texts.

We already have a Gentleman's Agreement with SNA.

Laguna,
Chairman of Valde Subsidium.

Thankyou everyone for your kind words, especially LG and Wendy.

LG has helped me a lot with my countries and empire, and has had a massive influence on how I have managed my countries, and I look forward to working whith him in the future along with other respected Valde members.

Wendy, it wasn't because I couldn't offer protection to my members. I think that I have done pretty well since taking over. But it has taken its toll on me. For 5 months I have been logging in and on average I have around 50 messages a day which I reply to, then I have to update and run our game website which I kept very active, and all that on top of maintaining diplomatic relations with other federations and running my own empire. The game just wasn't fun for me anymore, so that was my main decision to beinging CIS to an end was based on.

Considering that I had only been playing the game for 3 RL months when I took over leadership of the federation, I don't think I have done too bad. For that, I have many people to thank so here goes. LG, Dub, KH, Sam, Jason, Barney, Dizzy, TP, Dirt, Austia, Wendy who have all helped in different aspects, and of course, El Cruz, Loki, Danzig, Josias who have all shown their support for me and continue to do so.

This isnt the end for CIS. It's just that we are now under the Valde banner. The CIS name will continue to live in our branch names, but at the same time our loyalty is now to Valde.

okstate guy, although our fed leader is unable to offer you and fed wide official diplomatic relations, I can vouch for his integrity. He is one of the few players on here who I would trust my account details to, and has always been truthful and fair with myself. However, the agreement which we signed with your federation before this merger will be fully honoured, but to bring us in line with VS policy, i'm afraid that I will not be able to re-new it but again, I will then offer you my word that you will not be attacked by the members which I brought to VS.

I hope that in writing this, I have cleared up and rumours or misconceptions as to why this merger has happenend.

Thankyou for your time.

awww shucks stuey!!!!!

Now that we have come to conclusion. Let it be known that CIS members previously acquired are NOT exempt to the "1000T of assets on the wall campaign."

5T Down 995T to go. But this doesn't have to be. . . .

Despite a most genuine effort to broker a cease fire by Stuart, Myself, and Laguna... Dubby, in his most selfish and egotistical form, intervened with the sole intent of breaking the whole process down.

He succeeded. I would take that as evidence that he in fact doesn't care for CIS members economies or their well being. Just when I thought Stuart was a bad leader . . . along came a "dubby" . . er . . spider.

There are two exceptions that I am applying to my own campaign. Jeffboy, whom I consider a great diplomat, and good guy all around, he has not let in game stuff fall over to rl world convo. And Josias as well. He has been more than understanding, and I don't wish any ill-will to either of these two.

Despite this breakdown of talks, my offer still stands. I am willing, to halt now and forevermore actions against CIS former members, IF i recieve a Permanent Non Aggression Pact in Forum from VS seeing as this is where CIS members are to go. Binding to all parties involved indefinitely. I also agreed to derreg my c3s on CD as soon as we sign this agreement. That was at Dubs request, but after I agreed he went on some crap about an apology, Kissin his arse and telling him how he's the greatest, and WTF eva. So here we are. Policies have not and will not change until a deal is brokered along these very reasonable lines.

Knowing how self centered this false messiah can be, I have prepared for this situation to come about. I have setup a temporary federation as a shelter to escape attacks, even to honor Stuarts departure and his hard work he has put into CIS.

CIS Omega, the final Branch. You may enter this federation as a temporary shelter from attacks until some deal is worked out or just in case it isn't. I will say now that I DO NOT wish to Lord over CIS members,I have my own federation. I would like to relinquish the Chairmanship upon conclusion to the conflict to a former member of CIS. To hold a good work intact and to avoid letting CIS Die out at the hands of a war or a false messiah. Join or not Its your choice, may it go well with you. You can stay in solidarity and have your own identity or you can stay in Valde, and still be subject to war. This merger changes nothing.

I ask all interested members to come to the peace table, and urge an end to this so we can all get on to making GC. I hope you can get your leaders to agree quickly to peace because my patience for Rogue Valde Members attacking me is nearing an end. And as Dub so kindly stated, I could never Dream of taking any of his slaves. But I sure can make an impact on his membership. This is not a threat but rather an incentive to move into the peace arena. I too enjoy making money. I hope we can begin to make it together.

In one hand we have peace . . .

In the other we have Death and Destruction . . .

Choose peace . . . and Live

The High Profitess has Spoken. . . .

Thankyou for the rubbish, Wendy. I will wait for IRC logs when Laguna gets online, but shall disprove your accusations now.

I entered the peace talks and offered you three terms:
A: You apologise to a list of players you have insulted
B: You Promise to conduct yourself amicably and properly in game
C: You Promise to conduct yourself amicably and properly on the forums

You refused these fair terms easily, why? Because you were planning to break your suggested treaty all along.

After you quietened down from your ranting and admissions of Multiple Personality Disorder, i in fact told Stuart he could still ask for peace between his CIS branch of Valde and you, without terms, he declined.

Yes it is true i refused peace with no terms, because every treaty you have entered into you have broken - you declarations on CIS earlier this week. What use is a treaty when one party cannot be trusted and openly wishes to break it when the situation is more in their favour?

I will not be bound by a treaty of unconditional ceasefire whilst you continue to attack innocent players who find it hard to defend themselves - Phatz and Q.

Furthermore, i pledge to wholeheartedly protect any country against Wendy, our new brothers in Valde, or any innocent player she declares upon. The fact she asked for peace is a sign of her true weakness - she has nothing to attack with in game, thus she must resort to stupid posts like this which undermine fair and patient players. She even asked a federation to attack a barely defended slave of mine on FB, which i have been trying to sell.

You can choose to join CIS omega if you wish, insanity that it would be. But you will NOT be protected from threats like you are in Valde, you will NOT be a part of the most respected and loyal federation on Little Upsilon, and you will NOT receive mercy when Wendy drags you into another hopeless war.

Best Wishes, Dubhthaigh.

IRC log of discussion - sorry its messy, but its pure and unaltered

###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# To be frank Wendy, at the moment i see any agreement with you to be fruitless - at every given oppurtunity you have renounced your treaties.
#00(15:12:21) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# owly's having dirty thoughts
#00(15:12:23) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# the thumb
#00(15:12:24) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# jkjk
#00(15:12:30) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# lmao
#00(15:12:31) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# OMG
#00(15:12:32) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# A. Why should we believe you have changed for the beter?
#00(15:12:34) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# I is innocent
#00(15:12:45) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# B Why should we believe you will honour this agreement?
#00(15:12:52) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# this isn't and will NOT become a Q & A session
#00(15:13:01) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# you can agree or not
#00(15:13:03) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# why not?
#00(15:13:09) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# I have a question
#00(15:13:12) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# Ok no agreement
#13(15:13:15) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo# # has a couple too
#00(15:13:15) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Why are we here?
#00(15:13:20) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#Laguna#02#|# It always goes the wrong way. Like now.
#00(15:13:22) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# Valde will not be associated with you on any amiable terms.
#00(15:13:30) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# LG this is what I meant by inviting dub, would be inviting a complete breakdown
#00(15:13:36) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# hey dub...
#00(15:13:42) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# Until you demonstrate to become a proactive member of the community
#00(15:13:43) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# and good
#00(15:13:44) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Rub a dub dub
#00(15:13:48) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# if that how you feel
#00(15:13:48) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Dub's in a tub
#00(15:13:48) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# lol.
#00(15:13:58) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# hes in my tub
#00(15:14:01) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# all soapy
#00(15:14:02) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# oooh
#00(15:14:06) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# rowr
#00(15:14:06) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# I always figured
#00(15:14:07) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# I will not agree to a farce of a peace that you enjoyed with CIS before.
#00(15:14:09) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# actually i agree with wendy. negotiations were going well until dub jumped in. dub = not best foreign affairs person
#00(15:14:09) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# CIS that are in Valde are not exempt from action by me
#00(15:14:15) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# until this agreement is signed
#00(15:14:21) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# ok wendy
#00(15:14:24) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# ebut dub is still awesome guy
#00(15:14:24) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# thats fine
#00(15:14:25) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# no
#00(15:14:28) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# iki, no offense but you have no idea what is going on in game.
#00(15:14:29) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# I dont give two shits what you do dub
#00(15:14:31) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# we will respond accordingly
#00(15:14:33) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# but stuart is better at foreign affaits
#00(15:14:36) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# you ain't stioppin me by any means
#00(15:14:36) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# actually her behavior has led many to think like dub
#00(15:14:40) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# you spit on kindness
#00(15:14:42) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# i dont think its a bad reaction
#00(15:14:45) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# and it spits abck
#00(15:14:45) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# My friend decided he wanted to play SimCountry
#00(15:14:52) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# I should show him a transcript of this chat
#00(15:14:58) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# lol
#00(15:14:59) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#Laguna#02#|# Now this is more like Simcountry politics on the works.
#00(15:15:15) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# This is nothing compared to Manny diplomacy
#00(15:15:42) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#Laguna#02#|# I thought about Manny today.
#00(15:15:43) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# lol
#00(15:15:49) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# i did too
#00(15:15:54) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# right when i was on the can
#00(15:15:58) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# lmao
#00(15:16:03) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# takin a fat......
#00(15:16:04) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Ameche saw a log that kinda looked like Manny
#00(15:16:05) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# Iki, is it good politics to agree a treaty with someone who has betrayed every one they ever signed, who has consistantly proved herself untrustworthy and who's name would tarnish the federation? I would say my politics was the most realistic.
#00(15:16:06) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#Laguna#02#|# I was wondering if I actually declared war on him, and then I recalled he gave up even before that
#00(15:16:07) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# manny
#00(15:16:16) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Yeah Lg
#00(15:16:22) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# My terms are:
#00(15:16:28) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# We were what, a week away from pushing the button and he left
#00(15:16:35) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# i know ameche. but atm isnt a negotiation. is 1..2...3...4...5 people who , to me, sound like its about the moment where they all jump on wendy and expect her to respond to all of you equally. easier if fewer people are in negotiations to avoid distractions. for instance. make a ~wendy|valde~ channel so no one can interupt this negotiation.. (i is just saying/suggesting is all)
#00(15:16:56) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# dub: dont get me wrong. thus far i am in agreement with you
#00(15:17:18) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# I think you all should go to Chipotle and get some burritos and chips
#00(15:17:23) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# A. You give a formal apology to a list of players i come up with
#00(15:17:25) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# I would feel the same way (because i have been put into similar situation)
#00(15:17:25) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# B. You promise to conduct yourself amiably and respectfully on the forum
#00(15:17:27) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# C. You promise to conduct yourself peacefully and honourably on LU
#00(15:17:28) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Ease the tensions
#00(15:17:32) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# ok dub provwe example of any treaty i have not honored?
#00(15:17:34) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# About the Chipotle iki?
#00(15:17:36) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|#
#00(15:17:38) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# you cant and you wont
#00(15:17:39) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# lmaop
#00(15:17:44) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# too spicy
#00(15:17:45) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# You declared on Stuart 2 days ago.
#00(15:17:48) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# wendy - i will give you one. you decd on CIS
#00(15:17:54) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# You can get un-spicy stuff
#00(15:17:59) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# when have I ever agreed on this
#00(15:18:00) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# and buritos go through me like......
#00(15:18:06) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# In the forum post
#00(15:18:07) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# not to ?
#00(15:18:07) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# pico de gallo and the like
#00(15:18:14) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# WHen you agree a treaty between you and CIS.
#00(15:18:19) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# iki
#00(15:18:20) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# ew
#00(15:18:22) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# like a hot knife through butter?
#00(15:18:22) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# pico de gallo is spicy. i tried it. im a freak.
#00(15:18:23) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# :S
#00(15:18:25) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# I will not go into the semantics of past agreements.
#00(15:18:28) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# well if you hadnt astarted SC on King i could have avoided that
#00(15:18:32) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# Well, you poor soul
#00(15:18:33) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# yeah house. thanks.
#00(15:18:34) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#DrHouse#02#|# >.<
#00(15:18:36) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# YOu know my terms, they are reasonable and hte best interests of everyone.
#00(15:18:47) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# Fook you and your term
#00(15:18:57) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# i will return to destrucion
#00(15:18:58) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# What is so hard about those terms?
#00(15:19:01) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# and stay there
#00(15:19:02) # # # #02 ••#12 nick: #02(#12DrHouse#02)#12 is now known as #02(#12Veritas#02)#
#00(15:19:03) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# whats wrong with his terms?
#00(15:19:05) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# Unless you are planning to break the treaty anyway?
#00(15:19:17) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#Laguna#02#|# The easiest uniletaral way to solve this, with the same pratical results is if you people simply don't declare on eachother.
#00(15:19:27) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# Laguna has a poinr
#00(15:19:28) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# write up a non agreesion pact . . .sign it, be done with it and move on
#00(15:19:29) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# a point too
#00(15:19:31) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# i will agree to that LG
#00(15:19:33) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# I have targets right now
#00(15:19:40) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# I will not tie myself to that Laguna, whati f she declares on another innocent player like Q or Phatz?
#00(15:19:44) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# and i dont have time for pussyfooting
#00(15:19:51) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# exactly
#00(15:19:56) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# dub has a point
#00(15:19:59) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Ameche#02#|# :D
#00(15:20:01) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# The moment you come out of protection i will destroy your empire.
#00(15:20:07) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# ^^^
#00(15:20:11) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# How about instead of that...
#00(15:20:19) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# I did it with 5k CM 2 days ago.
#00(15:20:25) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# If anyone attacks someone else, you all have the legal ability to attack that person
#00(15:20:26) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# balh blah
#00(15:20:27) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# his terms seem like...all he expects is everyone to be civil. (b and c terms at least). the reason , i am assuming, is to ensure that if there is any conflict, you are both willng to talk about it and do everything in power to avoid war or conflict escalating
#00(15:20:30) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# destrioy me then
#00(15:20:32) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# But as long as everyone stays at peace...
#00(15:20:35) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# No war.
#00(15:20:38) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# when the heck has that ever saved anyone
#00(15:20:52) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Stuart#02#|# er dub - we did it dude!!!!!
#00(15:20:57) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# you only prolong the inevitable
#00(15:21:08) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# This discussion is no logner productive Wendy.
#00(15:21:15) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# but reality is that its still inevitable
#00(15:21:21) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# if someone doesn't trust you...and you want them to trust you, then one would agree to something simple like ~be amiable, respectful~ etc etc
#00(15:21:29) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# I knew that when you enetered into it dub
#00(15:21:30) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Veritas#02#|# Yes.
#00(15:21:32) #11.# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02@#iki-ryo#02#|# because its a start
#00(15:21:43) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# I kindly asked for you not be included
#00(15:21:46) #11|# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#ShcyzMattiCa#02#|# and for good reason
#00(15:21:47) #11!# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###02#Dubhthaigh#02#|# My terms are fair and better than you deserve.

Wendy - rename the fed and as a token of goodwill I will put a slave into it. I want the chairmanship though so I can rule your ass.

Wendy, CIS is no longer - we are all Valde Subsidium now and this thing you have for CIS needs to stop. That is my offer - take it or leave it. Your choice.

Suggested names for the fed; Stuart Rules!!! or Lets all take a chill pill, or if you want to be more adventerous, lets get drunk and forget it!!!

lol

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Were all in Barney. CIS is now Valde terratory, and we will protect our fedmates as much as possible.

I'll help dub.

Nice one J. Thanks Barney. Here we go - lets pwn Wendys ass!!!!!

BLAH BLAH, move it or lose it. Stuart you are surely ineffectual at leadership.

NON Aggression Pact. Those are my terms. Valde or anyone is no position to negotiate anything. I did not ask for peace Stuart Did. Once again thinking a treaty merger would protect him was st00pid. And Stuart you are barking up the wrong tree.

The Fed Name Stays. It will be a shelter for all who wish not to feel the wrath of ShcyzMattiCa the High Archon, sent to punish and torment the Darkside and rebuke them back to the depths of hell from which they came!!!

You can continue taking my c3s, fact remains, you can slow me down but you WILL NOT STOP me. False Messiah, you are not any worry, I offer what I offer, if you don't accept thats on you . Only you can prevent Forest Fires. The Power IS YOURS!!!!

Rubble & Co. whoever else bring your solutions. . .test your might. Slow and Steady wins the race.

Peace or no Peace

Shelter or not. I hope you all have WP.....

If dub and the rest of VS agree to peace, so will I. Untill then Wendy - keep buying WP.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post Wendy, due to the change in status for CIS, I am hereby asking for a cease fire on all worlds out of respect for Valde members.

Thankyou.


Who asked for peace again. . . ? Certainly not I

I live to die, and then come back multiplied st00pids.

Dub you are the weakling your failures as messiah have proven themselves time and time again. You st00pidity, cost Loki an empire, Hell even Stu thought you had that under control, he let you take lead on that one, what happened. Your bark was loud but your bite wasn't vicious. Loki lost three countries not just one. Sam was helpin, Jason was Helping, Barney was helping. What happened?

What assurances can you give any CIS member that they won't be attacked?? Nothing but your foolish ramblings? Go on let me know. Tell us how you pledged to save even Loki for Stuart, yet failed miserably? Tell us how you plan to stop something that is inevitable?

The cast is still the Same, STU,LDI,And YOU LoooL I fail to see how would this make anything different from yesterday?


And I would have taken all but the main if he didn't sell off. You are not the messiah, you are an antagonist. You broke a really promising chance for peace that once again, your arrogance has forfeited in the future. You can't save anyone UNI BOy. Go write your papers or sumthin.

You seemed against this peace only becuase you fancy Andy Declaring on you on FB, where I don't reside, IS ALL MY FAULT as usual. You are wrong. Now get off your high mule and let normal less ego driven rational folks work this out.

Stuart I love how you get all pepped up for a crowd coming to your rescue. Makes GR all the more interesting. LMAO!

I will not agree to peace until
A: Wendy can be trusted of her word
B: She makes considerable improvements to her game attitude.

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Valde or anyone is no position to negotiate anything<!-/Quote-!>

Yes we are.

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I am not a messiah.

As for assurances? i can guarantee i can take any of oyur countries before you can take somone elses. I average about 10 minutes on yours atm, but im out of practice.

I will not agree to peace until
A: Wendy can be trusted of her word

I can be trusted, however, I do not recognize any negotiations involving you.

B: She makes considerable improvements to her game attitude.

Mind your business, stay out of mine, don't look for trouble. . . and it won't find you. Simple. My attitude is push me. . .and I push back. No harm there.

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Valde or anyone is no position to negotiate anything


Yes we are.

Maybe, but not with me concerning anything, unless I deem you necessary. I did this out of respect for LG, not you. Get over yourself. I still say you are a stain on that good federation, and I am right.

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Dub you are the weakling your failures as messiah


I am not a messiah.

No Duh. Tell me something I don't know.


As for assurances? i can guarantee i can take any of oyur countries before you can take somone elses. I average about 10 minutes on yours atm, but im out of practice.

Enlighten me as to how you failed to take them as I pillaged CIS prized "LU's third largest Army".

Can't . . .Won't

You can take my C3s becuase I offer them. I use them, dump em, and laugh at your vain attempts to stop me, while you pat yourself on the back for knocking down straw houses. I have punished many a country while under direct threat from you. You are ineffective. When you do disable me for awhile, you almost always slip up, and when you slip-. . .. . .I grip. Has been the story for some time now. Wake up and read the papers.

Let me say this for the last time, I ask nothing of the false messiah dubby wubby.

I offer to entertain Stuart's request for peace, hinging on Valde's offer of a non aggression pact very simple, it need not be over complicated.

I ask this of Stuart, Dub, if you need to agree or disagree as to why you don't or won't agree, you need have that speak with Stuart and Or LG not I. I don't even take you seriously anymore. Only a small joke, I'm almost done laughing, but you won't shaddup already.

This is the final offer of peace you will ever get from Valde. Choose your next words carefully.

What do you want? Happy member of society OR
Laughing stock who cannot carry out her threats and has to lie in posts such as the one above to achieve imaginary victories.

1. Apologise meaningfully
2. Stop harrassing other players on the forum
3. Stop harrassing other players in game

Then and only then will Valde have peace with you.