Rage Against the Bully Machine

I think she might have a obsession over you, Jan.

Well she can obsess all she likes. I'm not going anywhere......not this time. Doesn't matter if I play alone or just chat......I will be here. She's run me out of the game numerous times, but this time......I'm sticking to my game. :-)

There are too many good peeps in the game to let one bad apple ruin it. As I said, good always will triumph over evil. I pride myself in being one of the good guys (gal in my case) in this game.

Raises a glass to Simcountry! Long live the game!

Glad to hear you aren't leaving! You shouldn't leave because she wants to start bullying. Good to hear! Cheers!

alright steve, this would be the 4th time i've started from scratch, or worse. last time we bumbed heads, i'd been playing my account for less than a year, and started with more debt than cash.

i'm fully capable of rebuilding everything, in less than a year. i reset, because i don't want to spend that much effort in SC. I'm very happy with my tiny little empire.

no, i think one of the flaws of the SC war game, is the immensity of it. with hundred, and hundreds of units, your talking allot of clicking. and the value of what you can squeeze off in an hour, many players wont ever make that much.

so you have a handful players, such as yourself, that have spent thousands of dollars, and countless hours, over years, to build what they got. they aren't going to be quick to risk it, if they stand to loose to many assets. as i can testify in your behalf.

wouldn't it be nice to just enjoy duking it our with some one, over a 25M country, because its bigger than anything you've got? and not have to spend a year building up for the attack?

the people who are constantly warring, other presidents, shouldn't be at a war level that they could threaten new players. Over simply not being enlightened to SC politics. which can be rather bizzar sometimes.

The easiest way to fix this problem of game 'bullies' is that when you are an aggressor against any president your ENTIRE empire on that world cant have the benefit of war protection. Futhermore, when the war decs go out, you can no longer take assets out of the country at the rate it can be done now.... you can bring them in, but not out as quickly as you can now.

Its all about risk assessment, some of the game 'bullies' will not use their main secured countries to fight because they dont have the 'inner testicular fortitude' to do so. If they were risking their main countries, which to them is what the 25-30M pop country of a newer player to them, then they might reconsider.

my thought, if its important enough for a person to go to this degree to win, and the GM give them a pass, then just let them win. this has been going on for years now, and the GM give it a pass.

this isn't what i want, but this has been going on for years. and the GM doing next to nothing about it. so, some of us, just have to accept the fact, that any one associated with us, will come under fire. and either give up, or practice what you'll tell those formerly enthusiastic newbs, after she's beat them up, for joining your fed.

you wouldn't really be to blame, but at this point, its gone on for so long, and been given a wide enough path, that Wendy, is more of a game feature, than a player. A random enemy that could rear up and attack, for any reason, with little or no warning, while remaining safe behind loopholes the GM are unwilling to change.

seriously, this has happened enough, long enough, that its a Game Feature at this point.

IMO its not about Wendy because the issues discussed here, although they may apply in cases involving her a lil more than others, apply to everybody. If you make it so that the aggressor is actually risking something, then watch the decs from the 'game terrorists' stop!

Very well stated, Serpent.

Well I'm growing weary of it. I may go back to just chatting my way through the game. I see it as pointless really to even try.

Lets not try. Throw in the towel. Raise the white flag. Sorry folks, nothing to see here. Everyone go home (and play Simcountry).

But I don't wanna :'(

To go from mortal to Buddha, you HAVE to put an END to karma, nurture your awareness, and accept what life brings.

Regardless of what we do, our karma has NO hold on US.

As long as KARMA exists, the world changes. There will always be KARMA to be taken care of.

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Thank you, everyone for your constructive input. I have emailed the GMs with your suggestions. I will let you all know what the response is.

Apparently the game Bully has issued war decs AGAIN against some of the newer and less fortunate players in this game. I am curious as to the updates that the GameMaster has in place that was to prohibit or make it costly for this to happen???

I know that Hydra is more than capable to war, but what about Star Froth and King Elias Acorn or any other poor soul in the game who is new or trying to get established???? Apparently the Bully can only defeat players that have played for short periods of time. Bless her heart. *There, there

The Bully Strikes Again! I ask everyone in this community to speak out against such behavior. This player is rude to people in chat. She told Viper yesterday to shut up that she is confused, made said player leave chat.

She is rude to TheWhy who comes in to ask game questions. She bullies players into leaving where they wish to be in the game. She dictates how everyone should play their game. Really,,,,,,,,,,such gall and arrogance.

I am asking everyone to STAND UP against this behavior. Write the Gamemaster that WE WANT CHANGE! Thank you.

aries> hey chao
thechao5> Testing
thechao5> Where's Wendy?
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thechao5 has become available
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thechao5> Anyone?
aries> entrepreneur=wendy
aries> she was looking for you. think is afk atm.
thechao5> Thanks
the_wicked_lady> ty aries
the_wicked_lady> sorry was on the phone
thechao5> Hi, Jan
the_wicked_lady> hello
the_wicked_lady> Aries, who is winning???
aries> bengals!
the_wicked_lady> smiles
the_wicked_lady> cuz of your lucky shirt
thechao5> Ugh, my head
aries> yep
the_wicked_lady> you have a headache, chaotic one?
thechao5> Yep
thechao5> Everything Aries has is lucky
the_wicked_lady> Nico asked me to tell you that he replied
the_wicked_lady> whatever that means
thechao5> I know, I got it
entrepreneur> chao you are star foth?
thewhy has become available
thewhy has left
thechao5> OH sorry
thechao5> Yeah
entrepreneur> interesting I never knew that.
thechao5> I have you on the PM thing?
thechao5> Well, anywho, shall we?
entrepreneur> I think we can discuss this openly, especially since your fedmate, and a victim advocate are present in the room
thechao5> Alright, then
entrepreneur> I'll be quick though I know it was hard for you to get into the chat
thechao5> Thank you for understanding
entrepreneur> You are a member of BME correct?
thechao5> Ambassador TO BME
entrepreneur> One of your nations, your main, is in the federation BME
entrepreneur> let me assure this and this alone is the reason for my agression
thewhy has become available
thechao5> Correct
thechao5> It is in there for communication purposes
entrepreneur> BME, and I have had hostilities, and while taking the appearance of sheep, they are lined against one of my slaves
thewhy> can anyone give me a full overview on stealth bombers?
entrepreneur> try the documentation thewhy
thewhy> i did
entrepreneur> yeah that sux then
thewhy> its not comprehensive
entrepreneur> aries probably will be happy to break it down for you
thewhy> are they part of federation defense
entrepreneur> star, I am going to get to the point becuase I have to leave myself.
thechao5> Yes?
entrepreneur> As long as any of your nations remain in this BME federation, your nation will be targeted. You can of course change this, by removing your countries from these feds.
thechao5> What about for communication purposes?
thechao5> Should I just stick to directly messaging Jan and Nico?
thechao5> Well, alright then
the_wicked_lady> He just joined so he could email, Wendy, he is not actively involved in my federation
entrepreneur> If you do, you will have peace. If you do not, you will find yourself in a most grievous war. And while some may try to prevent the inevitable, I don't want to be a hard case, I hope they can give you the proper course of action
entrepreneur> but my actions and terms are clear for you to have peace
entrepreneur> you can follow in the footsteps of other players who have avoided war by simply coming to terms
thechao5> Alright
entrepreneur> silence jannikins
thewhy> sigh*
the_wicked_lady> you only further demonstrate that you are a game bully
the_wicked_lady> i will let you hang yourself, dear lol
the_wicked_lady> i don't have to say anything
thewhy> entrepreneur we have had some discussion about you in my federation The Union
entrepreneur> on the contrary, this has been an excellent exercise in diplomacy
thewhy> seems your attacking my fedmates "colonies" on LU
entrepreneur> so what about it why
entrepreneur> did you wanna be a hero?
entrepreneur> I can make you famous
the_wicked_lady> i think i'll post this convo in the forum to demonstrate lol
entrepreneur> please do
thewhy> he said you said that we talk shit about you
entrepreneur> there are two cchoices, on the one hand there is war and fighting,
thechao5> That was a misunderstanding
entrepreneur> on the other there is peace and life
entrepreneur> choose life
thewhy> seems i was misinformed... nevermind
entrepreneur> I hope this is easy for you star, I hope you enjoy your many game years of peace
thewhy> continue with your warmongering on LU.... us Patrician White Gianters dont care
entrepreneur> at least until aries and jack come knocking lol
entrepreneur> why as why?
thewhy> ??
entrepreneur> you are speaking from a position of ignorance and fear
thewhy> how so
entrepreneur> but you create a problem where you have none with your shapr tongue
entrepreneur> I have done nothing to you
thewhy> i am creating no problem
thewhy> i agree
entrepreneur> so please, there is no need to be provocative
thewhy> im not trying to be provacative let me buy you a beer
entrepreneur> thanks
thewhy> lol
thechao5> Ardglassian alchohol is dangerously strong
entrepreneur> I will return it to you 10 fold
thewhy> then let me buy you another
the_wicked_lady> so wendy, question
thechao5> I dun think you want some Ardglassian whisky
entrepreneur> no question jannikins, you haven't earned that
the_wicked_lady> what do you achieve by bullying these players who are nowhere near your gaming level?
the_wicked_lady> your arrogance is just a facade, wendy
entrepreneur> I only speak to level headed players interested in developing into the game, not crying and whining and complaining your way to meaningless changes
entrepreneur> are you ready to finish what you started with me jannikins?
the_wicked_lady> aaaaaaaaaaah i will do whatever i have to do to kill players like you in the game, you abuse it
entrepreneur> have you gleaned enough wisdom and insights about the war game from aries yet?
the_wicked_lady> you ruin it
entrepreneur> he is your mentor is he not?
the_wicked_lady> Wendy, it is time that you stop dictating how I play my game
the_wicked_lady> you need to concern yourself with yours
entrepreneur> jannikins... POP QUIZ
thewhy> ive noticed some war level 3 small empires on WG but i have restrained myself from attacking even after my long period of abstinence that has been ongoing since the game began
the_wicked_lady> if i choose to war, i will
thewhy> instead i ask them to be my friend
the_wicked_lady> if i choose not to, i won't
entrepreneur> POP QUIZ
the_wicked_lady> and i'm not interested in your quiz
entrepreneur> can you cry your way out of this thing of ours?
entrepreneur> no, we will finish it
entrepreneur> in this game
entrepreneur> so please stop this
the_wicked_lady> stop what?
entrepreneur> crying
the_wicked_lady> i've done nothing but defend
entrepreneur> its just ugly
the_wicked_lady> i'm not crying, i fully think what you are doing is wrong
the_wicked_lady> you have become everything you said you stood against in the game
entrepreneur> I know, and I want you to do something about it
entrepreneur> in the game
entrepreneur> I am begging you to participate with the rest of us that play the game
the_wicked_lady> what makes you think i'm not playing the game?
the_wicked_lady> oh wait.......i'm not playing YOUR game
entrepreneur> or I yours?
entrepreneur> is that a paradox?
the_wicked_lady> then leave me alone
the_wicked_lady> lol
entrepreneur> you wanted to ask me a question
entrepreneur> I tried to shoo you off but you can't help yourself
the_wicked_lady> i already asked it, but you were too self involved to notice
entrepreneur> I never bothered you
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins, there you can stop now okay
the_wicked_lady> well you play your game, it has no bearing on me and what i do
entrepreneur> don't get to excited
entrepreneur> not good
entrepreneur> calm down
entrepreneur> woooosah!
the_wicked_lady> you can run all my mates off, it's okay
entrepreneur> wooosah!
the_wicked_lady> so have fun, you only waste your energy, you aren't hurting me at all
entrepreneur> I am not running them off, I am giving them a chance to take a step in the right direction
entrepreneur> and they will become stronger as a result
the_wicked_lady> and who says what you think is the right direction?
entrepreneur> not wasting thier time being your human shields
the_wicked_lady> oh i forgot, you CONTROL the game
the_wicked_lady> they aren't my human shields at all lol
entrepreneur> but growing and becoming pillars in the community
entrepreneur> through action and gameplay, not whining and complaining
the_wicked_lady> i've not asked anyone but Aries to annihilate you ha ha ha
the_wicked_lady> oh and jack
entrepreneur> indeed
the_wicked_lady> and Serpent
entrepreneur> how is that going?
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha
the_wicked_lady> it's a joke, wendy
the_wicked_lady> i dun have to ask
entrepreneur> I know, I've been laughing at you all this time
the_wicked_lady> well i'm glad that i can entertain you, cuz you have equally entertained us all
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins
entrepreneur> and then I will entertain myself
the_wicked_lady> well you keep waiting
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha ha
entrepreneur> with the voice of your cries to the game gods
entrepreneur> they feed my simchildren
the_wicked_lady> i think i'll do a real voice clip of my cry next time
the_wicked_lady> put on my best voice
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha ha
entrepreneur> lol
the_wicked_lady> might even manage a sniff and a small gasp
entrepreneur> Okay I have to go, you people have fun. Star, remember our agreement. Please.
thechao5> Can I just put in one thing?
thechao5> Right
entrepreneur> Go aheaad, I am listening
thechao5> Imma have the chair of BME have a slave that'll join in a Union-BME Embassy fed
entrepreneur> you must have misunderstood me
thechao5> You said quit BME, yes?
entrepreneur> yes, no association
the_wicked_lady> i guess that means you can't talk to me any more, cuz Wendy says so
entrepreneur> but that of course is a choice, you can make whichever you like
thechao5> Cut all Union-BME diplomatic ties?
entrepreneur> read between the lines star. Or we'll get to know each other a little better
thechao5> I am quitting BME
entrepreneur> I have to go
the_wicked_lady> good, finally some fresh air
thechao5> I'm just trying to have a line of communication between the Union and BME
entrepreneur> If you need anything star, why just drop me a line at my country
thechao5> I will
thechao5> I'll try and figure something out
the_wicked_lady> star, love, she wants you to have no line of communication with me in the game
entrepreneur> I don't care if you talk
entrepreneur> that isn't my concern
entrepreneur> but federation, tsk, tsk, she asking for you to get in trouble
entrepreneur> and she'll watch me pick you apart and do nothing
the_wicked_lady> you must really fear us, wenders
entrepreneur> not even lift a finger
entrepreneur> who is us?
thechao5> What do you suggest for a diplomatic communication line?
the_wicked_lady> makes me feel so empowered
the_wicked_lady> so i thank you
entrepreneur> have a good night, I have a feeling this meeting is only going to prolong the inevitable
thechao5> I'm trying to avoid conflict
the_wicked_lady> aaaaaaaaaaaah i'm not concerned, Wendy
thechao5> I'm jsut a communication line
the_wicked_lady> i will just further my pleas with the GMs to change this game to deter players like you
thechao5> But anywho, goodnight all
entrepreneur> yawns
entrepreneur> whine away
the_wicked_lady> and trust me, i have the public relations/communications background to be successful
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins
the_wicked_lady> nite!
thewhy> i believe dyna is considered a diplomatic envoy of the union to BME and we dont appreciate you attacking him
entrepreneur> roger that
thewhy> do you feel our unappreciativeness?
thewhy> its quite strong
entrepreneur> hehe
thewhy> and i just got stealth bombers
thewhy has left
thewhy has become available
killson has become available
killson> What's going on guys?
thechao5> Diplomacy never got so low
thechao5> Lol,jk
thechao5> Stuff happened, but I dun have a word for it
thechao5> Perhaps manufunctioning synergy
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aries has left
the_wicked_lady> well i think i've had enough of the game for one night
entrepreneur has left
the_wicked_lady> g'nite everyone

Well, as a member of BME...

I don't exactly know the history of the problems between who and who..

But I do believe there is a peaceful solution somewhere in the mix, and I am interested in finding it. One that allows all parties to enjoy themselves.

One thing for sure is, I don't believe that "in game bullying" is cause for any GM intervention. This is a political game, a strategy game, and most of all a role playing game. If a GM was to step in and halt the natural progression of the forces that guide the game, then we would not have a fair/natural playing environment, and it would not be fun anymore. I'd rather play with risk of running into a bully, or any other risk for that matter, than play a game where there is red tape drawn up everywhere, and it is completely "safe."

That being said, while I see how some might think it is bullying based on the actions that wendy has taken, I do not even think of it as bullying. It is a persistent reminder that there is still diplomacy to work on, and alot of work to do to repair past transgressions.

I for one am ready to take this to the next level, work out the problems, and move on towards peace. (without GM help)

Surf

Not everyone has fun with risk, though.

I want my slaves at risk while my leader country can play the economic game. That way, I can get both sides of this game .

Star...

how you did it. I dont know..

But you missed the whole point..

I get the point, I was just stating my opinion. I just didn't comment on the main point, is that a crime?

Okay, perhaps I am stressing it too far, but I am having players come to me in distress, and I feel obligated to stick up for them.

I will say no more on the topic and just leave it. I have come to the conclusion that a player supposedly has a right to torment and make another player's existence in the game miserable. So I will take under advisement as to whether I wish to pursue being a part of said type game and whether I wish to continue to invest money into it. I still say this is a great game.......used to be a lot of fun, and maybe with me out of the "limelight" things will settle down a bit.

I love you all. I have tried to stand up for the little guy in the game to no avail, and I quite frankly feel defeated. I am going to proceed quietly in the game. I informed the gamemaster that I have said my final opinion on the matter. I leave you all to it.

I will no longer lobby for right or wrong. I'm just gonna play my game til I get bored and move on.

Happy Simcountry!

Wendy is not a bully. She is a diplomatic world leader who is asserting her right as a world leader. She is an Empress in her own right.

lol, and I am a diplomatic world leader asserting my concern as a world member, I am an emperor under MY OWN RIGHT.

I support you Jen! what you are doing is right in my opinion! godspeed!

dont go above wl2? thats not fun..... i think instead of going to the gm to make new obnoxious rules we should work within the existing system known as the Security Council.... people should question their motives for war out of fear of the SC and wider community scrutiny.... if they want to be a lonely rogue state... hey it keeps the game interesting