Secretary General Debate Expansionist King Hezekiah II Vs. Isolationist King Herod VI

This is a post I set up for a debate with King Hezekiah. Consider this your challenge King Hezekiah. Carthage can moderate for us, or we can have LU ask questions and we answer the questions. Please everybody, post your thoughts on how we should proceed, and then let's have the debate on this post.

why can't this be on your internal forum, i guess would be the first question

This kind of proves my first point.

The NLUO has gained a reputation as being aggressive and trying to dominate the planet of LU, it has also been seen though the actions of the current leaders in the government, how do you plan to regain the faith of the presidents of LU.

How do you plan to lower the cloud of hostilities and work toward a better future?

Why can't it be on this forum? Oh it can!

This is actually the LU Forum and you still flame this guy's thread. He isn't even King.

And I'm getting the emails... wow.

shrug,

i asked why this internal discussion, isn't being discussed internally?

i hear that the NLUO has this wonderful internal forum. In fact i've seen posts bragging about how great it is!

why doesn't the NLUO use its own media for its own discussions?

I don't know whether to smack Herod or Choke josias.

I'll smack Herod for ya lol :P

lol

Ok Herod I will play along with your stupid debate.


SuperSoldierRCP Asked: The NLUO has gained a reputation as being aggressive and trying to dominate the planet of LU, it has also been seen though the actions of the current leaders in the government, how do you plan to regain the faith of the presidents of LU. How do you plan to lower the cloud of hostilities and work toward a better future?

I want to say that the propaganda that has been pushed by Orbiter, Crafty, Mizore, Kiss, Jackseptic, Chiwoo, and others has caused the world to think we are an aggressive organization. These people declared war on the NLUO via the SC Forums, and was met with decs. We have always respected the borders, and Presidents of the world. We were never aggressive to start with. We don't claim to rule Little Upsilon. We do have representation available for all regions of the world. If this is what scares nations is the fact that we have the capacity to represent the interests of the world, well I would think that would be a good thing. Not the facts the nations are afraid, but that we have the capacity to represent the interests of the world. That is not to say that if there are nations who do not want to deal with the NLUO in any capacity, they have that right. We will not, as a government try to wipe out nations who do not want to participate. But we will not have nations who do not want to participate trying to dictate what should or should not be done in our government in regards to our policies for LU. I hope that answers you question.

Why ask Why?

Find something to do other than flame Josias. Perhaps I should start sending emails too.

and no that still doesn't answer the question.

you are justifying your right to press buttons. but not explaining why your internal discussions, can't be discussed internally, in your wonderful NLUO website?

because no one uses there site, they hardly use it. :-/

Alyan this is a lie. People have not yet learn how to use the site. People have not taken heed to the call to log in to the NLUO when they log into simcountry. So to say no uses it is a flat out lie.

err...
You just said that no one is logging in and or they don't know how to use it.
( took me what, 10 mins to explore and know how to "use" the site :-/ )
So no, it is not a lie.

Furthermore. This is a government of the world of Little Upsilon. We live on LU not at the government site. The government site is the place to debate policy, political agendas, war, economic agendas etc. We use the SC forum to communicate the things set up in the government to the world of LU. Also there are non government officials who support the world government. Why can't we use whatever media we desire to make a case. Josias, you need to just mind your business.

Yes it is Alyan. it is a lie. The site is used. NO ONE LOGS IN AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I said log into the site when you log into simcountry. No one does that. But the site is used. Quit trying to double talk ALyan. You been hangin around Kiss, Orbiter, and the likes of those individuals to much.

Josias why do you post on the forum? Do you have to answer that? No.

What makes you think anyone needs your permission to use this forum, or explain why they post anything?

He is a paying member of simcountry. If free members like Alyan nobody can post then I don't see how your question requires an answer.

This just proves the point about the general forum. It isn't about what forum is being utilized but more about your inability to dictate what people can or can't do on this forum.

Jonni, Andy, anybody have a problem with it? Then discussion is over. I shouldn't have dignified your nonsense with a response. But better said, you need to find something to do.

And let me quit while I am ahead also before I get another email about the forum. Wow.

Hez, i logged in when i loginto SC. And i stay logged in almost all day. You are the only other i have seen thur and that was once. after i told you in chat that i posted thur. :-/

People don't log into chat when they log into simcountry, and given the atmosphere on the forum, I am not the least bit surprised. People will or won't log onto the NLUO at their discretion. As the NLUO grows, it's site utilization will follow that trend.

King Alyan was a plant like he was on FB. He joined my fed in his last reincarnation as an agent provocateur that tried to start a lot of strife, but played even less. I wouldn't be surprised if he was some real player's version of their 'free' self.

Sweetpea goes there. Lord Lee goes there, Dictator goes there, Stephen ryan goes there,

You do not go there and stay there Alyan because I am logged in 24hrs a day. and when you are logged into simcountry you are not logged into the government site. another lie.

Ah yeah, his last free account was named Falcien, and this one Alyan Locien, and I am sure if I dug up some chat logs we'd find multiple incarnations of this player with the suffix cien added to any number of names. Same MO chatty likes to provoke and play both sides of an issue, and that is proly not an accident. Best to ignore. He is irrelevant.

Whether a player is free or a paying customer shouldn't make a difference, and talking down to free members calling them "nobody" is very derogatory and thus could discourage them from ever becoming paying members or staying with the game. Being a paid member doesn't really entitle you to anything within the game except some game perks. If this were the case, the GMs would not have introduced free play. Therefore, the free play component must be integral to the game or an enticement for free players to eventually become paid members. I think it is in poor taste to call anyone a "nobody" in this game, paid or free or otherwise.

Please stop taking what is meant to be a game and turning it into something personal.

From my standpoint,wherever anyone wants to post is not an issue with me, as I like to see people posting. It is up to the GMs to determine what goes where, and whether something is posted is spam or no or if it is disruptive to the forum.

I just respectfully ask of all players, including myself, that personal, unnecessary derogatory comments cease. It is unacceptable and does not enhance the gaming environment.

Whatever, send another email. I am the furthest thing from wrong in this thread. Furthermore, nobody cares what you have to say. In fact I am intentionally trying to avoid you but you just keep popping your head up wherever I post. All my comments are valid and pertain to the game. Done and never again.