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rep (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2011 04:32 Link
Here is rep's guide to the type of corps we need to be building on LU to pull us out of our funk. What I did was look at the factory utilization chart, compare capacity to demand, then look at the percentage of production. I've made a list of corps that are needed here on LU.

Bear in mind a few things: this list is as of 19 August 2799 LU. It will obviously not include any corps which are being built this month. It also cannot take into account changes in demand. Blah, blah, blah. Disclaimers put in.

I have ignored all government corps, military and related corps, and those corps which sell products only to countries. Those are nice, but will not help our overall supply situation. I also did not include FMU or electric because those are obvious.

The list is alphabetical, with the production % next, then the shortfall even after 100% production. I only included those products which had a severe shortfall (20% or greater demand shortfall at 100% capacity).

Books & News 88% 400M
Bricks 96% 200M
Build Materials 90% 200M
Cement 98% 1B
Chemicals 97% 500M
Computers 82% 80M
Electric Comp. 99% 400M
Glass 85% 46M
High Tech 93% 400M
Household Prod. 83% 1M
Ind. Equipment 76% 200M
Iron 98% 300M
Medical Material 101% 29K
Oil 73% 1.2B
Rubber 91% 50M
Soybeans 83% 3B

As can be seen, there are 8 industries which are running all but flat out (90% or better)which still have shortfalls of significant proportions.

One last disclaimer: this is the opinion of one man, who does not hold an economics degree. Remember also that fully upgraded corps can run at 120+% production, and that there may be countries and CEOs sitting on huge strategic supply waiting for the price to top out before dumping it.

All that said, I still think this is a valid list to consider if you're building new corps. Except med. materials. A little better production or one more corp will top it out. And if you're looking for a short to mid term profit run there are industries which have a huge backlog that didn't make the list due to the potential capacity being greater than demand. Have at it!
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2011 08:29 Link
If you wouldn't mind, could you figure out how many FMU and electric corps LU is short by?
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rep (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2011 08:42 Link
Give me a couple minutes to check the Sept. chart, be right back.
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rep (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2011 09:09 Link
Okay, end of Sept. stats on FMU and electric:

FMU: Of course this is skewed due to the "supply fairy" and the magic dust. But we have a standing shortfall of almost 8M. This month's shortfall was 2.6M. FMU corps are running at 84% of capacity. If they ran full out 100% they could produce 3,451,645 units per month. Sept. demand was 5,533,587 units. Didn't take time to do the math (don't have my calculator handy)but if we increase our production by 2.1M per month we would just meet demand. Which is also skewed because even FMU corps use FMU! I'm going to have to look into this more closely. But at 8M backlog and 2.1M monthly add on to that total I'd say we're in need of a pile of FMU corps.

Electricity has a standing backlog of a tad over 122M, and is running at 87% of capacity. Sept. shortfall was 24.4M. Full capacity would bring in 123,625,000 units per month, Sept. demand was 132,186,130 units. So using the standard 25,000 unit monthly production value we'd need 1000 more corps to meet current demand. To actually eliminate the 122M backlog we'd need to add 2000 corps (producing at 100%) to have the backlog eliminated in roughly 5 months. Of course then we'd be stuck with green line electric after that.
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)
10 Jun 2011 17:05 Link
Where is Daconia when you need her. Her CEOs would have sorted out that electric shortfall in no time at all.

I might add that nuclear power should also be considered when looking at electricity.
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rep (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2011 18:58 Link
I remember Daconia.
I agree about nuclear power. Nov. 2799 LU showed nuclear with a surplus. And it's cheaper than "regular" electric. I've been trying to use my CEO to buy nuke when there's a surplus, but the order never gets filled, and then nuke goes back red.
After I graduate enough tech people my plan is to build a nuke plant in my country. Then I'll probably need a uranium mine to supply it, since uranium is dicey on the world market right now.
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)
11 Jun 2011 00:47 Link
Rep, you never see the nuke power as such because it is automatically turned into electric power. If you look you will see your elec stock go up when you buy nuke power, excellent way of making some money considering price difference, but shhh... this is a vet trick, lol!
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rep (Little Upsilon)
11 Jun 2011 03:03 Link
That's what I figured, and why I've been trying to get my CEO in the game. Guess I'm going to have to "fixed price" ask for market +5, since the order never gets filled with "best price", then nuclear goes red again.

Now, since nuclear is cheaper, when it converts does it convert at nuke price or "regular"? In other words, if I buy nuke and resell it to my corps which price do the corps pay?

Danke schoen.
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rep (Little Upsilon)
11 Jun 2011 03:54 Link
UPDATED:
Mid February update

Soybeans are off the list! Our capacity is now 600M over demand, and our backlog should be clear by the time you read this (projected May-August 2800 LU).

Iron now has a capacity overage of 240M, projected backlog clearance 9-10 game months.

Glass is iffy. Capacity is +100M but is only running at 78% capacity so continues to show a monthly shortfall. Also has a 1.6B backlog.

Apparently Medical Materials had numerous closings or a steep increase in demand, so will go back to solid recommendation there. Monthly shortfall 66M, backlog 644M, full capacity still leaves us short 58M.

Cement showed the largest improvement, capacity going from a 1B shortfal to a 400M shortfall.

HighTech had no change, still a 400M shortage, -921M this month, 5.6B backlog.

Books and News, Electric Components, and Industrial Equipment all slid further into the hole. B&N -900M monthly, 3.2B backlog, capacity -700M. EC -319M,5.7B backlog, -300M capacity. IE -714M,4.9B backlog, -400M cap.

The rest of the industries made some strides, still have room to grow.

That's it for now, have to tour the factories and hand out some goodies to help increase production. :)
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Crafty
12 Jun 2011 20:37 Link
When you buy the nuke power, with CEO or country, the nuke power is what you will pay. Upon delivery it is instantly converted to regular electric power and shows in the CEOs or country's inventory as such. Any further trading of that product will be of regular electric at regular electric prices.
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)
13 Jun 2011 03:09 Link
Okay, just to clarify: if my CEO's corp sells nuclear power on the world market, it is sold as nuclear, and then received as electric?

EDIT: How are we doing for FMUs right now? I must've built 100 new FMU corps over the past few days :P
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rep (Little Upsilon)
13 Jun 2011 05:37 Link
Accordian,

Getting better on just about everything from what I see, it seems to be a matter of ramping up productivity.

Wish I had your cash to build with!

FMU, until there's a major revision, IMO, will be a constant strain. There's been improvement (it actually came off hard red for a month!) but you can still almost double the amount of FMU corps out there before demand is met.

Doesn't help that MY (single, lonesome) FMU corp is stuck in a country w/no president, and even the salary war the 10 CEOs are in isn't helping. We drove all the state corps out of business, and we're at 90% hiring! Grumble, grumble.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)
13 Jun 2011 09:24 Link
Build Hospital corps. Got an order made for four (4) game-years ago waiting to be delivered :P
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Crafty (Golden Rainbow)
13 Jun 2011 14:38 Link
Yes Accordian.

Yes NiAi, more hospital corps please, and it will also help out the struggling pharma industry.

Anyone got light tank and arty ammo they have stock piled and feel like selling while price is high? contact me, will buy immediately.
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rep (Little Upsilon)
13 Jun 2011 19:35 Link
Crafty,

Since I'm downgrading my military, I do have in the neighborhood of 500k light tank ammo I could dispose of. Message me at JulMar on LU if your offer still stands. Going offline soon (7:30pm your time), but it will be available whenever you might need it.
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)
14 Jun 2011 04:26 Link
Crafty, swing me a message at "The Republic of Brutillius". I have some ammo spare (I think) so just let me know how much you want.
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)
14 Jun 2011 20:02 Link
Got my ammo sorted, thankyou Rep, and thanks Accordion for your offer.
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 04:07 Link
K, how are we going for FMUs, rep? And how do you get this data, anyway? :S
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rep
16 Jun 2011 04:20 Link
Accordion, Will check it out and get back to you.

Will you take a look at my post in General under "corp production"? I'm not getting the answers I'm looking for. Thanks, be right back.
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rep (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 05:48 Link
All right Accordion,

End of August report on FMU: Corps are running at only 78% capacity, which led to a 1.8M shortfall for the month.

This increased the backlog to 7.9M, and we are still short 1.1M monthly even at full capacity.

But I can now at least put a tentative number on our needs. My FMU corp has a base monthly production of 805 (producing 983 at it's current level). Using the 805 as a guide we'd need to put roughly 1250 more corps out to meet current demand. What I'd really like to see is for FMU corps NOT use FMUs. Electricity doesn't use electricity, why should an FMU corp have to buy what it has sitting all over?

Because, of course, those 1250 new FMU corps will all have to have FMU corps to supply them, etc.

Oh, and where do I get these numbers? I make them up as I go, of course!:)

Seriously, first I go to the world trade factory utilization chart. It tells you how many corps are producing each product, then after the product name it lists full capacity of the corps. Next it lists the actual monthly production, which gives you the usage % for the month. The demand column is next to last, and the final column gives you the shortage/overage for the month. Then I go to the buy/sell page of world trade and click on the market situation line. This tells you of course what the TOTAL shortage/overage is. Also known is repese as the backlog.

Combining the two (market situation and factory utilization) can help to make informed choices about what corps to build. If you have a deep red, it doesn't always mean it's a good corp to build.

Quit preaching, rep!

Sorry, got carried away. But you DID ask! :P
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 10:09 Link
1250 more corporations? Madre de dios!
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rep (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 18:29 Link
Si.
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Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 21:23 Link
We badly need more corps making the following products:

-Attack Drone Missiles
-Attack Torpedoes
-Cruise Missiles Ship Based
-Heavy Armored Vehicles
-Heavy Artillery
-Heavy Tank Ammunition
-Heavy Tanks
-Land based Cruise
-Mid Ranged Missiles
-Off. Air to Air Missiles
-Precision Bombers
-Precision Bombs
-Seals Ammo

Our whole weapons market is dead and I am trying to win a war here!
Alternatively, you can hook me up with a contract for any of those weapons. Propose to the country "RSFSR".
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rep (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 22:04 Link
Welcome Comrade,

The problem isn't in needing more of those corps, rather it needs (for your purposes) the corps out there to push out more product.

Many of the products you mention, the corps are only producing 40-50% of their capacity.

I suspect that most of these products are produced strictly for the use of the owner, or their Fed/CM.

So one option you may consider would be to look into a Fed or CM. Another would be, if you have a CEO, have him purchase or build the corps you need. If these are options you can't or don't want to do, then your choices are limited, particularly if you're a free player. You can go to the world trade page and put in orders for what you need and wait for them to be filled. Using "immediate order" will get them quicker, at an extra 30-40% markup.

Or you can convince someone to contract some to you.

Good luck, even if you are a communist!:)
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Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)
16 Jun 2011 22:11 Link
I am a full member. I will not join a federation because I am trying to make one.